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I like the last one, the other are a bit blah
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The Silverstone Raven and the Fortress are excellent silent cases with solid cooling. For multi-GPU and an OC, those can both be really good features.
I believe the Fortress is supposed to be the better of the two.
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ive got the fortress, i think the difference is its steel/aluminium whereas the raven is steel/plastic. doesnt really matter, i think both of them are heavy as fuck though
id probably go with the rv03, looks so neat
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The Fortress is a great case. I think you should go with this one.
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my new build revolved around the FT02B-W case, and i couldn't be happier! the case is HUGE, cable management is very well thought out, and the design of the airflow is amazing. if you are going to fork over the big bucks for the last case you ever buy...do it the right way.
Fortress Series FT02B
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Go with Corsair, they make solid cases and Iv enjoyed my builds i have used with them.
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You didn't mention what you were looking for in a case, aside from it being hella expensive.
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On June 07 2011 00:08 a176 wrote:
You didn't mention what you were looking for in a case, aside from it being hella expensive.
Judging by the build, I think that's the priority.
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Question: What are you looking for? max performance, silence? a good balance between them? are you going to be taking the pc to LANs? Any other peripherials that have a certain color/style that you would like to maintain?
I know im missing some, but unless you give us that kinda of info, you are basicly asking us "what do you like?"
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If you're running air cooling, don't get the Corsair 800D. The other three are much better in that regard. If you like the aesthetics of the RV03, uh, it should be good enough and cheaper? Or maybe the goal was to spend more money lol.
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Just looking for the best cooling, since it will likely be running hot with two huge cards
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All of the listed Silverstone cases are excellent air coolers. Multi-GPU does run hot, but generally not too insanely so, the issue you pick up is usually more sounding like a helicopter in a hurricane from keeping the cards cool.
Ambient temperature is huge in multi-GPU, as is motherboard, that particular MSI model politely gives multiple slots between the PCIE, which gives you at least some room for airflow.
Obviously, a lot of that depends on the cooler present on the particular card. www.silentpcreview.com is good for noise related stuff.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article75-page5.html
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The first one.
The Corsair 800D, is absolutely the BEST case out there hands down. Super ergonomic, with holes cut into the motherboard try for routing cables.
Plenty of fan slots. You cannot go wrong with the 800D.
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^ Really?
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/corsair_obsidian_800d/6
When it came to testing it became apparent very quickly that the case was suffocating, there just wasn't enough cool air getting into the case to cool the parts. GPU's rely on cool air blowing over them to help keep the volcano of heat inside cool. The only intake was from the bottom blowing up wards, which in the Silverstone Raven with the GPU mounted vertically this works very well, but in the Corsair the cool air (what there is of it) completely misses the GPU's all together and the temperatures reflect this. Ill admit I'm no F1 aerodynamics expert, but surely if its so obvious to me what the problem is how did this case get this far, its a bit late to be changing things now. After a simple fan change and a slight rethink of the airflow pattern to get more air into the case the temperatures plummeted, there definitely wasn't enough air getting into the case but I think that its 50% design flaw and 50% that the fans provided were designed to be quiet rather than actually move much air. Once the changes were made the case performed much better against the 'High Air Flow' 922.
So for £229.99 you get a very tough and well designed case, thats going to look very sleek on any ones desk. But be prepared to spend another £20-£30 buying different fans if you are planning on running an air cooled system inside. I really think this case was designed all along to be a water cooled case with the H50 in the back of the case pulling cool air in because then as the tests have shown it performs much better.
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On June 07 2011 13:21 JingleHell wrote:^ Really? http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/corsair_obsidian_800d/6Show nested quote +When it came to testing it became apparent very quickly that the case was suffocating, there just wasn't enough cool air getting into the case to cool the parts. GPU's rely on cool air blowing over them to help keep the volcano of heat inside cool. The only intake was from the bottom blowing up wards, which in the Silverstone Raven with the GPU mounted vertically this works very well, but in the Corsair the cool air (what there is of it) completely misses the GPU's all together and the temperatures reflect this. Ill admit I'm no F1 aerodynamics expert, but surely if its so obvious to me what the problem is how did this case get this far, its a bit late to be changing things now. After a simple fan change and a slight rethink of the airflow pattern to get more air into the case the temperatures plummeted, there definitely wasn't enough air getting into the case but I think that its 50% design flaw and 50% that the fans provided were designed to be quiet rather than actually move much air. Once the changes were made the case performed much better against the 'High Air Flow' 922.
So for £229.99 you get a very tough and well designed case, thats going to look very sleek on any ones desk. But be prepared to spend another £20-£30 buying different fans if you are planning on running an air cooled system inside. I really think this case was designed all along to be a water cooled case with the H50 in the back of the case pulling cool air in because then as the tests have shown it performs much better.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/Obsidian_800D/6.html
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/corsair_obsidian_800d
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1036/1/
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/2897/corsair_obsidian_800d_full_tower_chassis/index.html
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/884
I think the general consensus that the case is fantastic. Perhaps more testing with numbers needs to be done like your review has it.
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All the reviews that tested 800D temperatures with stock fans were very disappointed, especially considering the cost. Features, size, appearance, workmanship, etc., may all be very good, which is why the case is reviewed well when they don't look at temperatures. I'm not sure if I want to find the other ones, but the point stands. The OP is looking for the best cooling (presumably not watercooling).
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The general consensus is that it's a case with a nice look and easy to build in. Half of those "reviews" have liquid cooling setups in them, and none of them actually tested it.
Those aren't useful reviews.
The HAF 922 that smokes it so badly in the one I linked for air cooling is only $100.
@Myrm: If he wants to spend that much on a case for cooling performance, it's reasonable to assume he means air, yes, since there's way cheaper cases that you can stuff plumbing into.
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Do not buy the Corsair because it does not have adequate cooling for the hardware you are putting in it. It will lower the life of your parts if nothing else. The other 3 have several fans so you are safe with any of those.
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On June 07 2011 13:49 KomradeKevin wrote:
Do not buy the Corsair because it does not have adequate cooling for the hardware you are putting in it. It will lower the life of your parts if nothing else. The other 3 have several fans so you are safe with any of those.
That's an understatement. With a decent OC on his CPU and the GPU's, he could leave one of his 5.25 bays open to use as an Easy Bake Oven.
The other 3 are all solid air coolers, and decent on noise.
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I like the HAF series for cases. Amazing functionally. Best bang for your buck. I recommend either the HAF 922 or the HAF X 942.
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On June 07 2011 13:52 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 13:49 KomradeKevin wrote:
Do not buy the Corsair because it does not have adequate cooling for the hardware you are putting in it. It will lower the life of your parts if nothing else. The other 3 have several fans so you are safe with any of those. That's an understatement. With a decent OC on his CPU and the GPU's, he could leave one of his 5.25 bays open to use as an Easy Bake Oven. The other 3 are all solid air coolers, and decent on noise.
Ahh, that's probably why. My friend got an 800D, he probably transplanted all his fans from his old case, and he does run an H70.
Damn. Now I'm reconsidering whether I should get one or not as I need to build a new machine soon.
Good call yo.
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On June 07 2011 14:24 echO [W] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 13:52 JingleHell wrote:On June 07 2011 13:49 KomradeKevin wrote:
Do not buy the Corsair because it does not have adequate cooling for the hardware you are putting in it. It will lower the life of your parts if nothing else. The other 3 have several fans so you are safe with any of those. That's an understatement. With a decent OC on his CPU and the GPU's, he could leave one of his 5.25 bays open to use as an Easy Bake Oven. The other 3 are all solid air coolers, and decent on noise. Ahh, that's probably why. My friend got an 800D, he probably transplanted all his fans from his old case, and he does run an H70. Damn. Now I'm reconsidering whether I should get one or not as I need to build a new machine soon. Good call yo.
if you wanna stick with corsair, why not get the 650d? or the 600t and buy the new side panel thingy and stick 4 12cm fans in it lol
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wow those are all kinda expensive. I like pretty much all the higher end cooler master cases. (i have a cosmos and i like it alot. super quiet and when i had air cooling was good flow. I now use liquid cooling so its a tad heavy. not the best for carrying around to LANs
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Yeah I have an 800D personally and it was definitely meant to be running water cooling. The top vents are where you're supposed to put the radiator. The circuit is supposed to run on your cpu and gpu's.
Also this case is a HEAVY bastard. Its so massive and heavy its NOT supposed to go to lans. Apart from that its served me very very very well. I wouldn't change anything on it except the LED's on the front (fking bright as hell).
You need really really long PSU cables in order to reach the motherboard properly. I had to get extended cables to get everything to fit and it even came with an extended cable for the 12V.
Hotswapping out harddrives in the front is soooo convenient and nice.
Did I mention the fact that this beast is MASSIVE? yeah its massive (I could fit my old case inside of this if i took out the cages and innards)
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@tsmitho
The Ravens and Fortress are expensive for a reason, they're amazingly well engineered cases for both noise and thermal performance with solid build quality and good features.
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i would get an NZXT case just because they look amazing (most of them anyway)
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On June 08 2011 02:33 jstocky14 wrote:
i would get an NZXT case just because they look amazing (most of them anyway)
Didja know looks are subjective, whereas acoustic and thermal performance aren't?
He wants an air cooler, some of NZXT's cases fall flat there (H2, for example, being way too hot), and he may not like the looks.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4347/nzxt-h2-not-quite-quiet/7
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holy shit, cases are expensive :3 but next time i build a pc i wont pick a cheep one too <:
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On June 08 2011 02:49 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
holy shit, cases are expensive :3 but next time i build a pc i wont pick a cheep one too <:
No no no. Really high performance cases are expensive. You can get a decent case for much less, depending on specific features you want, it's just that if you want a quiet case with good air cooling, or some specific style, gimmick, or feature, you end up paying out the ass.
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i'm a huge fan of the Coolermaster CM690 II Advanced. In my opinion it is the best cheap case there is.
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Have you considered the NZXT Phantom? Looks pretty boss :D
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Cases are a personal preference. Go for whatever that seems aesthetically appealing to you.
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Gotta agree with uber, Antec cases are really good. I own two p180's and they are just terrific cases, built well, designed even better. Oh and not to mention, super-cool.
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I would have a serious consideration of the Fractal Design R3! It's a great case if you only have that much tech to go inside of it, and gives you a decent amount of room for potential expansion
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