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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
November 28 2013 09:18 GMT
#8281
On November 28 2013 17:54 ishida66 wrote:
I'm looking for a new desktop for my girlfriend and she was thinking about buying an iMac, since she uses the pc mainly for drawing and digital media (adobes) and some low demanding games (not fb crap tho).

Like every Mac user, she alledged that it works better with those 3 programs, when compared to PC. SInce on this case the difference is solely the OS, is it still worth paying so much for a lower spec? I tried looking on other forums and mac users are so ridiculously bias that almost nothing can be considered.What you guys think?

Well, if you want OS X, what can you do?

Would you relearn how to accomplish everything you want to do on your PC with Linux to save on paying for a Windows license?
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
ishida66
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan74 Posts
November 28 2013 09:31 GMT
#8282
On November 28 2013 18:18 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 17:54 ishida66 wrote:
I'm looking for a new desktop for my girlfriend and she was thinking about buying an iMac, since she uses the pc mainly for drawing and digital media (adobes) and some low demanding games (not fb crap tho).

Like every Mac user, she alledged that it works better with those 3 programs, when compared to PC. SInce on this case the difference is solely the OS, is it still worth paying so much for a lower spec? I tried looking on other forums and mac users are so ridiculously bias that almost nothing can be considered.What you guys think?

Well, if you want OS X, what can you do?

Would you relearn how to accomplish everything you want to do on your PC with Linux to save on paying for a Windows license?


I'm mostly concerned about budget, she said that it would be no problem at all switching back to windows if the performance was the same. Her main problem would be a few hotkeys and maybe some fonts but nothing to die for.

Thing is, for the same value, the mac has a lower spec, but does the OS makes up for it? I know that osx is fantastic for C++ programming but that's not the case here.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 28 2013 09:40 GMT
#8283
The iMac is an all-in-one... and I really don't think there are many that are on the level of an iMac.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
November 28 2013 10:24 GMT
#8284
On November 28 2013 18:31 ishida66 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 18:18 Ropid wrote:
On November 28 2013 17:54 ishida66 wrote:
I'm looking for a new desktop for my girlfriend and she was thinking about buying an iMac, since she uses the pc mainly for drawing and digital media (adobes) and some low demanding games (not fb crap tho).

Like every Mac user, she alledged that it works better with those 3 programs, when compared to PC. SInce on this case the difference is solely the OS, is it still worth paying so much for a lower spec? I tried looking on other forums and mac users are so ridiculously bias that almost nothing can be considered.What you guys think?

Well, if you want OS X, what can you do?

Would you relearn how to accomplish everything you want to do on your PC with Linux to save on paying for a Windows license?


I'm mostly concerned about budget, she said that it would be no problem at all switching back to windows if the performance was the same. Her main problem would be a few hotkeys and maybe some fonts but nothing to die for.

Thing is, for the same value, the mac has a lower spec, but does the OS makes up for it? I know that osx is fantastic for C++ programming but that's not the case here.

It's suspicious value if you don't really hate working on Windows, I feel. I really don't like that it's without SSD by default despite its price. It seems pretty expensive if you choose a model that's not using the Intel graphics, then take that Fusion Drive upgrade for adding a small SSD. I wouldn't worry about the CPU being weak.

I'm thinking if you want to buy the cheapest iMac model, working on a cheaper Windows PC with added SSD could be more fun if you don't care what's different about the OS X desktop compared to Windows. You could also add a second screen or something else that might be neat, and still stay below the iMac's price.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
November 28 2013 11:10 GMT
#8285
Honestly, I don't see any reason to ever get an iMac anymore unless you 100% NEED OSX. You can get more performance for less money out of a laptop these days.
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
November 28 2013 23:04 GMT
#8286
On November 28 2013 11:18 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 06:45 Jer99 wrote:
Skype is taking an abnormal amount of CPU when I sign into it, at about 50%. After about an hour it goes down to ~1%, any idea why it takes up so much when I first sign in?


It's a pretty terrible program - try clicking on the little house button near the top left and closing the advertisement there, etc.

Microsoft really destroyed it. Ads everywhere that are a little too invasive for me, biased too (they are based somewhat on your personal information, and for example i get dozens of ads for xbox one and none for ps4) as soon as there is a viable, somewhat mainstream alternative, they'll lose a large percentage of their customers IMO. It just goes too far to force multiple ads with video and occasionally audio in a desktop program, update without asking at all to remove features and add stuff that you don't want, pop up stuff over your contacts list every 5 minutes asking you to buy things, and to top it off give all of your data to the NSA or whatever goes on behind the scenes since they centralized it

oops [/rant]


Didn't help, it's still eating a massive amount of my cpu
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
November 29 2013 16:07 GMT
#8287
How long does an LCD conditioning program take to run? It has been running for quite some time now on my monitor, and I'm not sure whether it's supposed to stop automatically after a certain amount of time or I'm supposed to stop it manually.
carmon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States220 Posts
November 29 2013 21:48 GMT
#8288
so I'm having issues with my mic where it captures what I hear, is it more likely that my headset has crossed wires or my sound card's mic jack is fucked up? I have disabled stereo mix disabled.............
Absurd Bunny
Profile Joined June 2011
168 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 01:32:33
November 29 2013 23:38 GMT
#8289
Moved
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 29 2013 23:51 GMT
#8290
Other thread... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426532 ?
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
November 30 2013 12:44 GMT
#8291
Okay so I may appear stupid here, but googling has yielded no answers. My C drive recently crashed and I have gotten a new one. Running BIOS and have selected the cd drive as first priorty (due to having the win7 disk in there), but I keep getting the 'Reboot and select proper boot device' error. The new drive has been recognised, so it is all connected properly. Any suggestions as to what may be causing it to not read the disk?
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
November 30 2013 12:48 GMT
#8292
On November 30 2013 21:44 draverjai wrote:
Okay so I may appear stupid here, but googling has yielded no answers. My C drive recently crashed and I have gotten a new one. Running BIOS and have selected the cd drive as first priorty (due to having the win7 disk in there), but I keep getting the 'Reboot and select proper boot device' error. The new drive has been recognised, so it is all connected properly. Any suggestions as to what may be causing it to not read the disk?

It's just empty. That's the message you get when the BIOS can't find an OS anywhere it looks.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
November 30 2013 12:54 GMT
#8293
So how do I proceed? I have the win 7 disk in the disk drive, but how?
<3
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
November 30 2013 13:01 GMT
#8294
There's some key you can press which will show a menu with the various drives in your computer. It's F12 for me. You then select the optical disc drive in that menu.

You can also go into the BIOS by pressing the Delete key or F1 or something, then see if you can find a similar boot menu somewhere in there. It's on the very last BIOS screen for me where there's also options like "save settings & reboot".
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
December 01 2013 09:53 GMT
#8295
Yeah, it is F11 for me. After various changes and forcing boot from cd rom, I have come to conclude either my Win7 copy is faulty or my cd rom isn't properly connected (which I don't think is actually the problem since the light comes on indicating it has recognized I have inserted a disk). I am probably just going to call in someone smarter than me to help me load Win7 on a memory stick and boot from that.
Alternatively, I have Win XP that I could probably load and upgrade from, but I have never done that before without a complete format.

ANYWAY. Next question. Before my former C drive died, I did a 'back-up and restore' back up. Does anyone know exactly what this backs up? If I go and use it to restore onto a new HDD, what will it have backed up? My settings and program files, my music, etc? In short, will it have backed up EVERYTHING on my old hdd? Conflicting answers from google...
<3
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
December 01 2013 11:09 GMT
#8296
Well, it backed up what you configured it to back up. Pretty sure you choose what it does.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Eriksen
Profile Joined December 2012
Micronesia720 Posts
December 01 2013 11:46 GMT
#8297
On December 01 2013 18:53 dravernor wrote:
Yeah, it is F11 for me. After various changes and forcing boot from cd rom, I have come to conclude either my Win7 copy is faulty or my cd rom isn't properly connected (which I don't think is actually the problem since the light comes on indicating it has recognized I have inserted a disk). I am probably just going to call in someone smarter than me to help me load Win7 on a memory stick and boot from that.
Alternatively, I have Win XP that I could probably load and upgrade from, but I have never done that before without a complete format.

ANYWAY. Next question. Before my former C drive died, I did a 'back-up and restore' back up. Does anyone know exactly what this backs up? If I go and use it to restore onto a new HDD, what will it have backed up? My settings and program files, my music, etc? In short, will it have backed up EVERYTHING on my old hdd? Conflicting answers from google...


The default "backup" method is backing up everything on your C:/ drive, especially the "WINDOWS" folder.
Whether it has ended with a happy ending or sad, I never was an important thing to you.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 01 2013 14:47 GMT
#8298
So I just ordered 2 * R9 270X and will use them in a crossfire setup. What I need help with is about PSU requirements.

I am currently using an OCZ fatal1ty 550Watt Psu. Which provides 450 Watts on dual 12v rails. Will that provide enough power? I ran the numbers on that PSU calculator site and it came in with 447 watts recommended. so just under. However a bit tech review on the card recommended a 700 Watt PSU for that setup.
I also have a 700 Watt Coolermaster Extreme Power plus that I have never used due to hearing bad things about it. Would that be OK if the OCZ is not up to task?

Finally if neither of those PSU's present a reliable option is THIS an ok replacement?


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 16:04:59
December 01 2013 15:59 GMT
#8299
hey guys a few questions, so i have my 144hz asus 24" monitor now and im playing cs:go but sometimes my FPS dip below 144 and it gets a bit laggy.. i feel like this shouldnt happend with my current pc (4670 + 660 2x4gb 1600 ram) but it does. im playing on low settings so my pc should be able to handle this?? would overclocking help?? could there be other factors i have to look at ?? im confused and dont really know what the bottleneck is
Jurg Jurg Jurg
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
December 01 2013 16:09 GMT
#8300
On December 01 2013 23:47 DarthPunk wrote:
So I just ordered 2 * R9 270X and will use them in a crossfire setup. What I need help with is about PSU requirements.

I am currently using an OCZ fatal1ty 550Watt Psu. Which provides 450 Watts on dual 12v rails. Will that provide enough power? I ran the numbers on that PSU calculator site and it came in with 447 watts recommended. so just under. However a bit tech review on the card recommended a 700 Watt PSU for that setup.
I also have a 700 Watt Coolermaster Extreme Power plus that I have never used due to hearing bad things about it. Would that be OK if the OCZ is not up to task?

Finally if neither of those PSU's present a reliable option is THIS an ok replacement?




What's your CPU? Are you running stuff stock?

On December 02 2013 00:59 KapsyL wrote:
hey guys a few questions, so i have my 144hz asus 24" monitor now and im playing cs:go but sometimes my FPS dip below 144 and it gets a bit laggy.. i feel like this shouldnt happend with my current pc (4670 + 660 2x4gb 1600 ram) but it does. im playing on low settings so my pc should be able to handle this?? would overclocking help?? could there be other factors i have to look at ?? im confused and dont really know what the bottleneck is



Do you have Vsync on?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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