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B40
Profile Joined January 2013
15 Posts
June 04 2013 22:47 GMT
#6741
hello
will AMD A8-4555M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (1.60GHz) processor be able to run HotS comfortably?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
June 04 2013 22:50 GMT
#6742
It's one of the worst possible CPU's you could run the game on, is it just a really low end laptop?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
June 04 2013 22:52 GMT
#6743
On June 05 2013 07:16 Proxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 07:05 skyR wrote:
You only save like $20 getting the FX8350 over the 3570k and the price difference between a 7870 Tahiti LE and a 7950 is closer to $50 then it is to $20...

I have a microcenter near me so i think I can can save about $50 assuming the asrock extreme4 is equivalent for both


It's sad that they have to undercut the i5 so much to make their 8-core CPU's worth considering; in this case, down to what games you play. It's a big no for sc2 if you seek high performance, but not so bad for many others, and you do have performance leads if you can heavily utilize more than 6 cores
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 04 2013 23:07 GMT
#6744
The FX8350 is listed at Microcenter for $180 while the 3570k is $190

You can't really directly compare Extreme4s across chipsets as the chipsets are different and the components used will most likely be different. But if you're talking about the 970 Extreme4, that would be worse than the 990FX Extreme4 which could be considered on par or worse than a Z77 Extreme4.

It might be better to consider the 4670k over the 3570k at Microcenter now since it seems as they increased the pricing on all the Z77 boards.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
June 04 2013 23:54 GMT
#6745
TL;DR
Looking for a good gaming laptop, budget $1000-1500 Canadian. Thoughts?
+ Show Spoiler +

I'm looking to buy a new laptop, and while money isn't tight I'm not looking to simply piss it down a drain somewhere. Gaming specs are my main requirement (whatever that might entail).

From what I can tell, if I have to ask if I can build a laptop, I shouldn't be building a laptop. With that in mind, assuming a budget of $1000-1500 Canadian/US (family living in the states) what would be some recommendations on a particular brand and configuration:

I have external harddrives, so lower capacity won't make me cry.
I'd like something portable, possibly for watching movies on the train. In this vein, a battery life of ~3 hours of running content should be enough for me to get to a power supply.
I plan to set up monitors at home to simulate a desktop environment. Is it possible to connect multiple monitors to a laptop?
B40
Profile Joined January 2013
15 Posts
June 05 2013 00:18 GMT
#6746
On June 05 2013 07:50 Cyro wrote:
It's one of the worst possible CPU's you could run the game on, is it just a really low end laptop?



not really; it's a samsung ultrabook
the graphics card is AMD radeon (i forgot what it was exactly)
8g ram
128ssd

on the canyourunit, it says it should be able to run it well
and doesn't say the processor is a problem
thoughts?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
June 05 2013 00:24 GMT
#6747
It has a very low clockrate and four cores, while SC2 has poor multi-core support.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 00:32:11
June 05 2013 00:30 GMT
#6748
1.6ghz piledriver just won't get you anywhere in sc2. You'd be looking at something like a third of the performance of an ivy bridge pentium (something like $60 to buy on a desktop pc)

It is far, far weaker than the reccomended system requirements, which are weak by todays standards. I would consider putting up with this CPU in maybe a $300 or something laptop, other than that, it's just really silly.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 05 2013 00:35 GMT
#6749
Well, theoretically the Turbo Core is up to 2.4 GHz, but that 19W TDP is for both the the CPU cores and the integrated graphics combined. It'll probably be somewhere in between 1.6 and 2.4 GHz.

It should be a pretty cheap and efficient low-power chip, but it's one of the worst things you could realistically have for a relatively new system to run SC2.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
June 05 2013 00:36 GMT
#6750
Oh, I was wondering what they meant with that range.
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iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 02:35:30
June 05 2013 01:00 GMT
#6751
On June 05 2013 08:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
TL;DR
Looking for a good gaming laptop, budget $1000-1500 Canadian. Thoughts?
+ Show Spoiler +

I'm looking to buy a new laptop, and while money isn't tight I'm not looking to simply piss it down a drain somewhere. Gaming specs are my main requirement (whatever that might entail).

From what I can tell, if I have to ask if I can build a laptop, I shouldn't be building a laptop. With that in mind, assuming a budget of $1000-1500 Canadian/US (family living in the states) what would be some recommendations on a particular brand and configuration:

I have external harddrives, so lower capacity won't make me cry.
I'd like something portable, possibly for watching movies on the train. In this vein, a battery life of ~3 hours of running content should be enough for me to get to a power supply.
I plan to set up monitors at home to simulate a desktop environment. Is it possible to connect multiple monitors to a laptop?

I just purchased one after a week of research
best deal was y510p on newegg $1050 (with -$100 new customer coupon - PCREFRESH13).
i7 4700MQ(2.40GHz) 15.6" 12GB Memory 8GB SSD 1TB HDD NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M SLI

Model just came out a few days ago, and supposedly improved a bit on previous one, which was still very good (like matte screen over glossy, haswell cpu, better battery). You'll prolly get performance that's close enough to good $1500 laptops, with the drawback being that you have SLI vcards. The closest lenovo rep came to a similar machine was $1250 + tax, so it's a great deal.
Also while it lists 8gb ssd, I've seen someone post that theirs came with 24gb ssd. Hoping mine will too
Otherwise some sager/clevo builds from xotic pc looked good too.

check out this site, the recommendations were spot on. Just keep in mind that he is currently updating it with new models so some things from from May might be outdated
http://gaminglaptopsjunky.com/

I also saw some canadian site selling y510p for $1130 which is still a good deal, but cant remember which one=/

Going up in price, the recommendation from that site was as follows:

Up to 1500$ there might be soon GTX 780M laptops and I’m pretty sure you can get GTX 680M/Radeon 8970M laptops. 780M for 1500-1600$ should be at least as cost effective [as y510p].


he still recommended y510p or Sager NP7352 unless you really need the improved performance of those video cards

if you wait a bit more models should be poppin up soon
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 05 2013 01:53 GMT
#6752
Hey. This is my first question here:

My old laptop just died. I had 3 months of diary entries on there, and some settings in C for my projects.
I was wondering if I could just rip the external HDD out and use it as an external. There is obviously an OS (win7) already installed on the old HDD. Can I still navigate through and find the files inside the external as if it were a regular external HDD. This is all assuming I get the right SATA to USB enclosure.

Thank you.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 05 2013 02:06 GMT
#6753
Yeah, you can use it as an external drive. No problem.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 05 2013 02:09 GMT
#6754
On June 05 2013 11:06 Myrmidon wrote:
Yeah, you can use it as an external drive. No problem.

Cool. thanks!

That was easy.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
June 05 2013 05:54 GMT
#6755
I don't think there's such a thing as a type of hard drive that can't be put into an enclosure.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Vearo
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada168 Posts
June 05 2013 13:56 GMT
#6756
I'm planning on building a new computer, but should I wait for NVidia to release the 760/760TI? I have to run with a credit card limit of $1000, so I might not be able to afford a new card until I pay the bill regardless.
"Smooth as Pie" - Day[9]
crank123
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany24 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 15:07:44
June 05 2013 15:06 GMT
#6757
On May 31 2013 23:07 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 22:38 crank wrote:
Any tips on how to properly overclock my 3570k? I have this motherboard and this cooler. I am planning to overclock to about 4ghz.

  • Hang your head in shame for having bought a Z77X-UD3 and Macho 120 for such a trifling overclock
  • Boot into UEFI (newfangled BIOS replacement), set multiplier of 40x, maybe up voltage a bit like 0.05 V
  • Done

Oh wait, you said "properly". For 4.0 GHz there's really not much to it though, but I guess you could optimize that. It's just a matter of trial and error, hopefully systematically testing different combinations of clock speed, core voltage, and other peripheral settings to see what works. You want clock speed of 4.0 GHz, so that means a multiplier of 40x with the standard 100 MHz base clock. You just need to see what voltage and settings allow that to run stably. Lower voltages are better, if they work, as that means less stress on the CPU, lower temps, and lower power draw. Test stability by running a CPU stress test and monitor temperatures to make sure they're not going too high, like above mid-80s C or so under heavy load.

You could probably find a guide on Gigabyte's Z77 UEFI layout and what settings do in particular, etc. at one of the usual places. Try OCN or something.


I guess you're implying that i could go higher with that setup. What do you think would be a reasonable overclock.
Also is there any performance difference in games like SC2 between i5 and i7 of the same generations?
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
June 05 2013 15:27 GMT
#6758
On June 05 2013 22:56 Vearo wrote:
I'm planning on building a new computer, but should I wait for NVidia to release the 760/760TI? I have to run with a credit card limit of $1000, so I might not be able to afford a new card until I pay the bill regardless.


Depends on what you plan to do on the computer (which games, what resolution, other tasks?)
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 15:39:18
June 05 2013 15:28 GMT
#6759
On June 05 2013 08:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
TL;DR
Looking for a good gaming laptop, budget $1000-1500 Canadian. Thoughts?
+ Show Spoiler +

I'm looking to buy a new laptop, and while money isn't tight I'm not looking to simply piss it down a drain somewhere. Gaming specs are my main requirement (whatever that might entail).

From what I can tell, if I have to ask if I can build a laptop, I shouldn't be building a laptop. With that in mind, assuming a budget of $1000-1500 Canadian/US (family living in the states) what would be some recommendations on a particular brand and configuration:

I have external harddrives, so lower capacity won't make me cry.
I'd like something portable, possibly for watching movies on the train. In this vein, a battery life of ~3 hours of running content should be enough for me to get to a power supply.
I plan to set up monitors at home to simulate a desktop environment. Is it possible to connect multiple monitors to a laptop?


Did you consider getting a tablet + desktop?

Edit: to elaborate, laptops provide you a mixture of movability and horsepower but they really lack the horsepower unless you give up alot of movability (batterylife, weight, size). Not being to familiar with prices, and assuming you have access to a free OS for a potential desktop, I dont think you would have to spend too much more for the laptop+ desktop combo.
Vearo
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada168 Posts
June 05 2013 16:06 GMT
#6760
On June 06 2013 00:27 Ata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 22:56 Vearo wrote:
I'm planning on building a new computer, but should I wait for NVidia to release the 760/760TI? I have to run with a credit card limit of $1000, so I might not be able to afford a new card until I pay the bill regardless.


Depends on what you plan to do on the computer (which games, what resolution, other tasks?)


I already have a build in mind, which I shall post later on the build thread. Basically I am looking for a video card in the $200-$300 range which the 760 should fall under, but I haven't heard/read anything about it releasing besides "Q2 2013".

I think that the 760/760TI will fall around 670 in terms of performance, but I don't know if existing cards will provide a viable alternative at that price range.
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