EPTAbout that special layout, I feel that's something you have to know yourself. You will have to train your hands a little to be able to use it, but there's not much change for your left hand and Starcraft. Personally, I think I would like a keyboard like that.
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
About that special layout, I feel that's something you have to know yourself. You will have to train your hands a little to be able to use it, but there's not much change for your left hand and Starcraft. Personally, I think I would like a keyboard like that. | ||
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phar
United States1080 Posts
If you don't think you would be able to get used to the lack of gaps, go with an 87 key instead. As far as build quality, keycool, hpe, and noppoo 84/87s are all roughly the same quality. Not as good as a QFR, but not bad. Surprisingly sturdy, actually - especially at the price they were originally offered at in China (like $40 or some shit). They do run more expensive outside of Asia, so unless you're dead set on switching to the weird 84 key layout, go with a QFR for an 87 key, don't bother buying keycool/hpe/noppoo (unless you find it for really cheap somehow). Only reason I use a noppoo is because I was physically in China and that's what was available & cheap. | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3434 Posts
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hXc_
179 Posts
Something (tea, cola, idk) has been spilled on my keyboard, when i got to it (I wasn't at home for 2 days) it was still wet. Now couple of keys (N, M and P) are all very hard to press, like the actuation force is twice as much now, and they take 3 seconds to jump back to normal position. Is there any way I can fix this, like washing the switches or changing them? Or I'm fukt and need to buy new one? (cm qf rapid red) | ||
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Honeybadger
United States821 Posts
I don't care if it's clicky or not, cherry or alps, my only criteria are: CHEAP. tenkeyless is preferable. If I have to choose, linear keys are better than clicky/tactile, but I've got experience with every single cherry switch type, so I can work with anything. The cheapest thing I can find right now is the Azio levitron clicker, which uses a clicky alps, and is $50 shipped. Does anyone have experience with this? 70g actuation force sounds like a whole lot, but I could live with any mechanical switch over rubber domes nowadays here's the board http://www.amazon.com/Azio-Levetron-Mechanical-Keyboard-KB528U/dp/B008CXTW42/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t I found a TTesports open box board with compact tenkey design and MX blacks for $57, free shipping with a free shoprunner trial http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823162015R Decided to go for that board. $7 more, MX switches, and I can live with a few scuffs or scratches as long as the keyboard works right. | ||
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ShaPeLesS
Bulgaria87 Posts
Massdrop is having a sale on the Truly Ergonomic Keyboard - https://www.massdrop.com/buy/truly-ergonomic-keyboard?mode=guest_open&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=9/30 - 2013-09-30 10:57 - 1/3 - 15%&utm_campaign=Product Announcement 930 The keyboard has Cherry MX Brown switches and has an ergonomic layout ![[image loading]](https://d2qmzng4l690lq.cloudfront.net/resizer/750x474/r/65TV4A_20130929_145844_649BTZLO5DXVBY8PNF.png) | ||
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mau5mat
Northern Ireland461 Posts
On September 21 2013 18:56 Liquid`Ret wrote: There are so many mechanical keyboards now, how is it ever possible to pick just one without being able to try them all? I love the zowie celeratis keyboard very much, but I have never gotten to try all these new ones that are out now on the market compared to 3-4 years ago, if someone knowledgeable could give me a real opinion on what they think is the very best keyboard specifically for starcraft 2 play, I'd love to hear! To specify : A compact keyboard could be benefitial for SC2, because of F keys being very close to the rest of the keyboard, etc, please keep things like that in mind ^^ P.S I'm very happy with the razer blackwidow tournament edition, but I have developed a general interest in keyboards/mice since its so crucial for my profession  Filco/Ducky/Leopold Filco - Majestouch Ducky - Shine 3 Leopold FC700R | ||
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[S9] taeZaKi
50 Posts
Just kidding. They really are good boards, but really, there are many brands that produce good quality. For specifically SC2, there really isn't one that is generally "the best". Some may have extras like a wrist rest, macro keys, media keys, or can be tenkeyless; but overall marketed "gaming" keyboards nowadays have very similar designs that it just comes down to aesthetics, switches, and if you feel you will benefit from any of the extra stuff. I have a Corsair K90 and CMStorm Quickfire TK, myself. They have worked wonders. That said, I am by no means an enthusiast, so you can take this with a grain of salt. | ||
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phar
United States1080 Posts
On September 30 2013 23:47 True_Spike wrote: Did you get used to this "weird" layout? Yes I got used to the weird 84 key layout. But I have 3 of the same keyboard, one for home, and two at work (one for each office). Not sure how well I would have gotten used to it if I kept using normal keyboards at work. | ||
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Firkraag8
Sweden1006 Posts
On October 02 2013 05:39 [S9] taeZaKi wrote: Everyone hop on the overhyped Filco/Ducky/Leopold train! There's a reason that they're hyped up, overhyped? No. | ||
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DJFaqU
466 Posts
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Honeybadger
United States821 Posts
On October 02 2013 03:35 mau5mat wrote: Filco/Ducky/Leopold Filco - Majestouch Ducky - Shine 3 Leopold FC700R MAXkeyboards nighthawk series for a full sizer. thing is just bananas good. As for compact boards, I have never used one, though I'll have my condensed TTesports board soon enough. For me, I've honestly not really found much difference in keyboards once you break past the $100 range though. But if I were to go pro, I'd definitely go with a custom job like I have, where I can have a mixture of switches exactly to my liking (I have a mixture of blacks, reds, and browns) | ||
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Kitai
United States886 Posts
I'm not posting this to try to be some contradictory black sheep in a thread full of mechanical enthusiasts, but rather as a cautionary tale to someone who might spend a good chunk of money on something that isn't actually incredibly better. Try it for yourself first if you can! | ||
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Honeybadger
United States821 Posts
THAT SAID, would I suggest dropping big bucks on your first mech board? No. I did, and realized after dropping $150 that a blackwidow ultimate's cherry Mx blues were the worst keyswitch I could have chosen from a personal standpoint, and no amount of online research was helpful (I did a shitload and couldn't have learned about the tactile inaccuracy of the switch's reset point or the grating nature of the clicking at night) I just got another mech board with blacks for $51 shipped, so if you're on the fence, I would absolutely suggest you try a mech board, but make sure your first one is as cheap as you can get, and absolutely don't spend over $80. If you're really hard up, the azio levitron clicker is $50 shipped and uses alps clicky switches, pretty close to an MX blue, and there's also the TTesports knucker plunger, which is "almost" a mechanical switch, for like $35, If you're downright destitute. That said, I'd drop the $15 on a real mechanical switch for the levitron, or look around for an open box deal on a board with MX switches and get a stonking deal on one. Trust me, a mech board is the best thing you can do for yourself, and simply twiddling with one at a tech store is USELESS for anything beyond deciding what kind of keyswitch you like better. Give a mech board an hour of your time and you'll see the light. It took me about an hour to really understand how incredible mechanical switches are. This really isn't keyboard snobbery , there are some very cheap options out there that will improve your computer and gaming experience dramatically. | ||
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Firkraag8
Sweden1006 Posts
On October 02 2013 21:14 DJFaqU wrote: Good job reading the rest of his post. I did, and the just kidding had a but to it. The three doesn't get bunched up for no reason it's that their more popular models are above most others. Obviously at a premium but hey. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
On October 03 2013 16:34 Kitai wrote: The Best Buy near me has a Logitech G710 and Razer Black Widow Ultimate on display, and this thread inspired me to try them out. They were pretty nice to type on, but it didn't really feel like some epic life-changing experience over typing on my current G15 rubber dome as a lot of posters here seemed to indicate it would. I think I'll probably switch to mechanical if this thing ever goes belly up because they were certainly enjoyable and I know they have fantastic durability, but honestly, typing on the G15 feels pretty nice and accurate too (especially compared to my work keyboards). I'm not posting this to try to be some contradictory black sheep in a thread full of mechanical enthusiasts, but rather as a cautionary tale to someone who might spend a good chunk of money on something that isn't actually incredibly better. Try it for yourself first if you can! I can assure you, once you have had it for a longer period of time and got used to it, there WILL be a major difference in typing. However, if you don't think it's worth the money then simply don't spend the money on it but rather on something else, especially if you are happy with your current one. | ||
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
On October 04 2013 03:56 Doublemint wrote: I can assure you, once you have had it for a longer period of time and got used to it, there WILL be a major difference in typing. However, if you don't think it's worth the money then simply don't spend the money on it but rather on something else, especially if you are happy with your current one. His opinion is valid. I've been a mechanical keyboard enthusiast for more than a year now, but I've shared the same opinions as he had to others in this thread. The only thing that a mechanical switches has over rubber domes are just the switches. They just feel better to type on and are more fun. I find little to no difference in my daily life or gaming between the two. Sure some may argue it's easier to press mechanical switches, and that's true, but to say that rubber domes are worse I think is just far too exaggerated. It's inconceivable to say mechanical keyboards are better in this aspect, especially when people have been using rubber domes for so long (i.e. the Qsen DT 35). My typing speed is just the same with my brown/blue/black switches than when I use my Dell membrane keyboard. | ||
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DjRetro
Chile309 Posts
![[image loading]](http://vvcap.net/db/AB8h3pGTJHknsWx6pRvi.png) THis is my second mechanical keyboard, i really love the red switch. | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
So far I know that I mostly want full size keyboard (but that's not super required) with Cherry brown switches - as they seem to be the perfect landing zone for new users. From my research I have these three candidates: Das Keyboard - Model S Ultimate, Cooler Master Storm Quick Fire Pro, Cooler Master Storm Trigger. Any ideas beside these three? Opinions? I just want some additional feedback before I order anything. Thanks in advance ;] | ||
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Lu_e
United States95 Posts
On October 01 2013 03:42 hXc_ wrote: I have a problem: Something (tea, cola, idk) has been spilled on my keyboard, when i got to it (I wasn't at home for 2 days) it was still wet. Now couple of keys (N, M and P) are all very hard to press, like the actuation force is twice as much now, and they take 3 seconds to jump back to normal position. Is there any way I can fix this, like washing the switches or changing them? Or I'm fukt and need to buy new one? (cm qf rapid red) Time to; a. solder new switches b. buy a new keyboard c. isopropyl alcohol bath, +not using for 5-7 days to be sure its fully dry, +chance of it still not working fully, or worse i'd prob pick A | ||
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