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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:46 derpface wrote: They use it cause they are sponsored to use them but if you like noise it will do you good. Illusion uses the Tournament Edition, which is a tenkeyless with Browns. It also doesn't have the macro keys, so it looks a lot more streamlined. | ||
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On February 16 2013 07:20 TRaFFiC wrote: Hi everyone. I'm in the market for a mechanical keyboard to play Sc2. I'm looking to spend as much as it takes for a good board. This is the board I been using for 2 years. http://www.amazon.com/Maxell-Keyboard-Large-Letters-191045/sim/B003FXM4IA/2 It's cheap with big keys. I like the deep keys and I'm used to bottoming out on them. What kind of switches/keyboard should I go for? I'm thinking to try the Levetron Clicker http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823839014 . You can spend anywhere between $60-$150. Switch wise, just read some guides and decide which would suit you best. Ideally go into a store and try some out. That levetron looks like it could be pretty cheap and nasty, but Ive never heard of it so who knows. If you want a plain full size keyboard and want to buy from newegg then Rosewill is a pretty good choice. Just be nice to the removable cable as people have had issues with it. | ||
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llIH
Norway2144 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:48 Sovano wrote: No they are not. They're close to blues in terms of sound. Although if you mod them with o-rings it dampens the sound quite a bit. I disagree. The blues make way more sound from what I hear. My friend is complaining of my typing from his room when he is sleeping. He does not notice the MX Browns. | ||
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derpface
Sweden925 Posts
On February 16 2013 09:07 Gamegene wrote: Illusion uses the Tournament Edition, which is a tenkeyless with Browns. It also doesn't have the macro keys, so it looks a lot more streamlined. The tournament edition is a tenkeyless with blues. The tournament stealth edition is a tenkeyless with browns. But yeah I like the design much more of the TKL vs full board with macros. Might get the blue version cause of the design and I want to try blues. | ||
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
On February 16 2013 21:05 llIH wrote: I disagree. The blues make way more sound from what I hear. My friend is complaining of my typing from his room when he is sleeping. He does not notice the MX Browns. I won't argue over something trivial such as this, but it does depend on the plating you have; which may affect how loud you bottom out. My brown switches are definitely loud, but not as loud as the blue switches. The main difference between the two in my experience is the blue has clicks and the browns do not. | ||
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Eskiya23
Netherlands105 Posts
A very pleasant thing is the fornat, its very compact. The tenkeyless version really helps you to center in front of your screen. Otherwise your hand is way off left and your mousehand is almost touching your numpad area. Tenkeyless is great. Another really good point is, they have improved the activation distance. Basically you already press/activate them 2mm in, and 2mm further you bottom out. If you get to type at activation pressure its really really comfortable. If you are a brute and bottom out, It makes way more sound than it usual. All in all I'm fine with the keyboard, might try out some Browns one of these days. Still need to get used to them. | ||
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KDot2
United States1213 Posts
its coming monday ... its my first topre but I dont have ridiculous expectations ... although I do hope it is nicer than my filco with browns I wont be shocked if it is not ... mainly I am hoping it might cause a little less strain over time on my hand and fingers( I heard it might) my filco doesnt really either but when I have to use them for about 8 hours a day at work any little bit helps ( also who knows how much starcraft after work ) so just looking to see what I should expect ? also will I notice a difference due to the PBT caps ? they are very appealing on the eye IMO but I have never used them to type before | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
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MistSC2
Sweden583 Posts
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llIH
Norway2144 Posts
On February 17 2013 15:39 TRaFFiC wrote: I just bought the steelseries 6g after using a cheap board for 2 years. My first impression is it feels like I just took off my training wheels. All the people who preach that mech boards wont help your skill seem to be wrong... or playing with less than 100 apm. The cherry black keys are amazing. Probably the coolest thing I ever bought in my life. DRG switched from Razer mechanical to DT-35 rubber dome keyboard. Though I think mech keyboards can be better for high apm. | ||
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
On February 18 2013 09:03 llIH wrote: DRG switched from Razer mechanical to DT-35 rubber dome keyboard. Though I think mech keyboards can be better for high apm. Maybe DRG just likes the DT 35 more. Players have their preferences. Although if he's willing to go back to a DT 35, he probably would have been better suited with a no frills MX black keyboard such as the 6gv2. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On February 17 2013 15:39 TRaFFiC wrote: I just bought the steelseries 6g after using a cheap board for 2 years. My first impression is it feels like I just took off my training wheels. All the people who preach that mech boards wont help your skill seem to be wrong... or playing with less than 100 apm. The cherry black keys are amazing. Probably the coolest thing I ever bought in my life. Keyboards don't make you better at the game. I got a mech board and I'm still in the same league. You can give any pro a shitty rubber dome and they'll still stomp face. It's easier to type on, sure. But make you better at the game? Far from it. | ||
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!Frost!
United States14 Posts
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llIH
Norway2144 Posts
On February 18 2013 11:20 Havik_ wrote: Maybe DRG just likes the DT 35 more. Players have their preferences. Although if he's willing to go back to a DT 35, he probably would have been better suited with a no frills MX black keyboard such as the 6gv2. Yes. But it is good to have an example. | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On February 18 2013 11:26 Infernal_dream wrote: Keyboards don't make you better at the game. I got a mech board and I'm still in the same league. You can give any pro a shitty rubber dome and they'll still stomp face. It's easier to type on, sure. But make you better at the game? Far from it. Your post is wrong on so many levels man. Saying a keyboard doesn't make you better at sc2 is like saying you can win the Tour de France with a bike from Walmart. Your league doesn't necessarily determine your skill. You can be improving rapidly and still stay in the same league, especially if it's Masters. You shouldn't expect to go to GM just because of a new keyboard. I'm willing to bet you're not in Masters and your apm is under 100. Even though, having a mech board will help you even more once you break 200 apm. The mech board is far more responsive and accurate. It allows you to tab through your production much more easily when macroing. On my old board, after 1 month my shift key would start to lag because I was constantly adding units into different control groups Ex. shift 1, shift 2, shift 1, shift 3, shift 1, shift 1, shift 1. All of this in a couple seconds. Then tabbing through your production buildings ex. 6 aaaaaaaaaadddd Tab ea, 7 ss, 8, ddvv. My apm has gone up about 10 per game and I only used it for 1 day. My apm went from 70 to 125 on my old board in 5 months before peaking out for the last 3 months. During high apm situations such as 3 base medivac drop style vs protoss I used to hit 160 apm. Now, I break 200 easy and it's much more precise, useful apm. | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On February 18 2013 16:44 TRaFFiC wrote: Your post is wrong on so many levels man. Saying a keyboard doesn't make you better at sc2 is like saying you can win the Tour de France with a bike from Walmart. Your league doesn't necessarily determine your skill. You can be improving rapidly and still stay in the same league, especially if it's Masters. You shouldn't expect to go to GM just because of a new keyboard. I'm willing to bet you're not in Masters and your apm is under 100. Even though, having a mech board will help you even more once you break 200 apm. The mech board is far more responsive and accurate. It allows you to tab through your production much more easily when macroing. On my old board, after 1 month my shift key would start to lag because I was constantly adding units into different control groups Ex. shift 1, shift 2, shift 1, shift 3, shift 1, shift 1, shift 1. All of this in a couple seconds. Then tabbing through your production buildings ex. 6 aaaaaaaaaadddd Tab ea, 7 ss, 8, ddvv. My apm has gone up about 10 per game and I only used it for 1 day. My apm went from 70 to 125 on my old board in 5 months before peaking out for the last 3 months. During high apm situations such as 3 base medivac drop style vs protoss I used to hit 160 apm. Now, I break 200 easy and it's much more precise, useful apm. You have a point, but I feel the bike/Tour de france is a bad analogy. A pro bike vs a walmart bike makes you better 100% in every situation, no context needed. But if you compare a mech board to a DT-35 (both functional keyboards), as long as the player is used to either board they will get virtually exactly the same performance. Comfort and durability are the main reasons you would get a mechanical keyboard. | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On February 18 2013 17:06 Blaec wrote: You have a point, but I feel the bike/Tour de france is a bad analogy. A pro bike vs a walmart bike makes you better 100% in every situation, no context needed. But if you compare a mech board to a DT-35 (both functional keyboards), as long as the player is used to either board they will get virtually exactly the same performance. Comfort and durability are the main reasons you would get a mechanical keyboard. Personally, I haven't used the DT 35 so couldn't say. If MVP and DRG use it, it must be good. The point stands though. A higher quality, more responsive keyboard will help. If not, you're not using it right. | ||
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ALPINA
3791 Posts
On February 18 2013 17:20 TRaFFiC wrote: Personally, I haven't used the DT 35 so couldn't say. If MVP and DRG use it, it must be good. The point stands though. A higher quality, more responsive keyboard will help. If not, you're not using it right. It will help but it's a very minimal help. No one should expect any dramatic skill increase just from keyboard alone. | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On February 18 2013 17:20 TRaFFiC wrote: Personally, I haven't used the DT 35 so couldn't say. If MVP and DRG use it, it must be good. The point stands though. A higher quality, more responsive keyboard will help. If not, you're not using it right. Every Kespa player used it in the pre and early SC2 days. But these days it is probably a majority of players using mechanicals. The standard issue logitech mini optical+DT-35 has given way to logitech g9x+white Leopold FC700. So you are right, there probably is some performance benefit, but it shouldn't be overstated. | ||
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