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Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
May 18 2011 08:23 GMT
#21
uh the .gif that was posted is NOT how your game would look at 16:10.

sc2 supports 16:10 resolutions and the game will fill up your screen just fine.




16:10 is the clear winner in my eyes. The only thing I've ever encountered that would may a 16 better was FME/FMLE (adobe's video encoder for streaming) didn't have support for 16:10. but thats more a fault on their part[It may have been added now, this was months ago). and It's also fixed by using an alternative streaming program such as xsplit.
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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 08:51:00
May 18 2011 08:39 GMT
#22
well i have a 16/10 monitor but play on a 16/9 resolution.

No problems for me at all.
Kr1pos
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway67 Posts
May 18 2011 09:01 GMT
#23
On May 18 2011 17:23 Agh wrote:
uh the .gif that was posted is NOT how your game would look at 16:10.

sc2 supports 16:10 resolutions and the game will fill up your screen just fine.

The point of the gif is not the black bars but rather how you can see more of the map with 16 : 9 over 16 : 10 (and 4:3). The reason you see black bars in the gif is because the gif-frame is 16 : 9.
Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 09:05:57
May 18 2011 09:05 GMT
#24
On May 18 2011 17:23 Agh wrote:
uh the .gif that was posted is NOT how your game would look at 16:10.

sc2 supports 16:10 resolutions and the game will fill up your screen just fine.

That gif is EXACTLY how your game would look at 16:10. It has nothing to do with the screen being "filled up", it's about how much of the map you can see at one time on a single screen.

If you have an old 4:3 monitor and play SC2, you will get to see much less at once than a person using a 16 : 9 monitor. The 16 : 9 player will get to see and control things on the edges of his screen that would not be visible on-screen if you're using a 4:3 monitor.

The same is true for a 16:10 monitor. You will get to see slightly less on screen than someone using 16 : 9. This slight difference is important to pro gamers, but probably not important at all to the vast majority of players.

I personally have a 16:10 monitor, it's great for most games and better for web browsing since there's more vertical real estate. I use a 16 : 9 resolution for SC2 and have black bars on my screen (and the same is true for TV shows and movies), but this is really only a small drawback to me.
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1482 Posts
May 18 2011 09:42 GMT
#25
Id recomend u get a 32 inch tv :D (if you are thinking of a 24" monitor). Depends on budget ofc.

About the aspect ratio, id go for 16/10 i think.
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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 09:55:17
May 18 2011 09:52 GMT
#26
By the way, 16/9 100% shows more than 16/10.

I have done numerous printscreens to test this. It's not a giant difference like 4/3 to 16/9 but it's there.

Here are my printscreens:

16:10
[image loading]

16/9

[image loading]

But like I said, I have a 16/10 monitor and play SC2 on 16/9. It all looks fine anyway, as you can see.

FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 10:12:58
May 18 2011 10:11 GMT
#27
16:10 allways better, you see more when browsing or doing desktop stuff and better in games too. I have 30" 2560x1600 res. Games scale very good.
FeiLing
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany428 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 10:30:02
May 18 2011 10:25 GMT
#28
On May 18 2011 18:05 Chocobo wrote:
The same is true for a 16:10 monitor. You will get to see slightly less on screen than someone using 16 : 9. This slight difference is important to pro gamers, but probably not important at all to the vast majority of players.


It's actually so important to progamers, that on the intel extreme world championship or whatever (event in germany some months ago) you could see a few progamers playing (filmed by a backstage guy). What you saw was: They only had 4:3 monitors there. Most pro's were playing in 4:3 resolution. Except for idra, who set the resolution on the 4:3 screen they had to 16 : 9. People probably were laughing at him for having half of the screen black, but he did the right thing, seeing more than anyone else. Most progamers don't seem to have much of a clue about computers

edit) more on topic: 16:10 for sure. Grab one before they extinct (16 : 9s are more profitable for manufacturers, which is why 16:10 screens are rare today). It's advantagous in absolutely every situation apart from SC2, where you just run it with a 16 : 9 resolutioon instead. The small black bars on top and bottom then (in SC2) don't matter at all... actually it kinda looks good/classy :D
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 18 2011 10:29 GMT
#29
On May 18 2011 19:25 FeiLing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 18:05 Chocobo wrote:
The same is true for a 16:10 monitor. You will get to see slightly less on screen than someone using 16 : 9. This slight difference is important to pro gamers, but probably not important at all to the vast majority of players.


It's actually so important to progamers, that on the intel extreme world championship or whatever (event in germany some months ago) you could see a few progamers playing (filmed by a backstage guy). What you saw was: They only had 4:3 monitors there. Most pro's were playing in 4:3 resolution. Except for idra, who set the resolution on the 4:3 screen they had to 16. People probably were laughing at him for having half of the screen black, but he did the right thing, seeing more than anyone else. Most progamers don't seem to have much of a clue about computers


Uhm, to be fair, it could have been a conscious decision made between having such a small viewing area throwing off their mousing vs having a slightly smaller visible area of the map as well.
SlapMySalami
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
May 18 2011 10:33 GMT
#30
to preface this i have 0 experience with monitors and what is actually the right answer or best answer but i will tell you my experience

i have a 16:10 monitor and i say get a 16 monitor. when i went to stream i had problems with a few programs that fed my screen to FMLE.. they had a 16 resolution but no 16:10.. i could ofc run my program at 16 but it wouldnt look as pretty and isnt optimized
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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
May 18 2011 10:42 GMT
#31
Question:

How do you set 16/9 on a 16:10 monitor and having the black bars?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 18 2011 10:47 GMT
#32
On May 18 2011 19:42 Psychobabas wrote:
Question:

How do you set 16/9 on a 16:10 monitor and having the black bars?


Change resolution to a 16: 9 resolution. A chart.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
May 18 2011 10:55 GMT
#33
no I mean, how do you get the black bars? Is it windowed mode?
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 10:56:48
May 18 2011 10:56 GMT
#34
Why would you want black bars? Enjoy the bigger res.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 10:59:16
May 18 2011 10:58 GMT
#35
On May 18 2011 17:23 Agh wrote:
uh the .gif that was posted is NOT how your game would look at 16:10.

sc2 supports 16:10 resolutions and the game will fill up your screen just fine.




16:10 is the clear winner in my eyes. The only thing I've ever encountered that would may a 16 better was FME/FMLE (adobe's video encoder for streaming) didn't have support for 16:10. but thats more a fault on their part[It may have been added now, this was months ago). and It's also fixed by using an alternative streaming program such as xsplit.

You're wrong. Yes, it does support it, yes it will be fullscreen, that GIF shows the viewing angle of each resolution. You SEE more with 16 : 9 over 16 : 10 .

OP, I would buy a 16 : 10 monitor, and just run a scaling mode from your drivers when playing starcraft (nvidia scaling on nvidia). This will cause resolutions in 16 : 9 to run in 16 : 9 and not stretch, leaving small black bars at the top and bottom. Allowing you to have a large PC resolution, which is nice for things like internet browsing, but still get the viewing angle in starcraft without any stretching or distortions.
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Hrwa
Profile Joined August 2010
Croatia147 Posts
May 18 2011 10:59 GMT
#36
On May 18 2011 19:42 Psychobabas wrote:
Question:

How do you set 16/9 on a 16:10 monitor and having the black bars?


On my ATI card I had to enable GPU image scaling and set it to maintain aspect ratio.
Then just select 16/9 resolution in SC2.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11562 Posts
May 18 2011 11:02 GMT
#37
16 is much cheaper

unless you are buying an IPS panel for actual productive work, 16 is the way to go.
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Dugrok
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada377 Posts
May 18 2011 12:34 GMT
#38
On May 18 2011 14:22 cz wrote:
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On May 18 2011 14:16 enemy2010 wrote:
[image loading]

16 : 9


But you can run a 16 ratio on a 16:10 screen (thus not losing SC viewing advantage), just requires some black bars on top/bottom. If it's between say a 24" 1920x1200 or 24" 1920x1080, I'd go for the x1200 16:10 one, just for the extra resolution in general. That would have a larger pixel density though.

So you're basically saying to buy a 16: 10 but not make use it as a 16: 9? Doesn't sound very useful to me...
Poobah
Profile Joined February 2010
England91 Posts
May 18 2011 12:36 GMT
#39
I prefer 16:10 by far. It's much easier on the eyes.
This above all: to thine own self be true
OldBamboo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States42 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 13:19:08
May 18 2011 13:16 GMT
#40
I have a 16:10 monitor.

SC2 runs fine, full screen. I don't have those black bars on the side, as depicted in the GIF on the first page.

If I watch a widescreen video, I have black bars at the top and bottom of my screen.

I don't see any advantage in having a 16 : 10 monitor. I'm probably going to buy a 16 : 9 monitor next time around, just because I prefer not to have the black bars framing my screen when I'm watching video.

Edit: those emoticons are annoying.
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