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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
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Craton
United States17271 Posts
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Craton
United States17271 Posts
For refresher, I pull ~650W from wall with GPUs both at 99% and will probably power one monitor with it, as well. This is the PSU I use http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207020 Having trouble finding info on that UPS having software that I can use for auto-shutdown. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On August 24 2014 07:24 Craton wrote: Is there any reason to think that http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842101419 wouldn't suffice for my desktop? For refresher, I pull ~650W from wall with GPUs both at 99% and will probably power one monitor with it, as well. This is the PSU I use http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207020 Having trouble finding info on that UPS having software that I can use for auto-shutdown. It will of course have software like that. I tried looking around for a better answer for you because I'm pretty interested in this myself for a future UPS. The software that's used on my UPS is terrible. It's a blast from the past, looks like a Windows 95 program. I like to look around for any improvements to this regularly, and it's always a failure.  Apparently, there should be UPS that have a driver that enables the use of what's built into Windows 7 which my UPS can't do. Your Windows would then look like on a laptop in the Control Panel's power management settings, will show battery charge and stuff like that. You could then use the settings over there, could enable some sort of power saving stuff for when it switches from AC to battery power, could configure the action (like shutdown or hibernate) for when battery charge drops to critical, also configure what "critical" means exactly as a percentage. If an UPS could work like that, that just seems sweet to me as it would avoid having to use weird software. I can't find confirmation about which UPS can do this, have a driver that enables Windows to take care of things. That might be because the world is full of idiots that always install the program that comes on the driver CD. | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
oh sweet thanks  | ||
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skyR
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
So then I decided to have a look at this : http://sinhardware.com/images/vrmlist.png Since I was wondering how good the motherboards with low phase counts might be. The problem is I really don't understand what the "+1" is. A virtual inductor? The hell is that? is it good? Otherwise I learned a lot from that article, very nice; | ||
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wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
In case it's needed: Intel i5-3350P 3.10Ghz 8 GB RAM AMD Radeon HD 7570 Windows 8.1 This is what it looks like on the Dell website. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iWm3JRi.png?1) Basically, what I'm asking is do I need to install both of those AMD drivers in the picture, or just that latest one? | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On August 27 2014 11:55 wongfeihung wrote: I have a stock Dell PC with an ATI graphics card (came with the PC) and I haven't updated the video card's drivers in a while. When installing new drivers, do I need to download and install all of the missed drivers? In case it's needed: Intel i5-3350P 3.10Ghz 8 GB RAM AMD Radeon HD 7570 Windows 8.1 This is what it looks like on the Dell website. + Show Spoiler + Basically, what I'm asking is do I need to install both of those AMD drivers in the picture, or just that latest one? Just install the latest AMD drivers and get them from AMD's website, not dell's. You should then be set. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I hadn't used my desktop for a number of months and this week when I've played SC2 on it it's frozen multiple times a day. Doesn't freeze when I do low-intensity stuff like web browsing, etc. Just freezes completely, can't move the cursor or alt tab, drop screen with my name appears for everyone else in game (been playing 2s), happens anywhere from the start of the game to the end of the game. I kept HWmonitor open on my second screen and my CPU temps were only in the 50s while playing on high settings. I've got an OC on my 2600k with it at 4.2GHz with a CM Hyper 212+, never had any problems with it before. Lowered it to 3.9GHz and still same thing. Updated drivers for my HD7950 to the most recent and no change either. Checked Event log and it just says "The KMS Server Service service terminated unexpectedly. It has done this 4 time(s)." and "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly." (had to restart PC on freeze). I don't frequently play any other game so I haven't tested it on anything else really, but I wanted to run a stress test overnight to see if it's just an SC2 problem or maybe heat/memory issue or something. I used Prime95 last time I believe, any reasons to pick something else for my needs? | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
If it's just SC2 then it's surely a software issue. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On August 27 2014 16:08 Grobyc wrote: I'm sure this question has been asked a million times, but I searched for a few minutes and couldn't find anything recent: what's a good program for stress testing my PC? + Show Spoiler + I hadn't used my desktop for a number of months and this week when I've played SC2 on it it's frozen multiple times a day. Doesn't freeze when I do low-intensity stuff like web browsing, etc. Just freezes completely, can't move the cursor or alt tab, drop screen with my name appears for everyone else in game (been playing 2s), happens anywhere from the start of the game to the end of the game. I kept HWmonitor open on my second screen and my CPU temps were only in the 50s while playing on high settings. I've got an OC on my 2600k with it at 4.2GHz with a CM Hyper 212+, never had any problems with it before. Lowered it to 3.9GHz and still same thing. Updated drivers for my HD7950 to the most recent and no change either. Checked Event log and it just says "The KMS Server Service service terminated unexpectedly. It has done this 4 time(s)." and "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly." (had to restart PC on freeze). I don't frequently play any other game so I haven't tested it on anything else really, but I wanted to run a stress test overnight to see if it's just an SC2 problem or maybe heat/memory issue or something. I used Prime95 last time I believe, any reasons to pick something else for my needs? You could use prime95 with custom settings where you set it up to use most of your free RAM. If you use large FFT sizes, the CPU won't get so hot (settings like 1024 min and 4096 max for those two input boxes). If that runs fine overnight, that would be a sign that the CPU and RAM and perhaps board are fine. + Show Spoiler + You could try to search around for problems with the drivers for the various devices on your board. If you for example find out the networking chip's name is Realtek RTL8111E, you'd search for people talking about crashes caused by that RTL8111E and see if they report this getting fixed with some driver version or some setting. Then do the same with whatever controller chip is used for USB 3.0, the audio chip, a second SATA controller the board might have. Search for issues about any other thing you use like a WiFi controller you might have or a sound card. Check for people reporting similar issues with your graphics card and its various driver versions and see if someone found out something. There's a tool in Windows that's called "Driver Verifier". That can be used to rat out badly programmed drivers. You might want to look into how that works and see if you can find a guide you like on how to use it. It can make it so Windows doesn't start, so make sure to follow the part where the guide says to enable System Restore and create a restore point, and make sure to have a backup of your files. | ||
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TheScriptan
Lithuania152 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On August 27 2014 18:44 TheScriptan wrote: If I want to livestream higher resolution, what kind of hardware should I upgrade? (I have i5-4440 and 4GB RAM, no video card, only integrated Intel HD4600) Why can't you do it right now? I mean, for example; you set 1920x1080@24fps@veryfast stream encode. It either works (and you don't have a problem) or it doesn't work to your satisfaction because of some issue (in which case, what's the issue? Game FPS drops to waaaay lower than normal when you start to capture+encode?) Also, what upload bandwidth do you have~ | ||
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TheScriptan
Lithuania152 Posts
On August 27 2014 22:47 Cyro wrote: Why can't you do it right now? I mean, for example; you set 1920x1080@24fps@veryfast stream encode. It either works (and you don't have a problem) or it doesn't work to your satisfaction because of some issue (in which case, what's the issue? Game FPS drops to waaaay lower than normal when you start to capture+encode?) Also, what upload bandwidth do you have~ Game FPS drops lower (For StarCraft) I have a bandwith between 3-6 Mbps. I tried to livestream for 16  (1280x720) and the FPS is 30-40, but when I use 4:3 (1024x768) it is 50-60 FPS. I mean it's kinda obvious, but the main reason I can't livestream with a higher resolution. I optimised my windows 7 + I optimised StarCraft as well. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
and then hit the start recording button on OBS using Game capture, looking back at sc2 to see the % of FPS loss you can compare that way and see how much FPS you have on that place without streaming, while streaming with X settings and while streaming with Y settings. That's the best way to do things in my experience. The percentage of FPS lost is the most important number, because if you just say "i lost 30fps" then at some other place with lower or higher FPS, that might be 10 or 50fps lost (but it's usually about the same % of your regular FPS) That i5 should be capable of at least a few hundred FPS early game (i've seen ~400-700 regularly with overclock), not sure how high it can get with integrated graphics on 1080p low though. Might be best for you to buy a ~gtx750 | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
This 560ti has seen a few years of use by now, I don't know how that plays into using it for SLI with a new card? I would think it would make it impossible / bad but i'm entirely unsure. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On August 28 2014 14:31 Capped wrote: Im planning a GPU upgrade soon. My choices basically are: SLI my current 560ti with a new 560ti or buy a brand spanking new card. This 560ti has seen a few years of use by now, I don't know how that plays into using it for SLI with a new card? I would think it would make it impossible / bad but i'm entirely unsure. The age doesn't really say anything, other than probably higher chances of failure in the future. You'd likely end up buying a used 560ti because they've been outclassed and unavailable for about 2 and a half years. The main problem is the raw performance of those cards Anandtech 560ti vs stock titan - http://anandtech.com/bench/product/858?vs=764 Titan @stock reference is quite weak, 2688 cores @1000mhz. Those numbers are not difficult to beat using a gtx780. we should be getting a ~gtx870 in the near future (well, relative to how long 560ti and current gen has been out..) with similar or higher performance, which is a much more elegant solution and would offer more performance with far greater power efficiency (like 3-4x) vs sli560ti. That means like 1/4 to 1/3 of the heat output too. Single GPU is much "better" than dual because alternate frame rendering with dual GPU's adds a lot of latency even before neccesary queuing to keep frametimes quite even (your input latency when you're playing at 60fps actually feels like you're playing at 30fps when you have two GPU's) - and because of driver issues, dealing with SLI profiles etc. but a single GPU from next gen at like £250 or whatever is quite expensive. Grabbing another used 560ti, ideally if you can handle the higher heat output (case airflow etc) and you have a PSU capable of dealing with them (i think that means a decent ~550w, maybe 650w psu with four pci-e 6-pins) could be cheap and effective, just not as effective | ||
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