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Medrea

10003 Posts

November 06 2012 20:13 GMT

#4601

You keep bothering them.

And they scammed you into getting new equipment obviously. Cable companies do it all the time.

Belial88

United States5217 Posts

November 06 2012 21:18 GMT

#4602

On November 07 2012 05:12 Frost wrote:
Hey guys, I am currently using Cox Communications for my internet. And I've been noticing that my internet becomes unstable/laggy as hell during peak hours. This issue has started occuring since a month ago. It has never happened before then. I call Cox about it and they send me a tech guy over and he says it was my router and modem causing the issue, not them. So I replaced my router with a dual-band router as suggested by the Cox tech guy and also replace my modem with a Docsis 3.0 modem that they recommended. And what do you know, the issue is still happening. Can anyone tell me how to fix or what is causing this dumb issue? thank you!

well the obvious troubleshooting steps to start with, would be to connect directly to your router, to rule out the router being at fault. Speedtest with both normal usage, plugged into the router, and then test again to same server with direct connect to router. Routers can really cut down your download speed, especially with certain security features.

from what ive read, docsis 3.0 helps spread your download bandwidth over multiple channels, and should be a noticeable improvement. not really sure what speed you have though, so if you are on 56k probably doesnt matter.

there's so much that could be going wrong with your internet. look up some stuff about troubleshooting it, we could help more if you provided more details. i mean the first thing you probably should have done is direct connected, to see if wireless was the problem. wireless always seems to hurt connection, can't play sc2 on wireless can you? i suppose you can nowadays but i think most gamers opt for a solid line.

TuckFexas

United States154 Posts

November 06 2012 22:37 GMT

#4603

hey, whats the core clock on a gpu do? there are two models on newegg, one has 928MHz and costs 140$, while the other has 1071MHz and costs 160$. Same brand and everything else is identical.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130838

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130839

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

November 06 2012 23:01 GMT

#4604

Core clock is the operating frequency of the GPU (you're looking at 600 series, which is Kepler, which no longer has a separate clock for the computational units). The higher the number, the more operations / second can be run. This frequency can be adjusted by the end user with specialized software utilities, to a certain point. Running a frequency higher than a part is capable of will cause intermittent (or immediate) crashing.

The more expensive version is clocked higher out of the box, in its default configuration. Thus, it will compute things a little faster.

At a kind of price around $160, that is seriously infringing on the generally-faster AMD Radeon HD 7850 1GB, which costs a similar amount.

TheRabidDeer

United States3806 Posts

November 07 2012 04:19 GMT

#4605

So, I dont really know why but for some reason my USB 3.0 ports (both on the front and back of the computer) stops working after waking up from sleep. It works fine when I restart, but as soon as I sleep it... they stop working. Anybody know why?

I am using an msi P67A-GD65 mobo on Win7

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

November 07 2012 04:40 GMT

#4606

Probably need to disable suspend USB devices in power options or PLL Overvoltage in BIOS.

TheRabidDeer

United States3806 Posts

November 07 2012 07:15 GMT

#4607

On November 07 2012 13:40 skyR wrote:
Probably need to disable suspend USB devices in power options or PLL Overvoltage in BIOS.

Disabled suspend USB devices in power options, didnt work
Mobo doesnt seem to support disabling PLL overvoltage... only has auto or manually changing.

RiSkysc2

696 Posts

November 07 2012 14:05 GMT

#4608

Is it possible to crossfire one 7950 and one 7970?

Rannasha

Netherlands2398 Posts

November 07 2012 16:05 GMT

#4609

On November 07 2012 23:05 RiSkyToss wrote:
Is it possible to crossfire one 7950 and one 7970?

Yes:

TOCHMY

Sweden1692 Posts

November 07 2012 17:16 GMT

#4610

We had power outage today in our house. I had my laptop plugged in but it was off. When I got home, after the power outage, i powered my comp and noticed that my battery didn't charge. It said "plugged in not charging".
I thought it was my adapter first, but I removed the battery and it was working. You think my battery broke cuz of the outage?

nihlon

Sweden5581 Posts

November 07 2012 17:32 GMT

#4611

On November 08 2012 02:16 TOCHMY wrote:
We had power outage today in our house. I had my laptop plugged in but it was off. When I got home, after the power outage, i powered my comp and noticed that my battery didn't charge. It said "plugged in not charging".
I thought it was my adapter first, but I removed the battery and it was working. You think my battery broke cuz of the outage?

It's possible, any electronics that are plugged into a jack can be damaged by lightening regardless if it's on or off.

Or it's just a coincidence, how old is your computer? Batteries tend to have a limited lifetime for laptops.

TOCHMY

Sweden1692 Posts

November 07 2012 17:55 GMT

#4612

My computer is just a month and a half old. New MSI for 1500 euro, batteries should last longer unless its a fault. Question is if i can replace it for free, 1 year insurance should cover tho

Doodsmack

United States7224 Posts

November 08 2012 02:41 GMT

#4613

Is it worth it to upgrade to a AMD FX-8350 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284) over a Phenom II x4 955 Deneb? I use my comp for SC2/FPS games, streaming, and some photo and video editing.

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

November 08 2012 02:59 GMT

#4614

On November 08 2012 11:41 Doodsmack wrote:
Is it worth it to upgrade to a AMD FX-8350 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284) over a Phenom II x4 955 Deneb? I use my comp for SC2/FPS games, streaming, and some photo and video editing.

How much is $220 worth for you?

It's only marginally better for games, but it's somewhere around twice as fast for encoding. If you want a little better stream quality or if you're doing heavy operations in photo/video editing a lot and are waiting for stuff to happen, maybe it's worth it.

Belial88

United States5217 Posts

November 08 2012 07:21 GMT

#4615


.............not including 6 hours previous of the test
[Wed Nov 07 00:56:43 2012]
Self-test 1920K passed!
[Wed Nov 07 01:04:19 2012]
Self-test 192K passed!
[Wed Nov 07 01:09:30 2012]
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[Wed Nov 07 01:52:46 2012]
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[Wed Nov 07 01:59:19 2012]
Self-test 2400K passed!

Does this mean p95 failed on fft 2400k, or a different value? If it failed on a different value, what value, and how can i figure it out?

Does anyone know what the VRM temperature limits are to a 3+1 power phase of somewhat lower quality (no rds on, 3 legged chips, nikos)? My diodes are saying 60-90*C, depending on vcore from 1.502 to 1.568.

thanks.

ZoRoXo

Norway268 Posts

November 08 2012 16:07 GMT

#4616

So I'm completely new to overclocking, googled abit, read some stuff, and I wanted to try to get a decent boost from my 2year old i3 530. I managed to get to 3.5ghz (160 bclk) with using the Asus TurboV program, couldn't go further without increasing voltage and I'm using stock cooler. (was not able to manually set it in bios, no idea why). I put my 6gb of 1333mhz ram to 1066 so I wouldn't OC them. Now my question is, since my ram timings now say 8 8 8 20, instead of the old 9 9 9 24, is that something I should worry about? Should I set them back to 9 9 9 24, or would that put them back into 1333mhz thus burning them up?

edit: should maybe add that everything runs slightly faster, 71celcius max in prime95

Belial88

United States5217 Posts

November 08 2012 19:34 GMT

#4617

You really shouldn't use software to overclock your system. You'll find that no one recommends software overclocks (except for maybe GPU overclocking) for a lot of reasons.

Your RAM being 'tightened' can be cause for instability. Yes, you should probably set them back to stock (or lower, or in the case of ram timings, 'looser', higher numerically) for the time being, until you figure out your cpu overclock.

RAM performance is determined by it's sheer speed (how fast the data moves, basically, ie 1333mhz, 1600mhz, 1066mhz) and timings (how long data waits during cycles). So the data may move at 1600mhz but it will have to wait 9 cycles instead of 8 cycles, so performance is a combination of both. From what I understand, Intel prefers quicker speed, while AMD prefers tighter timings, but I've seen benchmarks saying it's not that simple, such as AMD performs better with more speed when it comes to encoding (but not by much).

So that's why your seeing a performance boost. Your system is probably stable with 1 step loosened RAM, but i would recommend you manually set the timings, and speed, to stock or lower, while tinkering with everything else. If you are overclocking through bclk, then you'll need to do that. Your ram timings getting tightened might have to do with that setting being on 'auto', and they got tightened when you lowered ram speed to 1066.

ZoRoXo

Norway268 Posts

November 08 2012 20:40 GMT

#4618

So what you're saying is if i manually set the timings to 9 9 9 24 it would go back to 1333? (need to keep it more simple man, I'm completely new to this)

Since the bclk is locked in bios (tried setting it to manual, also tried the other to options xmp and dcopsomething?) I don't really have another way to figure out my cpu overclock. Most of the guides I saw used 1600mhz ram so they didn't even need to tinker anything with it, so it seemed so much easier.

I have not run into any instability, and I can run tribes ascend with maxed graphics!

Belial88

United States5217 Posts

November 08 2012 21:00 GMT

#4619

No I'm saying when your messing around with other things, like trying to figure out your max or preferred cpu clock & vcore, you should manually set other components, such as your RAM speed and timings. if you manually set the timings, you've manually set the timings.

RAM performance is based on it's speed (1333mhz, 1066mhz, etc, you can have it outside of these 'fixed' values with bclk increases too btw, my ram is stock 1333mhz, but i raised it to 1348mhz) and timings (9-9-9-24, 8-8-8-23, theres a ton of timings but like 5-6 major ones).

it sounds great that your ram seems stable under tighter timings, but if you were to crash in a week from now, after you started overclocking other components, you won't really know if it was the RAM's fault or the CPU's fault, and so all the testing you've done kind of gets screwed up and you dont really know what's reliable.

Playing tribes is great, but for stability testing you should really run something more... verifiable. I'd recommend running prime95 blend, at least overnight, for the cpu/total system stability (or small fft), using superpi or memtest for ram testing, etc. I've had plenty of overclocks go past 4ghz as gameplay stable but not prime95 30 minute stable until i brought it to like 3.4ghz.

Personally what I do, is after I'm done gaming for the day, and just browsing or watching videos, I'll run prime95 blend at priority 1, that way I can still use my computer. Then when I'm about to go to bed or done with the computer for the night, I'll set priority to 10 (it stresses the pc better at priority 10, but better to test at 3 hours on priority 1 than not at all, and priority 1 still tests the system, it just wont crash it as quickly as priority 10 might, so i might run it at priority 10 for 10 minutes, then use it for the night), go to bed, go to work, and that's over 15 hours of prime95 testing, maybe more if i dont decide to play any games for a bit and only use the pc for browsing/light loads for a while.

For testing other pc components you dont really have to do such a lengthy test, I've had p95 fail many, many times at 20+ hours, i just had an overclock fail at the 8th hour, so its important to test the cpu like this, and i'll do a 24 hour prime95 test when i think ive got the system 'perfect' to make 100% certain, but components like ram and gpu you dont really need to test for super long. If your cpu/system isn't rock stable, you have incorrect data being written in memory, and after a while the system gets more and more unstable, shit doesnt work because it's been saved incorrectly, etc.

I'm not really sure why your ram tightened automatically, but im assuming it must have 'compensated' automatically when you lowered the ram timings.

Basically, when testing a certain component of your system, ie cpu, make sure all other components are at stock or lower. So set your ram speed manually, as you did, and then just set the ram timings manually too. You dont need 1600 ram or anything, that's goofy. its also easy to have an overclock that isn't optimized.

I dont think tribes maxes out your ram, so it's not testing if your ram is really stable, and maxed graphics is more on your gpu, not cpu.

ZoRoXo

Norway268 Posts

November 08 2012 21:30 GMT

#4620

So when you overclocked your 1333mhz ram to 1348, did you set the timing manually to 8 8 8 23 or did it do that automatic? I was under the impression that specific ram multiplier (only had the option between 6x, 8x, 10x in bios) equaled specific ram timings.

edit: this is the guide I was trying to mimic (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i3-530-overclock-lga-1156,2626-4.html) their QPI link is also much lower than mine, (mine is at 3532 after leaving it on auto in bios) is that a good or bad thing?

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