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First off, here is a nice description of mouse gripping preferences if interested. Also, I must preface that someone very nice gave me $100 for my birthday to get a good gaming mouse for SC2. I need to pick it out soon and after much research I still feel like I'm having quite a delima:
Basically I've used the 'Logitech Anywhere MX' mouse for over a year, and regardless if it's good or not I'm quite use to its form. Its size and weight is:
• Dimensions: (L x W x H) : 90.5 x 63.0 x 34.5 millimeters
• Weight: 125 grams with 2 AA batteries
I personally like the legnth and also the form of the Anywhere MX for the most part. I dislike the weight (feels a bit too heavy to me in longer matches), and the narrow front of the mouse (or lack of comfortable place to rest my ring finger) also causes this terrible habit of resting my middle finger on the wheel even though I always use that finger for r-click and have to move it constatly, like this:
![[image loading]](http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz186/awol2oslo/IMG_0767.jpg)
Ideally the main things I'm looking for are:
• Nothing heavier than 125grams, prefferably lighter.
• Corded, no batteries, and a decent sensor on it (I havent read much if laser vs optical makes any difference for RTS games, but its not my main concern).
• Wider buttons than the Anywhere MX (atleast in the front)
• Legnth of 90-110mm (so it's not hitting my palm or base of my thumb - I like to pivot with my wrist on that "money bone" as Day9 calls it, haha). How I hold my mouse now:
http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz186/awol2oslo/IMG_0768.jpg
I've read the entirety of the 'what mouse do you guys use nowadays?' thread and also alot of other research (some leading back to teamliquid forums too!). That said I've narrowed it down to:
Logitech G9x
MyPros: similar parts may feel familiar, roughly similar form. Legnth: 105mm
Cons: Not sure of its base weight, most reliable thing I've come across says 115g with the grip and no weights (which doesnt seem bad). Also, if you own it, hows the button width for you?
Cyborg R.A.T. 7
Pros: most adjustable dimensions, and I like the idea of the pinkey rest
Cons: I've heard it's heavy and I cant find any weight info for it without the weights, or any reliable minimum Legnth info for it. Can it be used without the palm rest and/or threaded tool/spring on the back? And does anyone know its minimum legnth or base weight?
Razer Salmosa
Pros: looks comfortable for fingertip grip. wide buttons. really weighs only 52grams?!
Cons: doesnt look in production, might have hard time getting new/good shape one.
Also: 115mm Legnth, thats right around where i wouldnt want it longer, not sure if it'd hit my palm or not.
Razer Spectre
Pros: 100mm Legnth, wide buttons, says "lightweight" though I dont readily have the grams amount.
Cons: I've heard the laser is jittery
SteelSeries Xai
Pros: Looks like all around amazing mouse. 98grams weight. nice form. Originally was going to get this one.
Cons: after all my research I'm concerned the way I hold my mouse would be uncomfortable switching to the Xai and with 125mm legnth may bump my palm and/or make it feel like I dont have as much fingertip control.
This may seem super specific (trying to be descriptive as possible in what I'm looking for) and after typing this all up I'm feeling really overly picky lol. But I know I may not be able to get a mouse this expensive for a long time and certainly wont be able to try any out before I buy.
Thank you very much in advance for any input, I wish I had time to make this a more definitive thread for fingertip grippers/fingertip friendly mice, but I need to make my choice real soon! Thanks again,
Infinite
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CHoosing a mouse isn't rocket science either you get something you're used to if you want exactly the kind of mouse that ure used to or just get sum mouse which has all the properties you need
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^ wrong choosing the mouse and your specificity is admirable.
i too understand the importance of those requests and i think i can help you
light mice
sidewinder and most microsoft mice
most steelseries mice (not those corny mmo mice)
middle of the pond weight
rat7
razer mice
heavy mice
most logitech mice tend to be heavy
size wise
the g9 is VERY small very very small
the xai is long but it works and you shouldnt be worried about it hitting your palm but you should be worried about its multi side buttons which imo ruin a mouse for a right hander
the rat 7
mixed feelings about the mouse, i owned it and returned it because the side buttons are tooooo far back for me. im very picky but that being said the mouse feels great and i tend to choose larger mice. it also will fit smaller hands so its a good pick. the adjustments are "ok" they are nothing like they should be for a mouse marketed to be "the most customizable mouse in history"
my rat mouse rant aside
your mouse should be a razer deathadder. its light but not TOO light and its not too large and the curve is towards the middle so your palm tends to be JUST above hitting it which some like (i happen not to) only problem i have is it is not wide enough pinky area wise for me but if you pref that then get a sidewinder
im currently going through a mouse crisis and have bought around 10 mice now and had to return them all (cant get used to anything but my sidewinder. i think its a hardware issue but i digress) so as far as that goes you can trust my stats
hope this helps
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added some smaller mice you may want to check out
cm spawn
nova slider 600 which is an EU company but its really nice tho the buttons are not the best for what you want but fit your reqs for feel
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On March 23 2011 19:31 DERPDERP wrote:
CHoosing a mouse isn't rocket science either you get something you're used to if you want exactly the kind of mouse that ure used to or just get sum mouse which has all the properties you need
awe, but DERPERP, I dont want to buy another Anywhere MX mouse; and I dont think any of the above has all the properties I'm looking for; which is two of three reasons why I made this organized post in an attempt to find out which one may be closest to what I'm looking for...in the eyes of other fingertip grippers who may even own one of the above mice.
You see?
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Holy cow, thanks for all that info Greenx! Really appreciate it ill have to look up those ones you mentioned in the morning. Someone else recommended the DA to me too.
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Logitech G9x without any grips
Asian Razer Salmosa (the original is quite large)
Razer Abyssus
Logitech LMO or G1
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I would recommend the razer abyssus, it is the mouse I use, not too long, incredibly sensitive buttons, no crazy macro hotkeys etc, just a really really good, reliable mouse that is quite light and very comfortable to use for touch grip
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I'm actually in the same position as you. I fingertip grip and my g9x broke down last Monday (as I was trying to ladder before lockdown, grumble), so I was in the market for a new mouse. I have pretty small asian hands, so I was more concerned about dimensions than weight. Here's the short list off my whiteboard:
Name - (width/depth/height, mm) - weight (w/ cord if available)
Logitech g9x (w/ precision grip) - 73x108x35 - 153g
Steelseries Kinzu - 64x117x36 - 104g
CM Storm Spawn - 75x110x35 - 142g
Razer Abyssus - 63x115x40 - ?
Zowie ec1 - 58-65x120x40 - ?
I couldn't find a place in the US to order a storm spawn and the abyssus doesn't have side buttons (which are a nice not-playing-starcraft convenience for me). So now I have a kinzu coming in the mail that should be here tomorrow. If it doesn't work work out, I'll return it and try an ec1 or (more likely) just order another g9x.
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Own a g9x, button width is not an issue for me. everything is easy to reach, including the thumb and dpi changing buttons, scroll wheel button is stiffer than most mice though. Not bad enough to discount it, it hasnt hindered my play at all. Used to use a logitech wireless m305, which is even smaller, so the logitech feels big to me lol. I claw/fingertip grip and it's perfect, if you want it even smaller the precision grip(usually not pictured in promos) is smaller height and width wise, and without any shell at all Is probably one of the smallest high end mice you can buy.
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Thanks for all the input so far you guys.
That CM Spawn to me looks close to the exactly the type of form I'd like. Does anyone own/use that one for SC2, and if so, does it feel heavy after long games (at 142g)?
The G9x is still tempting me because the size/form seems great, and it's sold in the US. but 153g sounds like the heaviest one of them all (this could be alot better with a wire holder possibly?). I'll have to check what the performance grip and no-grip looks like.
Funny enough that Razer Abyssus seems really workable, 115m Legnth and @$49.99 I could get a new mouse pad also. Does anyone happen to have this ones weight?
After checking one the Zowie EC1 and DeathAdder and seeing theyre each 128mm Legnth I'll probably steer away from those personally, just 'cause how grip (although I'm open to input from finger tip grippers who use 125mm+ Legnth mice).
The Steelseries Kinzu now has my full attention. 77g weight (104g with wire) and 117mm legnth. Kambing please report back how that works out!
I'll prolly have to decide in the next day or two which one I want, but this thread's now making me want one of each haha. Have a good one everybody, thx again for the input.
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I use razer abyssus, ret also uses and says it's awesome mouse 
This mouse is very small and super light - it slides on goliathus control super easy. It's very precise and perfect for BW or SC2. And the most important - the price is very low compared to other mices.
For me it isn't very comfortable, but I never used finger grip mices before so I can't compare.
Overall I really recommend this cheap mice. Weight is ~52g I think.
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I paid $30 for my abyssus on amazon. Don't know the specific weight but it's the lightest mouse I've used that wasn't one of those miniature laptop mice.
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I have an abyssus no idea what the weight is but it is definitely lighter then a mx518.
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On March 24 2011 03:16 Infinite976 wrote:
The G9x is still tempting me because the size/form seems great, and it's sold in the US. but 153g sounds like the heaviest one of them all (this could be alot better with a wire holder possibly?). I'll have to check what the performance grip and no-grip looks like.
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The Steelseries Kinzu now has my full attention. 77g weight (104g with wire) and 117mm legnth. Kambing please report back how that works out!
The g9x without a grip is very small. It was a little too small, even for my taste. The precision grip was perfect (and the other, fatter grip was bad).
The other thing to note if you are considering using a g9x without a grip is that the side buttons of the g9x are very small and are flush against the body of the mouse (instead of protruding out like a regular button). This is because the side buttons were designed to be pressed by the plastic nubs on the grips instead of pressed directly by the user. So if you use the side buttons extensively, it can be annoying to use them on a grip-less g9x.
And don't worry, I'll be sure to let you know tomorrow. My biggest worry is that the extra height of the kinzu will place the mouse back/top of the mouse into the middle of my palm (so my grip ends up being more claw- or palm-like). I find that to be the most uncomfortable feeling in the world when I'm doing anything mouse-intensive.
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^the grip thing for the G9x is all subjective. I, for one, enjoy the fat grip. the thin grip is ok, but a bit too narrow for my fingers and I dislike the texture. So for the OP, all I can say is that between the 3 options you're bound to find one that fits you reasonably well.
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On March 24 2011 03:24 Alpina wrote:I use razer abyssus, ret also uses and says it's awesome mouse This mouse is very small and super light - it slides on goliathus control super easy. It's very precise and perfect for BW or SC2. And the most important - the price is very low compared to other mices. For me it isn't very comfortable, but I never used finger grip mices before so I can't compare. Overall I really recommend this cheap mice. Weight is ~52g I think.
Wow 52gs? I've been on my MS Wheel Mouse Optical since forever primarily b/c of its combination of balance and lightweight. My main concern with Razer's is durability. I.e. can it last 8-10 years the same way MS hardware does?
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On March 24 2011 06:21 mav451 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 03:24 Alpina wrote:I use razer abyssus, ret also uses and says it's awesome mouse This mouse is very small and super light - it slides on goliathus control super easy. It's very precise and perfect for BW or SC2. And the most important - the price is very low compared to other mices. For me it isn't very comfortable, but I never used finger grip mices before so I can't compare. Overall I really recommend this cheap mice. Weight is ~52g I think. Wow 52gs? I've been on my MS Wheel Mouse Optical since forever primarily b/c of its combination of balance and lightweight. My main concern with Razer's is durability. I.e. can it last 8-10 years the same way MS hardware does?
I'm pretty sure that 52g without cord. That's why my table above doesn't include some weights because I couldn't find weights for those mice that took the cord into account (just for consistency's sake; most of the stats included the cord).
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