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Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
October 07 2011 20:30 GMT
#1
Ok so I have this problem. I spilled orange juice on my Black Widow and it died. I then tried to clean it under the buttons but it didn't help. Now it's lying upside down and I'm waiting for an answer about the warranty from Razer. I didn't dare to open the keyboard up, even though I tried, in case of the warranty still being valid. I'm planning on cleaning everything with some Electronic Cleaner from CRC.

Any tips? Will it work? Please help I'm sad :<
Don't expect fast answers though, I'm writing using the on-screen keyboard.
I am Latedi.
DJFaqU
Profile Joined May 2011
466 Posts
October 07 2011 20:38 GMT
#2
Bathe it in pure alcohol.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
October 07 2011 20:38 GMT
#3
i once spilled milk on my keyboard and i couldnt get it to work no matter what i tried. Since then i dont keep drinks by my computer area. This might not help your immediate problem but this is what i do to prevent those problems =\ gl
Nortac
Profile Joined April 2011
United States375 Posts
October 07 2011 20:39 GMT
#4
^^ that's your best bet, but wait til you hear about the warranty before you do anything else.
rezzan
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden329 Posts
October 07 2011 20:42 GMT
#5
sorry if im on your turf with this question,OP but I got a G11 that im using which happends to be pretty dirty, and ive never really cleaned a keyboard, shall it just open it and clean the keys? shall i avoid something from touching water?
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 20:45:03
October 07 2011 20:44 GMT
#6
On October 08 2011 05:38 DJFaqU wrote:
Bathe it in pure alcohol.


Actually this is ok advice. If you voided warranty, which I assume you did. Go to the nearest pharmacy and procure a few bottles of rubbing alcohol.

Bathe the keyboard in the alcohol while continuously hitting all of the keys. When you are done, you can put the keyboard on the top shelf of your fridge to dry it out.

This ONLY works with fully mechanical keys BTW. If someone is reading this and thinks it will help there rubber dome keyboard, I would not suggest it.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 07 2011 20:55 GMT
#7
Yeah, rubber dome you'd end up short some rubber in the domes.
DJFaqU
Profile Joined May 2011
466 Posts
October 07 2011 21:00 GMT
#8
In that case distilled water is an option, although fixing a rubber dome keyboard isn't really worth all the effort I think.
miniwheats
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada187 Posts
October 07 2011 21:00 GMT
#9
On October 08 2011 05:38 DJFaqU wrote:
Bathe it in pure alcohol.


This sounds good. Don't forget to remember how he said pure alcohol. You don't want something that conducts electricity.
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 21:05:18
October 07 2011 21:04 GMT
#10
Its actually not really about electrical conductivity. If you used distilled water plugging the keyboard in because it is wet will break the keyboard because while the water is not conductive, orange juice is.

Alcohol is good because it is way less viscous than water and can break into the tiny spots of a mechanical keyboard in way less time, thats why you push buttons.

You can let it air dry, rubbing alcohol dries quickly.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 07 2011 21:08 GMT
#11
On October 08 2011 06:00 DJFaqU wrote:
In that case distilled water is an option, although fixing a rubber dome keyboard isn't really worth all the effort I think.


Distilled water is never a good idea near anything electronic, even if it's turned off, it causes massive oxidation, corrodes, and evaporates slow as shit.

Mind you, distilled water beats tap water. Water overall is more corrosive than rubbing alcohol for these purposes, just due to the lack of volatility.
Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
October 07 2011 23:22 GMT
#12
Thanks for the tips everyone ^^
I am Latedi.
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
October 08 2011 00:30 GMT
#13
Take off all the keys and put the keyboard in a bin of rice to get out all the moisture. I suggest taking the keys off as it will be easier to get the rice out later. Hope your keyboard will work well. I've never tried pure alcohol or distilled water to fix moisture in the keyboard. Best of luck
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 08 2011 00:46 GMT
#14
On October 08 2011 09:30 GhoSt[shield] wrote:
Take off all the keys and put the keyboard in a bin of rice to get out all the moisture. I suggest taking the keys off as it will be easier to get the rice out later. Hope your keyboard will work well. I've never tried pure alcohol or distilled water to fix moisture in the keyboard. Best of luck


This would probably make it harder to clean, since the rice wouldn't absorb all the sugars and stuff, and would leave dust that could stick to the sugar and prevent contact. It's iffy enough for water, but with water being such a huge risk, the rice can't really be worse. With something sticky, I wouldn't try it.

High purity rubbing alcohol is super cheap, is a good solvent, and evaporates quickly without doing too much damage to most keyboard materials, as long as it isn't soaked. Might be rough on plastic or rubber over extended contact.
eccokk
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany38 Posts
October 08 2011 06:05 GMT
#15
it happend to my filco with a can of red bull, i just cleaned under the keys etc. and send it in saying it did not function any more without adding a reason. got it back after few day doubt they even open it up to check, just plug in see its not working and send new one.
just make sure it is not too obvious you spilled sth on it aka clean the keys and stuff
ander
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada403 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 06:11:49
October 08 2011 06:11 GMT
#16
If you try using the rubbing alcohol, post your results. I'd be really interested to hear how it went. Good luck!
Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
October 08 2011 12:46 GMT
#17
Ok so it's working again, guess it dried. However the switch for "v" is really messed up.

Example: vvvvvv

Yes, that was one key press. It has gotten really slow but I should be able to clean it
I am Latedi.
Tribe__
Profile Joined July 2011
Finland10 Posts
October 08 2011 12:55 GMT
#18
haha happened to me a few days ago, also using a black widow. had it upside down overnight
and it works fine now
Z´all gOOd
Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
October 08 2011 13:02 GMT
#19
Yeah I did the same thing lol. You didn't happen to clean a switch? :p
I am Latedi.
Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
October 08 2011 18:45 GMT
#20
I drenched the switches in CRC electronic cleaner but it didn't really help. My keyboard works fine now except the v, windows and alt key in the lower left corner. I can do fine without the weird keys but not using v is pretty much going to suck when typing or trying to build structures/voidrays in SC2 ._.
I am Latedi.
Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
October 19 2011 22:49 GMT
#21
I drenched it in deionized water and now it's worse than before :< Hitting a key might reslt in actually pressing "U57ru" or something like that. I'll let it dry for an additional week or somethign but if it doesn't work by then it's probably dead. Close to pure alcohol wasn't so easy to get here in sweden but maybe I can ressurect the keyboard later. For now I'll buy a new one instead -.-'
I am Latedi.
Dotrar
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia46 Posts
October 20 2011 02:25 GMT
#22
Oh god, this reminds me of the time i was playing sc2 with some friends. i spilt beer on the keyboard mid-match and had to run to my friends house at 2am, drunk, to get another one.

as for my keyboard, i pulled it apart and took it in the shower, works 100% now (after drying for a week ( just to be sure) ).

but i pulled it apart cause i wanted to paint it, i didnt bother with warranty
John Madden
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
American Samoa894 Posts
October 20 2011 02:29 GMT
#23
I shower with my keyboard all the time but seriously I actually do drag it in every so and so for a clean.
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rhmiller907
Profile Joined August 2011
United States118 Posts
October 20 2011 02:32 GMT
#24
On October 08 2011 06:04 Medrea wrote:
Its actually not really about electrical conductivity. If you used distilled water plugging the keyboard in because it is wet will break the keyboard because while the water is not conductive, orange juice is.

Alcohol is good because it is way less viscous than water and can break into the tiny spots of a mechanical keyboard in way less time, thats why you push buttons.

You can let it air dry, rubbing alcohol dries quickly.


Did you really just say that orange juice but not water is a conductor? And yes Iv'e done the alcohol trick before, never with a really nice keyboard but it worked.
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Puph
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 03:14:20
October 20 2011 03:13 GMT
#25
On October 20 2011 11:29 John Madden wrote:
I shower with my keyboard all the time but seriously I actually do drag it in every so and so for a clean.


On October 20 2011 11:25 Dotrar wrote:
Oh god, this reminds me of the time i was playing sc2 with some friends. i spilt beer on the keyboard mid-match and had to run to my friends house at 2am, drunk, to get another one.

as for my keyboard, i pulled it apart and took it in the shower, works 100% now (after drying for a week ( just to be sure) ).

but i pulled it apart cause i wanted to paint it, i didnt bother with warranty


come again? I thought I was weird when I brought my grinder in the shower...

On October 20 2011 11:32 rhmiller907 wrote:
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On October 08 2011 06:04 Medrea wrote:
Its actually not really about electrical conductivity. If you used distilled water plugging the keyboard in because it is wet will break the keyboard because while the water is not conductive, orange juice is.

Alcohol is good because it is way less viscous than water and can break into the tiny spots of a mechanical keyboard in way less time, thats why you push buttons.

You can let it air dry, rubbing alcohol dries quickly.


Did you really just say that orange juice but not water is a conductor? And yes Iv'e done the alcohol trick before, never with a really nice keyboard but it worked.

water and orange juice should both conduct the shit out electricty as far as my recollection of high school goes.
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Molybdenum
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States358 Posts
October 20 2011 05:21 GMT
#26
On October 20 2011 11:32 rhmiller907 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 06:04 Medrea wrote:
Its actually not really about electrical conductivity. If you used distilled water plugging the keyboard in because it is wet will break the keyboard because while the water is not conductive, orange juice is.

Alcohol is good because it is way less viscous than water and can break into the tiny spots of a mechanical keyboard in way less time, thats why you push buttons.

You can let it air dry, rubbing alcohol dries quickly.


Did you really just say that orange juice but not water is a conductor? And yes Iv'e done the alcohol trick before, never with a really nice keyboard but it worked.


Distilled (or more so, deionized) water will not conduct electricity. Orange juice will. Ions are needed to be present for water to conduct electricity, this is not the case in distilled water. Orange juice is full of acids and salts and will easily conduct. The reason that water is thought to be conductive is that tap water and nearly all natural sources contain ions and therefore conduct. Only pure water does not.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
October 20 2011 06:35 GMT
#27
I does conduct electricity, just very very little.
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 06:44:30
October 20 2011 06:44 GMT
#28
On October 20 2011 15:35 gruff wrote:
I does conduct electricity, just very very little.



WHAT???????????? ARE YOU STATIC SHOCK?


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Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
October 23 2011 11:11 GMT
#29
The keyboard has dried for an additional 3 days now and is working just fine ^^ Seems like deionized water is the way to go. Thanks for the help everyone, this saves me the trouble of buying a new one.
I am Latedi.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
October 23 2011 12:02 GMT
#30
On October 23 2011 20:11 Latedi wrote:
The keyboard has dried for an additional 3 days now and is working just fine ^^ Seems like deionized water is the way to go. Thanks for the help everyone, this saves me the trouble of buying a new one.


I had this problem with a BlackWidow as well. It stopped working, for a few days, and then it worked fine, but then I later had problems with some keys not working. Razer RMA is pretty good. If it stops working again just e-mail them and say it doesn't work and they'll let you RMA it.
Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
October 23 2011 14:49 GMT
#31
On October 23 2011 21:02 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 20:11 Latedi wrote:
The keyboard has dried for an additional 3 days now and is working just fine ^^ Seems like deionized water is the way to go. Thanks for the help everyone, this saves me the trouble of buying a new one.


I had this problem with a BlackWidow as well. It stopped working, for a few days, and then it worked fine, but then I later had problems with some keys not working. Razer RMA is pretty good. If it stops working again just e-mail them and say it doesn't work and they'll let you RMA it.


Hmm I did mail them but they didn't seem to happy about it. Is it possible to RMA when I have opened it up etc? It's very noticable haha.
I am Latedi.
Faggatron
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom65 Posts
October 23 2011 15:16 GMT
#32
This has happened to me a few times (im quite retarded with this). I'm usually able to fix it with the following method. (I am assuming that you are using one of those keyboards with loads of rubber things under the keys and multiple plastic sheets stuck together with all the connections on it - dunno what they're called. If not then this doesn't apply probably).

Open up the keyboard. The reason multiple keys get pressed at a time is that when water gets between the plastic sheets, it sticks them down together so some of the connections are always being pressed.
Put all of the rubber under-key things to one side and careful not to lose any.
Take out the plastic sheets with all the connections on it. If there is obvious water between the sheets, get a tissue and shove it between the sheets to soak up the water.
Carefully look for dark patches between the sheets that move when you push them around, these tiny drops of water are enough to stick the sheets together. You must be careful that you get them ALL.
Put keyboard back together (quite a lot of effort to get the rubber things back in place).

If it's a fancy keyboard it might be harder and you have to hope you haven't fucked any of the boards inside.
Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
October 23 2011 15:56 GMT
#33
On October 24 2011 00:16 Faggatron wrote:
This has happened to me a few times (im quite retarded with this). I'm usually able to fix it with the following method. (I am assuming that you are using one of those keyboards with loads of rubber things under the keys and multiple plastic sheets stuck together with all the connections on it - dunno what they're called. If not then this doesn't apply probably).

Open up the keyboard. The reason multiple keys get pressed at a time is that when water gets between the plastic sheets, it sticks them down together so some of the connections are always being pressed.
Put all of the rubber under-key things to one side and careful not to lose any.
Take out the plastic sheets with all the connections on it. If there is obvious water between the sheets, get a tissue and shove it between the sheets to soak up the water.
Carefully look for dark patches between the sheets that move when you push them around, these tiny drops of water are enough to stick the sheets together. You must be careful that you get them ALL.
Put keyboard back together (quite a lot of effort to get the rubber things back in place).

If it's a fancy keyboard it might be harder and you have to hope you haven't fucked any of the boards inside.


Sorry I'm using a mechanical keyboard :p Thanks though.
I am Latedi.
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
October 24 2011 15:50 GMT
#34
If razer dont cover it, there is only one thing that might work: unbuild the keyboard step by step. use destilated water to clean it. wait till ALL is dry and carefully put it back togheter.
If unsure, write down the steps you take to unbuild it.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
ChefStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 18:48:18
November 04 2011 06:35 GMT
#35
On October 24 2011 00:16 Faggatron wrote:
This has happened to me a few times (im quite retarded with this). I'm usually able to fix it with the following method. (I am assuming that you are using one of those keyboards with loads of rubber things under the keys and multiple plastic sheets stuck together with all the connections on it - dunno what they're called. If not then this doesn't apply probably).

Open up the keyboard. The reason multiple keys get pressed at a time is that when water gets between the plastic sheets, it sticks them down together so some of the connections are always being pressed.
Put all of the rubber under-key things to one side and careful not to lose any.
Take out the plastic sheets with all the connections on it. If there is obvious water between the sheets, get a tissue and shove it between the sheets to soak up the water.
Carefully look for dark patches between the sheets that move when you push them around, these tiny drops of water are enough to stick the sheets together. You must be careful that you get them ALL.
Put keyboard back together (quite a lot of effort to get the rubber things back in place).

If it's a fancy keyboard it might be harder and you have to hope you haven't fucked any of the boards inside.


This thread is perfect for me right now, I had sticky keys from a tea I spilt. After cleaning the keyboard a small amount of single keys would be pressing multiple keys ex: pressing s would be sd. I searched for hours on the internet for this information, I came across it, but it sounded a little to advanced rofl, and I dint want to mess with my Lycosa until I was sure the warranty was good, I'm pretty positive its not valid. After letting it dry upside down with a fan under it all night, I will try and perform open surgery tomorrow.

All the keys work, there just adding keys so I think there is still hope. If all fails I will try and assign a single key macro for each bugged key, just a idea, couldn't hurt.

Now I could make new thread about this, but it doesn't really seem needed. If anyone has anything to add, I'm really grateful for the reply.

Edit: Its a miracle lol, the keyboards working perfectly !
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