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On June 26 2012 03:34 TheToast wrote:It will probably run between medium to high settings, skewing more towards medium. I'm assuming you already own an AM3 motherboard? If not, there's really no reason to go AMD at the moment. But if you've already got the motherboard it may be worth it. Sort of depends on what you're upgrading from.
I currently have a AMD Phenom II X3 720 Processor (2.80 GHz). I'm looking to get 60 FPS Medium settings and maybe no less than 20 in large fights.
My GPU: Radeon HD 5770
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On June 26 2012 03:44 Kluey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 03:34 TheToast wrote:It will probably run between medium to high settings, skewing more towards medium. I'm assuming you already own an AM3 motherboard? If not, there's really no reason to go AMD at the moment. But if you've already got the motherboard it may be worth it. Sort of depends on what you're upgrading from. I currently have a AMD Phenom II X3 720 Processor (2.80 GHz). I'm looking to get 60 FPS Medium settings and maybe no less than 20 in large fights. My GPU: Radeon HD 5770
More cores won't help significantly in SC2, and the increase in clock speed on the same (outdated) architecture won't be a huge difference. It would be faster in high unit count scenarios, but still a lot slower than anything that's actually good.
http://www.techspot.com/review/305-starcraft2-performance/page13.html
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@Kluey
What motherboard do you have? The exact manufacturer and model. If it's decent, you'll get a lot more value for your money by buying some decent CPU cooling (~$30-60) and overclocking your CPU a moderate amount. It will cost much less than a Ph2 X4 while giving the same performance boost overall (you'll probably want to do a moderate ~3.5GHz OC or so).
Otherwise you're paying $120 (instead of $30-60) for the same [approximately 21%] performance boost (as the benchmark linked by Jingle shows, performance scales well in SC2 with clock speeds on many different platforms, but not with core counts above 2).
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On June 26 2012 03:54 Wabbit wrote:
@Kluey
What motherboard do you have? The exact manufacturer and model. If it's decent, you'll get a lot more value for your money by buying some decent CPU cooling (~$30-60) and overclocking your CPU a moderate amount. It will cost much less than a Ph2 X4 while giving the same performance boost overall (you'll probably want to do a moderate ~3.5GHz OC or so).
Otherwise you're paying $120 (instead of $30-60) for the same [approximately 21%] performance boost (as the benchmark linked by Jingle shows, performance scales well in SC2 with clock speeds on many different platforms, but not with core counts above 2).
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3478#ov
At the moment, I get sometimes 1 FPS late game and that's unplayable for me. The game is totally fine up until around 130 supply when your army starts to get large. Especially zergling armies, they lag the hell out of me.
If this processor would help me get to maybe 20 FPS late game, that's completely fine for me.
Thanks for the help by the way!
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On June 26 2012 04:01 Kluey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 03:54 Wabbit wrote:
@Kluey
What motherboard do you have? The exact manufacturer and model. If it's decent, you'll get a lot more value for your money by buying some decent CPU cooling (~$30-60) and overclocking your CPU a moderate amount. It will cost much less than a Ph2 X4 while giving the same performance boost overall (you'll probably want to do a moderate ~3.5GHz OC or so).
Otherwise you're paying $120 (instead of $30-60) for the same [approximately 21%] performance boost (as the benchmark linked by Jingle shows, performance scales well in SC2 with clock speeds on many different platforms, but not with core counts above 2). http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3478#ovAt the moment, I get sometimes 1 FPS late game and that's unplayable for me. The game is totally fine up until around 130 supply when your army starts to get large. Especially zergling armies, they lag the hell out of me. If this processor would help me get to maybe 20 FPS late game, that's completely fine for me. Thanks for the help by the way!
Oh, 1 FPS is not right. Your CPU should definitely be able to keep at least about 20 FPS assuming you're running at something like Medium settings and not with CPU settings on High or Ultra. I would try to fix this issue first before throwing money at the problem.
It could be that your hardware is overheating. Download CPUID HWMonitor and tell us your CPU and Video Card temperatures after you play some games and experience those symptoms.
After you fix that issue, you may be happy with how it performs, or you may still want a small upgrade to make the most out of your hardware. You can check your motherboard's BIOS and see what overclocking options it has. And you can then add an aftermarket heatsink as well as some mosfet heatsinks since your board has none. But first let's fix the issue without throwing money at it blindly.
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On June 26 2012 04:23 Wabbit wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 04:01 Kluey wrote:On June 26 2012 03:54 Wabbit wrote:
@Kluey
What motherboard do you have? The exact manufacturer and model. If it's decent, you'll get a lot more value for your money by buying some decent CPU cooling (~$30-60) and overclocking your CPU a moderate amount. It will cost much less than a Ph2 X4 while giving the same performance boost overall (you'll probably want to do a moderate ~3.5GHz OC or so).
Otherwise you're paying $120 (instead of $30-60) for the same [approximately 21%] performance boost (as the benchmark linked by Jingle shows, performance scales well in SC2 with clock speeds on many different platforms, but not with core counts above 2). http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3478#ovAt the moment, I get sometimes 1 FPS late game and that's unplayable for me. The game is totally fine up until around 130 supply when your army starts to get large. Especially zergling armies, they lag the hell out of me. If this processor would help me get to maybe 20 FPS late game, that's completely fine for me. Thanks for the help by the way! Oh, 1 FPS is not right. Your CPU should definitely be able to keep at least about 20 FPS assuming you're running at something like Medium settings and not with CPU settings on High or Ultra. I would try to fix this issue first before throwing money at the problem. It could be that your hardware is overheating. Download CPUID HWMonitor and tell us your CPU and Video Card temperatures after you play some games and experience those symptoms. After you fix that issue, you may be happy with how it performs, or you may still want a small upgrade to make the most out of your hardware. You can check your motherboard's BIOS and see what overclocking options it has. And you can then add an aftermarket heatsink as well as some mosfet heatsinks since your board has none. But first let's fix the issue without throwing money at it blindly.
I'm running low settings, even turning sound quality to low in attempt to take some load off the processor(lols). I'll run this monitor thing and share the results soon.
Could it also be that my hardware is simply malfunctioning? I've had this computer for about a year now and a few months ago, I could play nearly flawlessly.
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I have a question concerning my Monitor.
I have an Acer AL1916W (4years old) 1440x900 19", that nowadays just loses signal to the Computer for 5~30 seconds (sometimes it doesn't even regain the signal).
I bought a new VGA cable, however the problem persists.
My GPU is; ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series (3826Mb)
When I touch my screen (after it loses signal) it's really really hot.
When I check my GPU's Temperatures (via AIDA64) while playing Starcraft 2, WoW, DayZ, Combat Arms, Diablo (etc..), it reaches 90ºC. From what I've been told this GPU card can reach really high temperatures.
So, what's the problem here?
P.S: The computer works fine, except some frame loss issues in some SC2 games.
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Looks like your CPU is overheating. AMD specifies 73* C as the max temp so that coincides with your core temps hitting 72 and throttling to prevent damage: http://products.amd.com/(S(jook5gavharethih4zr5di45))/pages/desktopcpudetail.aspx?id=522
Make sure your stock heatsink is properly installed. It might be that it is slightly loose or something. Realistically you'd need to re-apply thermal paste, but you probably don't have a tube/packet laying around, so I'd just make sure it's clamped down properly while you order a new heatsink. Then again, if that case temp reading is accurate ("System" 48*C), that's concerning as well. 48 Celsius inside a case is really bad. Is it a prebuilt case?
Why new heatsink instead of just paste? Because you might as well, instead of spending ~$10 on a tube of paste, spend $35 on a heatsink that will last you long time and not sound like a leaf blower. What case do you have? If it's a half decent mid-tower with enough clearance, I'd grab a Scythe Mugen 3. There isn't really anything cheaper worth getting when this thing is $35 @ Canada Computers ($38 at NCIX) and performs really well at cooling and acceptable noise levels.
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Update: I went out and bought a AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHz processor. I tested SC2 on Medium settings before and after taking out the old processor which was a AMD Phenom II X3 720 Processor (2.80 GHz). Here's the results:
Keep in mind, the second image has chrome open in the background plus way more units!
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yRKOG.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sNHCX.jpg)
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been trying to set up a steam for a mac using Flash Media Live Encoder. Set everything up as recommended in this guide
http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2011/05/29/setting-up-desktop-streaming-on-mac-os-x/
when I hit connect it connects fine, but when I hit Start to begin a stream I get this log.
Mon Jun 25 2012 19:13:57 : Primary - Re-establishing connection, attempt 1
Mon Jun 25 2012 19:13:57 : Primary - Reconnected to FMS/3,5,7,7009
Mon Jun 25 2012 19:13:58 : Primary - Stream[live_5555555_xxxxxxxxx] Status: Success
Mon Jun 25 2012 19:13:58 : Primary - Stream[live_5555555_xxxxxxxxxx Status: NetStream.Publish.Rejected
Mon Jun 25 2012 19:13:58 : Primary - Network Status: NetConnection.Connect.Closed status
Mon Jun 25 2012 19:13:58 : Audio Encoding Stopped
Mon Jun 25 2012 19:13:58 : Video Encoding Stopped
Mon Jun 25 2012 19:13:58 : Session Stopped
Mon Jun 25 2012 19:14:03 : Primary - Disconnected
(stream key edited for obv reasons)
any ideas on what I did wrong?
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On June 26 2012 08:56 Kluey wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Update: I went out and bought a AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHz processor. I tested SC2 on Medium settings before and after taking out the old processor which was a AMD Phenom II X3 720 Processor (2.80 GHz). Here's the results: Keep in mind, the second image has chrome open in the background plus way more units!
I'm not even sure why you bothered asking for advice then. You could have gotten extremely similar results (18 fps min instead of 22) for free by just re-mounting the stock heatsink, or the same/better results for ~$50 instead of $120.
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On June 27 2012 00:32 Wabbit wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 08:56 Kluey wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Update: I went out and bought a AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHz processor. I tested SC2 on Medium settings before and after taking out the old processor which was a AMD Phenom II X3 720 Processor (2.80 GHz). Here's the results: Keep in mind, the second image has chrome open in the background plus way more units! I'm not even sure why you bothered asking for advice then. You could have gotten extremely similar results (18 fps min instead of 22) for free by just re-mounting the stock heatsink, or the same/better results for ~$50 instead of $120.
That was a very silly move 
Money down a hole. 22 FPS is frown town.
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On June 26 2012 08:56 Kluey wrote:
Update: I went out and bought a AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHz processor. I tested SC2 on Medium settings before and after taking out the old processor which was a AMD Phenom II X3 720 Processor (2.80 GHz). Here's the results:
You know, if you have no intention of taking the advice being offered, you're just wasting everyone's time--including your own.
And PS, you probably just wasted $120 for absolutely no reason.
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I think he saw the perfectly rational and well put questions by Wabbit, panicked, and threw money at the problem.
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On June 27 2012 00:59 Medrea wrote:
I think he saw the perfectly rational and well put questions by Wabbit, panicked, and threw money at the problem.
Nah, I'm going with a standard case of "In my mind, free of any actual knowledge to hamper my decision, this is the best possible route to take, so I should ignore all advice to the contrary and do what I'd already decided to do. The question was only in a hope to get people to tell me how smart I am." Syndrome. Better known as "IMMFOAAKTHMDTITBPRTTSISIAATTCADWIADTDTQWOIAHTGPTTMHSIA" Syndrome. Acronym slightly unpronounceable.
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The first half of that acronym was going quite well.
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If someone could help me over skype/teamviewer to setup my stream it would be greatly appreaciated. My setup atm:
CPU: i72600k OC at 44Ghz
Ram: 16 gigs not sure how many Mhz(think its 1800)
Gpu: 2 x gti 480 SLI
Internet is 40/10 on speedtest.net
But still whatever resolution i have with 30 Fps it's still lagging
Edit: Using xsplit with Twitch.tv btw
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Do you get shitty framerates the moment you open up xsplit? Like before you even start streaming?
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EPT
