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On June 06 2013 00:06 crank wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 23:07 Myrmidon wrote:On May 31 2013 22:38 crank wrote:Any tips on how to properly overclock my 3570k? I have this motherboard and this cooler. I am planning to overclock to about 4ghz. - Hang your head in shame for having bought a Z77X-UD3 and Macho 120 for such a trifling overclock
- Boot into UEFI (newfangled BIOS replacement), set multiplier of 40x, maybe up voltage a bit like 0.05 V
- Done
Oh wait, you said "properly". For 4.0 GHz there's really not much to it though, but I guess you could optimize that. It's just a matter of trial and error, hopefully systematically testing different combinations of clock speed, core voltage, and other peripheral settings to see what works. You want clock speed of 4.0 GHz, so that means a multiplier of 40x with the standard 100 MHz base clock. You just need to see what voltage and settings allow that to run stably. Lower voltages are better, if they work, as that means less stress on the CPU, lower temps, and lower power draw. Test stability by running a CPU stress test and monitor temperatures to make sure they're not going too high, like above mid-80s C or so under heavy load. You could probably find a guide on Gigabyte's Z77 UEFI layout and what settings do in particular, etc. at one of the usual places. Try OCN or something. I guess you're implying that i could go higher with that setup. What do you think would be a reasonable overclock. Also is there any performance difference in games like SC2 between i5 and i7 of the same generations?
Your cooler should be able to cool about 1.3 V or more comfortably. If you got lucky with your CPU, this could be towards 5 GHz, if you are unlucky you will be disappointed with 4.4 GHz or something.
The cores of i5 and i7 have the exact same speed executing a single thread on a core. There's one thread in SC2 that's holding the rest of the game back, so the things the i7 has extra can't be used by it to beat the i5.
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I'm installing my msi hd radeon 7770. My rosewill capstone PSU has a pci express 6-pin which fits into the 6-pin on the card. Do I plug that one in, or the power chord I got in the GPU box?
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Dunno if this is more of a tech related question, but I have a good feeling this might also be a good place to ask:
Anyone else got a Qsenn dt-35? If so, I'm wondering if anyone else has tried to clean theirs by pouring water over it like in the Youtube videos. I realized its been forever since I've cleaned mine, but when I tried to remove all the keys I ran into some trouble with the shift/space/enter keys, so instead I was wanting to try the water thing 
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On June 06 2013 04:04 Jugan wrote:
I'm installing my msi hd radeon 7770. My rosewill capstone PSU has a pci express 6-pin which fits into the 6-pin on the card. Do I plug that one in, or the power chord I got in the GPU box?
Use the PSU one. Probably will not matter with just a 7770 but it should provide better power.
On June 06 2013 04:21 Jojo131 wrote:Dunno if this is more of a tech related question, but I have a good feeling this might also be a good place to ask: Anyone else got a Qsenn dt-35? If so, I'm wondering if anyone else has tried to clean theirs by pouring water over it like in the Youtube videos. I realized its been forever since I've cleaned mine, but when I tried to remove all the keys I ran into some trouble with the shift/space/enter keys, so instead I was wanting to try the water thing
I guess you could pour water on it/put it in the dishwasher. But you have to wait until it is completely dry before using it to not kill it. Everything, especially the insides needs to be dry and drying like that takes ages.
Why not just pull the keys off and give everything a wipe with a damp cloth? Then you can use it basically straight after you are done cleaning. DT-35 is pretty popular, Im sure there is a youtube vid on how to take the big keys off.
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I'm thinking of upgrading my current computer but I will have leftover parts for another decent one. I heard that you can upgrade window 7 to window 8 and still keep a copy of window 7 for around 30 dollars. Has anyone done this successfully or can confirm that this is still working?
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That promo has expired I think.
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Thanks for the info! I have a couple more questions:
1. What is the pci express chord coming out of my PSU for, or what does it do?
2. What is the SLI chord coming out of my PSU and why is it attached to the pci express chord?
3. How can I tell if my msi hd radeon 7770 is working without a monitor and hdd/ssd installed? (Mobo powers up, case and hsf fans work, power button and power leds work).
4. What are the "power sockets" called? (the ones you plug into the fan sockets, they're kinda big and white usually with 4 holes and they're circular)
thanks!
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About 1 and 2, there's a limit about how much power a graphics card can get over the PCIe slot. Some graphics cards just need more power, and that's where these special power supply cables come in. There's six and eight pin connectors and the graphics card can have one or two sockets for these depending on how much power it needs.
Number 4 is probably the connector most people just call "Molex" (though all the other larger connectors like those from question 1 and 2 are technically also Molex as it's some kind of brand name). That's just general 12 V and 5 V on two pins and ground on the other two. It's not only used for fans. It was also used for anything else in the past. For fans, there's also tiny fan connectors, usually a bunch of sockets for these on the motherboard, but the PSU can also have cables with those tiny sockets for fans.
For 3, you'd probably still need a monitor to check, but you don't need any drives connected. The BIOS/UEFI will also want to show something on the monitor, even if it's just the error message that it can't find a drive with an OS.
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I have an AMD Phenom X2 555 BE, 4GB DDR1600 and Radeon 7950. I'd like to be able to stream DotA2/SC2 so I'm wondering, will upgrading to a Phenom 965 BE would enable me to do so? Is there anything for socket AM3 that's worth the upgrade or should I just build a brand new box? I'm planning on building a new computer next year whether or not I upgrade now, but I just wanted to know if there was something relatively cheap that I can get in the short term as a stopgap.
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If your motherboard allows it, why don't you try unlocking the X2 555 to a X4.
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On June 06 2013 08:43 skyR wrote:
If your motherboard allows it, why don't you try unlocking the X2 555 to a X4.
Tried it, IIRC it wouldn't even POST, I got a later revision 555 so perhaps it's not unlockable.
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965be would be great for streaming, it doesn't compete with current gen i5 though. Haswell overclocks higher, easier, and even 4ghz vs 4ghz for example it's about 60% faster so it's a whole other performance league
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On June 06 2013 09:05 Cyro wrote:
965be would be great for streaming, it doesn't compete with current gen i5 though. Haswell overclocks higher, easier, and even 4ghz vs 4ghz for example it's about 60% faster so it's a whole other performance league
Alright, good to know streaming is a possibility. I'll buy a 965 as a stop gap, and perhaps it can allow me to hold off until Skylake comes out.
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Diffrence between 2x4 RAM or 4x2 RAM?
Minimum Graphics card to max out starcraft 2?
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2 modules prefered
awesome
~7750 for 1920x1080
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But what is the acutal diffrence? I take it 2 modules is better but whats the diffrence really?
a NVIDIA card equal to 7750, which?
Thanks
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From my limited knowledge I assume it has something to do with the Dual Channel functionality where two modules can interact which each other faster.
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On June 07 2013 06:03 Flaiker wrote:
From my limited knowledge I assume it has something to do with the Dual Channel functionality where two modules can interact which each other faster.
As long as there is a multiple of two, and each of the pairs is the same size, you can use dual channel.
Less sticks means less strain on the IMC, less power draw, more room to upgrade if you need, more resell value in the future, etc. All very trivial though, it really doesn't matter much either way.
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Could someone list (tier 1, 2, 3 ...) these graphics card brands by general reliability?
Asus
EVGA
Gigabyte
HIS
MSI
PowerColor
Sapphire
VisionTek
XFX
Zotac
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On June 07 2013 11:30 domane wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Could someone list (tier 1, 2, 3 ...) these graphics card brands by general reliability?
Asus
EVGA
Gigabyte
HIS
MSI
PowerColor
Sapphire
VisionTek
XFX
Zotac
We don't have any information regarding the RMA rates for the various companies so the answers you'll get from people will mostly be their personal experiences and preferences. Take with grain of salt. My list would go something like this:
Tier 1: MSI, ASUS
- RMA centers in Canada, Twin Frozr and DirectCU are excellent heatsinks, standard 3 year warranty.
Tier 2: EVGA
- Excellent support, some would argue the best in the video card industry. Lots of perks like StepUp program, Advanced RMA, and option to pay for extended warranty.
Tier 3: Gigabyte
- Windforce heatsink is excellent and cards are typically clocked higher than the previously mentioned three. Lots of people generally consider them to be on par if not better than ASUS and/or MSI. Only reason why I won't consider them over EVGA, MSI, and ASUS is that their RMA center is in California. Might not be as bad if you're living in a western province or if you don't care.
Tier everyone else:
- Sapphire has great products but they outsource RMA
- HIS outsources RMA.
- XFX, beyond terrible support.
- No negative or positive comments on Powercolor or Visiontek.
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