EPTWhats the deal with dual monitor setups, i heard it was hard / not possible with one card?
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Whats the deal with dual monitor setups, i heard it was hard / not possible with one card? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20335 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/dcN7vxp.png) + Show Spoiler + yes 4770k locked @4.5ghz, i changed windows power plan to run this because i care about 1% change in benchmark performance However, rendering a GAME at multi monitor resolutions (instead of just on primary monitor) is difficult. Load is somewhat proportional to resolution, but also requires more memory bandwidth etc. 2x 1080p is around twice as hard as 1080p and 3x 1080p is about 3x as hard as 1080p, at least theoretically, which makes some sense ;p With two monitors though, the edges of the monitors are right in the middle of your screen, cutting your MMO character or your crosshair or whatever you're looking at in half. It's not very nice to look at, so most people run single 1080p, 1440p, triple 1080p or 4k (in order of difficulty) instead. That gives you either a bigger/higher resolution primary screen, or it gives you a 1080p primary screen with two secondary screens at either side You can have quite a few monitors that you're not gaming on using one card, usually at least two but in some situations you can run like 5 or 6 i think using only one GPU and modern integrated graphics High resolution is kinda radeon's territory right now (triple 1080p, 4k, even 1440p) because their 384/512 bit cards, relative to their competitors, lose less performance when increasing resolution (280/7950, 280x/7970, 290) but next gen cards are (in generational terms) about to hit (maybe not for months or even longer, but we'll have waited almost 3 years by then) + Show Spoiler + also you kinda need nvidia if you want to play wildstar unless drivers are fixed. I don't have much faith for that happening any time soon, it's been almost five months with no word from AMD | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Thanks alot for the info Cyro <3 Also, i will never stray from Nvidia, the dark side does not have cookies. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On August 29 2014 00:15 Capped wrote: I only want a double primary + secondary setup, so one badass new card will suffice. One screen is plenty for gaming, i just want to multitask :D Thanks alot for the info Cyro <3 Also, i will never stray from Nvidia, the dark side does not have cookies. Depending on your processor/MB, you could possibly do more than 2 pretty easily. I think if I tried I could hook up my 2 spare monitors and HDTV to my already dual-head setup with judicious use of the Intel graphics from my CPU. | ||
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Craton
United States17289 Posts
You really can't use it effectively in an MOBA/RTS style game unless you can both lock your cursor to the center screen (programs can do that) and get enough muscle memory to unlearn side scrolling (and use e.g. middle mouse scrolling). Depending on preference you can also apply bezel correction, which basically increases the resolution such that picture under the bezel is hidden, but the gap between monitors looks seamless. This is a blind spot, a little like in a car, but much smaller. Nvidia's NV Surround works better for raw performance, but AMD's crossfire is better in most other regards (e.g. supports more monitors and applies more quickly). Nvidia supports up to 4 monitors (3 spanned + 1). AMD can do at least 6. AMD has support for display hubs, which lets you split a single DisplayPort slot into multiple monitors (3x1440p is about 105% of what DP 1.2 can handle, scaling approximately linearly with pixel count). Nvidia does not support this unless something has very recently changed. As to cards themselves, with one that old you're really just better getting a new single one that will match or beat it's performance. Keep in mind that newer cards also have better drivers & optimization for newer games. I have 5 monitors connected atm so I can probably answer most multi-screen questions you might have. | ||
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JessicaLogan816
United States1 Post
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Is the mouse shit ? (it was cheap) Or, could this be a windows driver issue? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20335 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
http://www.ngs.eu/es/technology/ratones/blue-tick/386/6/ Good recommendations for €15? I have 3 siblings who are asking me to buy them a good mice, I might just give this one to one of them since I was planning on getting them the same mouse anyway. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20335 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
Basically a while ago I took off the displayport cable and heard a "crack". It didn't seem to have hurt anything, plus I was not applying much force at all and yes I do realize that there is a latch thing, I used it properly, I'm no barbarian. Anyhow so after that, the monitor kept working normally until I got back to my PC and the monitor was not working anymore. I thought maybe it was the connector that had been damaged so I bought another displayport with no success. When I try to extend my desktop to this monitor, it says "The display settings could not be saved. Please try a different combination of display". It first happened on Win7, now it's happening also on Win8.1. The GPU is a GTX770 and the two other monitors are running on DVI. My ASUS monitor works perfectly fine with HDMI and DVI, just not displayport. Unfortunately for me I have no displayport devices (input or outputs) to test out. The only test I have is I hooked my Xbox through HDMI with a passive HDMI->DP adapter and the screen of the ASUS monitor comes up black. Though I don't know what those adapters even work for... Monitor's still under warranty. Any ideas? | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
You may also try TeamViewer - it has a module for recording and even converting to different formats and it's free too. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On September 04 2014 10:25 skyR wrote: OBS? Seconded. OBS will do this for you as well if not better than most of what I've seen out there. FRAPS isn't bad, but I think OBS works better. | ||
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Justice569
United States21 Posts
Most games run pretty great on my comp, however sc2 has always been mediocre. I play on lowest settings, and although I get 140-120 fps near the beginning to middle of the game, I get as low as 40 when I have lots of muta ling bane or w/e. I ran some benchmarking software and it seemed to conclude that my cpu is holding back my rig. Does this sound at all plausible? Aside from my cpu and gpu, my mother board and ram are: GA-770T-USB3 12 gb ram DDR3 | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20335 Posts
I ran some benchmarking software and it seemed to conclude that my cpu is holding back my rig. You can't really say that, because being CPU or GPU limited depends on the exact software that's running and what it's doing at the time. That varies A LOT software to software, game to game, graphical settings to graphical settings etc. You could be CPU limited on lower settings, GPU limited on higher settings - or CPU limited on both, GPU limited on both, etc. There's not really such thing as your CPU or GPU holding back other components, it's more about balancing what the individual software needs. With games there will always be a set amount of CPU and GPU load, and while you can change settings to increase/decrease gpu load to balance that somewhat, there will always be a weak link in your hardware, which will likely change often. When playing sc2 with a very weak GPU it's easy to be GPU limited at the early game when there are almost no unit calculations (cpu can prepare 250fps but gpu can only render 150fps, so your gpu is holding you back), but when there are 300 units on the field, the game brings down any CPU with pathfinding, physics etc calculations until it can only prepare etc 30fps. Almost all of that work is done on one core. Your GPU could still render 150fps, so it'd only be at 20% load later in the game, even if it was holding your FPS back earlier. For sc2, you're guaranteed to be CPU limited in the times you are talking about having low FPS, so having a faster CPU would improve that a lot. Double FPS at all times wouldn't be unexpected with something like an i5 4690k@4.5ghz, or even a pentium g3258 (because sc2 doesn't care how many cores you have, as long as you have 2) | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
You can change the date / time but is there any way to stop the clock temporarily when it's set? | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
Any thoughts? Pluses or Minuses to either? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20335 Posts
Double check that though, i'm not certain | ||
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