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clocked
Profile Joined November 2012
111 Posts
November 13 2012 06:09 GMT
#4641
On November 09 2012 15:11 StarStrider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 14:13 clocked wrote:
I have a 560 ti right now. I only play sc2 (and sometimes Sims 3) is picking up a 660 to worth it?


Nope. You have all the power you need until you choose a more demanding game or video app.


Well I use Photoshop, Illustrator and Sony Vegas a lot. I don't know fif I should upgrade my 560 or my 3570k.
nanospartan
Profile Joined July 2011
649 Posts
November 13 2012 10:31 GMT
#4642
Are emulators for this gen consoles(360, PS3) viable and do they exist? I've been finding wildly different claims all over, just curious
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aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 20:29:59
November 13 2012 20:27 GMT
#4643
okay so i just built a new computer. i ordered a bunch of blue led fans to light up the case and for good cooling. anyway. im installing them in a haf 912, theyre all 140mm. i installed 2 on top, 1 in the back, they all light up nicely and run fine.

now my problem:

the 2 fans that are in the front of the case are to be connected using a 3 pin to molex or something (im not positive but pretty sure) (the fans have 3 pin connectors but on the little molex adapter it only has 2 pins not sure if this will help)
now im not sure how these are to be hooked up but i tried hooking up the 2 molex adapters together & then connecting them to the molex on the psu. computer wont start.

tried hooking them up to their own individual molex to the psu, computer wont start. there is only 1 place i can be plugging these in it seems to me cuz there is only 1 4 pin fan connector and i cant get the computer to start while doing it. the pc starts for like millisecond then kicks off. as soon as i pull the 4 pin connector out pc starts right back up. help please

what am i doing wrong?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 13 2012 21:03 GMT
#4644
On November 13 2012 15:09 clocked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 15:11 StarStrider wrote:
On November 09 2012 14:13 clocked wrote:
I have a 560 ti right now. I only play sc2 (and sometimes Sims 3) is picking up a 660 to worth it?


Nope. You have all the power you need until you choose a more demanding game or video app.


Well I use Photoshop, Illustrator and Sony Vegas a lot. I don't know fif I should upgrade my 560 or my 3570k.

Well, which operations are slow, and which can be accelerated? What are the CPU loads when doing things you want done faster? I don't use these programs, so I wouldn't know, but if you can figure out the bottleneck, then you can figure out what can be upgraded.

btw 560 ti -> 660 is not much of an upgrade for anything.


On November 13 2012 19:31 nanospartan wrote:
Are emulators for this gen consoles(360, PS3) viable and do they exist? I've been finding wildly different claims all over, just curious

I don't know offhand, but probably not, at least for trying to play commercial releases—which I figure is the actual question people want answered. Relatively modern hardware is not exactly way faster than it needs to be to even do realtime ps2 emulation, and glitchiness / game compatibility are still issues with current ps2 emulation. I think there's less interest in original xbox emulation, and I don't even know if that exists...? DC / NAOMI emulation is not that advanced either. If you expect emulation of 360 / PS3 (particularly PS3 and its architecture...), just consider how much more complex and powerful those are than the previous generation, then reset expectations accordingly.


On November 14 2012 05:27 aBstractx wrote:
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okay so i just built a new computer. i ordered a bunch of blue led fans to light up the case and for good cooling. anyway. im installing them in a haf 912, theyre all 140mm. i installed 2 on top, 1 in the back, they all light up nicely and run fine.

now my problem:

the 2 fans that are in the front of the case are to be connected using a 3 pin to molex or something (im not positive but pretty sure) (the fans have 3 pin connectors but on the little molex adapter it only has 2 pins not sure if this will help)
now im not sure how these are to be hooked up but i tried hooking up the 2 molex adapters together & then connecting them to the molex on the psu. computer wont start.

tried hooking them up to their own individual molex to the psu, computer wont start. there is only 1 place i can be plugging these in it seems to me cuz there is only 1 4 pin fan connector and i cant get the computer to start while doing it. the pc starts for like millisecond then kicks off. as soon as i pull the 4 pin connector out pc starts right back up. help please


what am i doing wrong?

Try checking the 3 pin -> molex adapter and/or using a different one. Or try running the fan directly from an actual 3-pin fan header on the motherboard (which also gives you a speed reading, in case that was of any interest; also potential voltage -> speed control on some headers on some motherboards). Could be a faulty adapter or wiring shorting something out.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 21:40:36
November 13 2012 21:35 GMT
#4645
On November 13 2012 19:31 nanospartan wrote:
Are emulators for this gen consoles(360, PS3) viable and do they exist? I've been finding wildly different claims all over, just curious


Dont expect emulators until mid 2020's. Most groups arent even going to start looking into it for another 8 years or so.

Any program that claims to emulate PS3 or 360 is a scam trying to steal something from you.

As a rule of thumb, you need about 30 times the processing power of the console you are trying to emulate. Playstation 2 emulation has just about peaked. PCSX2 is now in release stage and it plays just about everything fine.
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 21:44:24
November 13 2012 21:41 GMT
#4646
On November 14 2012 06:35 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 19:31 nanospartan wrote:
Are emulators for this gen consoles(360, PS3) viable and do they exist? I've been finding wildly different claims all over, just curious


Dont expect emulators until mid 2020's. Most groups arent even going to start looking into it for another 8 years or so.

Any program that claims to emulate PS3 or 360 is a scam trying to steal something from you.

As a rule of thumb, you need about 30 times the processing power of the console you are trying to emulate. Playstation 2 emulation has just about peaked. PCSX2 is now in release stage and it plays just about everything fine.

That said, a certain few 360 / PS3 titles are Taito Type X (X2, X3) ports. Probably most of these are games that most are not interested in, since they are arcade games, but Type X is just PC hardware running embedded Windows and can apparently run on PC hardware, no emulation required.

And if you want accurate emulation, bsnes was updated not too long ago with full coprocessor support. Took how long to get every SNES / SFC game working properly...? Check the hardware specs required compared to native hardware, too.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 22:01:02
November 13 2012 22:00 GMT
#4647
Yeah those dont count. Arcade games are the same as PC games now except they arent officially supported by PC as a platform. All you need to do is crack the game and rebuild the game. I do this with all IIDX games.

Im talking about titles that are console platform exclusive. PS3 and 360 won't have an emulator running the hardware in software mode for a very very long time.
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 22:16:06
November 13 2012 22:15 GMT
#4648
Yep, if the operating word is "emulation" than certainly that's not happening anytime soon. I don't even want to begin thinking about what would be required for emulating PS3 Cell architecture, making it actually work in real time... Good luck with that.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 22:56:11
November 13 2012 22:27 GMT
#4649
The modus operandi is being able to stick in a retail copy of a PS3 and Xbox 360 disc and having it work.

And thats true, getting the PS3's septocore working in an emulator is going to fun to watch.
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nanospartan
Profile Joined July 2011
649 Posts
November 14 2012 03:15 GMT
#4650
looks like i cant get halo 4 on pc :'(
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PhillyWild
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States59 Posts
November 14 2012 05:12 GMT
#4651
How do I remove an OS (ubuntu) from the boot sequence? I had it installed on this PC for a week before buying Windows 7, so as part of the installation process I erased the ubuntu partitions and reformatted the HDD but the boot information remains so every once in awhile when it boots it tries to load ubuntu instead of Windows and the computer freezes where I would have to reset and go into BIOS to manually select the C drive to boot Windows. I think I would have to change the "boot.ini" file but I want to make sure before I royally screw this up.
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Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
November 15 2012 00:07 GMT
#4652
I RMA'd my broken Gigabyte motherboard and recently got a response that the problem is not fixable, and they don't have any more of my model in stock (I had a GA-870A-UD3). They offered me a GA-970A-UD3 board as a replacement. So I checked the specifications of the 970A and it's compatible with the rest of my hardware.

I'm not really aware of the full scope of the motherboard's duty's for a computer, and given that the 970A is a more modern board, will my computer run faster than before?
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 02:15:19
November 15 2012 02:12 GMT
#4653
No faster. The motherboard (and chips / parts permanently attached to it) doesn't do much except hold and connect together the parts that actually matter like the CPU and GPU. The only real differences may come from features supported by the main northbridge / southbridge chipset used by the motherboard and then any third-party controllers—the latter for stuff like LAN, audio, USB3, etc., not even core functionality. And as for the chipsets, 870 and 970 are pretty much the same and both designed by AMD, so you're not even getting any auxiliary improvements like more expansion slot connectivity, different handling of anything.

edit: the 970A-UD3 might overclock a little bit better. In the very least, they put a heatsink on the MOSFETs used to supply CPU power, whereas the 870A-UD3 has them bare. If you were to overclock the CPU and end up with a different clock speed, that would result in a performance difference.
hiimian
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia3 Posts
November 15 2012 11:50 GMT
#4654
i have a problem whereby the my window keeps getting deselected every 10 seconds. it's happening to all my programs like chrome and microsoft word. it's especially annoying when im halfway through typing something and i have reclick on the window to refocus on it and continue typing. the window doesn't get minimised it stays the same but it's just not selected. i've tried scanning for malware with spybot and mcaffee but my comp keeps coming up as clean.

another issue im having is that my taskbar will popup when im streaming in full screen. the screen doesn't get minimised, it's just the taskbar shows up at the bottom of the screen. it only happens when im using a browser and doesn't occur if im using vlc or windows media player.

any help would be appreciated. thanks
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1843 Posts
November 16 2012 19:17 GMT
#4655
I don't think this warrants a new thread, but anyone have any tips of finding a new router? I've used a Linksys (don't know the exact model) for a while and it worked perfectly fine, but lately I started DC'ing all over the place and our Internet was going crazy. Cox is our ISP and is very reliable so I didn't think they were the problem, so I switched out the router for an Apple Base Station. The Apple router isn't dc'ing like the Linksys was, but it's really really slow. Youtube videos take ages to load, games play really slow, etc.

Like I said, Cox is our ISP. We have 3 computers running through wired connections that go to a switch that then goes to the router, and a few Laptops and a Nintendo Wii that all go through wireless. I was just hoping to pick one up at Best Buy that would be relatively cheap that would work well. I just want to play it safe to ensure I get one that won't lag me when I play a game or try to watch a video on Youtube.

FWIW, we have the high-speed premier package, which has 28 Mbps download and 5 Mbps upload. The internet speed isn't the problem at all, so not being able to watch a video on YouTube is a little bit ridiculous haha.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 17 2012 00:26 GMT
#4656
If the colors for positive and negative are not red/black which color(s) traditionally represent each? I have a blue/white and a green/white connector that I am not sure about.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 17 2012 00:39 GMT
#4657
Polarity only matters for the on/off and reset header, the rest is irrelevant. The common wire is negative, in this case - negative is white and positive is colored.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 17 2012 00:49 GMT
#4658
On November 17 2012 09:39 skyR wrote:
Polarity only matters for the on/off and reset header, the rest is irrelevant. The common wire is negative, in this case - negative is white and positive is colored.


Perfectionism has its price. I think the LED is just broken though because it doesn't light up for either setup unless I'm putting it on the wrong header
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
November 18 2012 02:14 GMT
#4659
question: recently I downloaded the sc2 client and it installed instantly, but I don't see a launcher?
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 02:57:23
November 18 2012 02:57 GMT
#4660
Has anyone used the Corsair h50?

How does the corsair h50 compare to the Hyper 212+ when both are used in the same configuration (same fans in same config, ie 2x yate loons in push/pull, etc). I'm aware the hyper 212+ is a great heatsink, please, dont tell me that, I have one.

And i dont need to hear about 'other' issues (water leaking, tower size, aesthetics), i think both look badass, theres ways to ensure a water leak never occurs, i dont care about weight straight on motherboard, etc.

Mainly just asking about anyone who's used the Corsair h50 AND hyper 212+. I have a chance to get the H50 for under $40, possibly $25-35. Do you think that's a good deal? I need a cpu hsf that's a step up from the hyper 212+, that's what I'm getting at. Basically, what's the best cpu cooler for under $40 (im aware the noctua d14 is better than the h50 and is the best air cooler, but its $60+ used, so no thanks).

And I dont care about fans, it's so stupid. I already have 10 fans, I will be just swapping the 2x yate loons on my hyper 212+ onto the h50 if i were to get it, or anything else. And reviews are terrible, they compare stock performance, like the h50 is better than the h70, but at stock the h70 is better because it comes with 2 fans that have higher CFM than the h50's single fan, but with equal configs, the h50 is better, et cetera. I already have 2 x 120mm fans for cpu cooling so its not like that would be a factor, whatever stock fans come with the system id just throw/sell them away anyways.
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