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Flaiker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany235 Posts
May 31 2013 16:19 GMT
#6701
On May 23 2013 05:12 Ropid wrote:
@Flaiker:

Programs you might want to install: CoreTemp, CPU-Z, IntelBurnTest (or LinX), HWMonitor

If you have enough patience, best would be to wait a few days and see if everything runs perfect at default settings without any overclocking. After you are convinced of that, I mentioned what method I like best in that post just before yours.

Starting from default BIOS settings, set "Load Line Calibration" (LLC) to "High". Set the memory to use the XMP profile. Set CPU voltage to "Normal" (or something fixed and modest like 1.2 V). For the overclocking, go at it like this:

1) if the PC runs stable, increase multiplier
2) if the PC runs unstable, increase voltage (or offset)
3) if the CPU is too hot, decrease multiplier and stop

"IntelBurnTest" or "LinX" are the stress test programs that produce the highest possible CPU temperature. Use one of those and check if CPU core temperatures are below 85 C (that's just my opinion). Normal programs will then run at 60 C or something. IBT and LinX are also a solid test of stability if you increase their memory use so that they run for several minutes for each pass of the test they do.

You could also go at it backwards. Instead of slowly working your way up, you could just declare your cooler will probably do 1.3 V just fine, set that voltage (that takes some guessing if using offset voltage), then find the highest multiplier that will run IBT or LinX at 4 GB memory for 20 passes without crash or error.

Don't touch 1.4 V, better stay below 1.35 V (that's just my opinion).

This is a guide about overclocking on Ivy Bridge: http://sinhardware.com/index.php/overclockingoc-guides/116-ivy-bridge-overclocking-guide/126-ivy-bridge-overclocking-guide-with-ln2-guide-at-the-end

That guide uses a Gigabyte board and has screenshots of the relevant BIOS settings.

This guide comes with a ZIP file of a bunch of programs and explains how to use "prime95" and stuff, but isn't for your motherboard: http://www.overclock.net/t/1198504/complete-overclocking-guide-sandy-bridge-ivy-bridge-asrock-edition

About stability, you should look for "WHEA" warnings in the Windows event viewer in the Administrative Events log. The CPU can apparently catch errors and fix those without the PC crashing. Windows will log that WHEA event when this happens. Increase voltage by a +0.005 V step each time you see those warnings. Those events should disappear after you increase voltage enough. I needed about +0.02 V total.

You might want to look at a program named "SpeedFan" which can control fan speeds depending on temperatures. It's pretty annoying to use, but it seems to be the only Windows program that can do what it does.


I just noticed I didn't answer to your post. Thanks for summing this up!
I managed to overclock using Cyro's help, still testing stability now.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 31 2013 21:47 GMT
#6702
Hi all,

So my router is shitting the bed and keeps disconnecting me at random intervals, as frequently as every 2-3 minutes at worst and a couple hours at best. I already tried buying a replacement, a Netgear WNR3500L, that's currently shitting the bed by achieving a wifi speed not over .5 mbps. Quick google searches online lead me to believe that this is a common problem with no solution (that I've found).

So my question is this- all I want is a router that won't disconnect me every couple minutes/hours, that isn't slow as shit and is under 80 dollars. I don't know if any of you have any particular experience/knowledge of routers but could any of you guys provide me with some recommendations? Thanks.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
May 31 2013 22:03 GMT
#6703
Are you sure it's not your modem? (assuming you have one). And are you using wireless or not? One of my roomates randomly gets disco'd all the time but nobody else experiences it.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 31 2013 22:18 GMT
#6704
On June 01 2013 07:03 Infernal_dream wrote:
Are you sure it's not your modem? (assuming you have one). And are you using wireless or not? One of my roomates randomly gets disco'd all the time but nobody else experiences it.

Pretty sure, as the problems on each of my routers are different- the new one will not disconnect but is slow as fuck, the old one is fast but disconnects several times a day (or hour if it's really bad). Using wireless. This happens over multiple devices so I'm also sure it's not a particular device.
Czarnodziej
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland624 Posts
May 31 2013 22:26 GMT
#6705
I have WNR3500L and I haven't had a single issue with it for the past 2 years. Are you sure its configured properly?
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 31 2013 22:42 GMT
#6706
Yeah. Updated the firmware and everything. I can double check but I'm pretty sure I did everything right.

Are you using it for wifi connections? Because the wired connection is fine, it's the wifi that's slow.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
May 31 2013 23:37 GMT
#6707
I don't like my WNDR4300, either. Old PC had lots of issues keeping a connection (seemingly alleviated by driver update but I only used it for a few days before new build). New PC still occasionally drops out connection to the router. I've had the wireless (not used by desktop) just arbitrarily stop working and require a full router reboot.

I had issues with my last 2 Netgear routers, too.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Czarnodziej
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland624 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 06:48:37
June 01 2013 06:46 GMT
#6708
Wifi is fine, on all of my devices (phone, laptop, psp, nds). DD-WRT firmware.
subterrestrial
Profile Joined June 2013
United States6 Posts
June 01 2013 16:39 GMT
#6709
First post:

I'm planning on building a PC over the next week or two capable of playing Rome 2 on max settings when it comes out in September. I'm at a dilemma as I don't know whether I should pick up an 3570k/mobo bundle at microcenter now or wait and buy the 4670k. Basically my question is would I be at a noticable disadvantage with an OC'd (possibly delid) 3570k compared to the new chips?

Thanks in advance
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 01 2013 16:54 GMT
#6710
First signs point to waiting for Haswell not being important as it seems it's not overclocking better than Ivy Bridge. Saving money with the special deal on the 3570k+board would make a lot of sense if that's correct. The problem I see is people also said the same when Ivy Bridge came out. People were saying Sandy Bridge would be the better choice, but it turned out Ivy Bridge was still better. The same could repeat itself with Haswell after people get to play and experiment with the new boards and CPUs.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
June 01 2013 18:02 GMT
#6711
On June 02 2013 01:39 subterrestrial wrote:
First post:

I'm planning on building a PC over the next week or two capable of playing Rome 2 on max settings when it comes out in September. I'm at a dilemma as I don't know whether I should pick up an 3570k/mobo bundle at microcenter now or wait and buy the 4670k. Basically my question is would I be at a noticable disadvantage with an OC'd (possibly delid) 3570k compared to the new chips?

Thanks in advance

Just a little.
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subterrestrial
Profile Joined June 2013
United States6 Posts
June 01 2013 19:38 GMT
#6712
Right, to compare the 3570k and 4670k side by side the haswell will outperform the former. I guess the heart of my question is would a OC'd 3570k have problems keeping up with games for the next couple years?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
June 01 2013 19:54 GMT
#6713
I very much doubt it's going to be make or break no matter which you get. They're both very high end.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 01 2013 20:07 GMT
#6714
If you put a large cooler on it and overclock it a good amount with a bit of luck, it will surely stay competitive with newly released CPUs at their stock speed for a very long time. I can't see it going bad as game developers target normal and current stuff and you will have a CPU that's completely outside of that for years.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
subterrestrial
Profile Joined June 2013
United States6 Posts
June 01 2013 20:43 GMT
#6715
Thank you both for your quick responses, ivy bridge it is.
-RusH
Profile Joined June 2012
United States240 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 00:51:46
June 02 2013 03:43 GMT
#6716
NVM thanks.
Life..
Vilanoil
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany47 Posts
June 02 2013 08:32 GMT
#6717
Hey,
my Computer, with Win7 installed, sometimes disables the JP/KR signs which lets my folders look like this:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


when i'm lucky it automatically gets back normal but i don't know why it happens and how i could stop that.



skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 02 2013 08:55 GMT
#6718
Restart and it should fix it, sometimes you need to do another restart. I don't know exactly why Windows does this but I find it extremely annoying as well.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
June 02 2013 20:28 GMT
#6719
On June 02 2013 17:55 skyR wrote:
Restart and it should fix it, sometimes you need to do another restart. I don't know exactly why Windows does this but I find it extremely annoying as well.


That.
Happens to me too from time to time, sometimes helps deleting the font cache file, it should be inside the system32 folder and it's called FNTCACHE.DAT
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
waffling1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
599 Posts
June 02 2013 22:35 GMT
#6720
I have a Vertex 3 SSD. It is version 2.2.something
I am trying to update the firmware to 4.3.something.

http://ocz.com/consumer/download/firmwarehttp://ocz.com/consumer/download/firmware


I am using hte PC bootable version b/c my OS is on my SSD.
once i go through everything in the instructions here
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?105168-NEW!!-OCZ-Bootable-Toolbox-PC-Edition-(REBUILD)http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?105168-NEW!!-OCZ-Bootable-Toolbox-PC-Edition-%28REBUILD%29
and get to the point where i need internet connection, I run into a catch 22 problem.

I need internet connection, but this OCZ's PC bootable software does not support my driver. It does not support my wireless driver/card/adapter either. So i cannot update it. I am using gigabyte z77x-ud3h, which uses the "mb_driver_lan_atheros_813x_815x_816x" driver.

What I can think of, is to use another computer with an internet driver that is supported by this OCZ's updating software. But can a board use a different brand network/lan driver (like marvel, intel, realtek), and if so, which ones are compatible with my mobo?

Thanks.
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