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KJH
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia199 Posts
December 13 2010 08:44 GMT
#1
hello guys,

I just picked up my new sc2 mouse. It seemed to look fine, but my real worry is that,
It would move slightly when im in stationary position to click. Now i dont think it would effect my gaming that much, but im sure this would deter my accuracy. I've installed all the drivers and tried different mouse mats(currently using razer destructor) and still it moves alittle side to side when i click in stationary position. If any other spectre owners have this flaw, please let me know how to get around it.
http://www.twitch.tv/kjhkangers
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
December 13 2010 08:46 GMT
#2
Did you try different mouse pads ? or surfaces to see if it still occurs
KJH
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia199 Posts
December 13 2010 08:47 GMT
#3
i dont think you've read the OP properly,,,
http://www.twitch.tv/kjhkangers
RoK Ot7Er
Profile Joined June 2010
United States219 Posts
December 13 2010 08:51 GMT
#4
Razer mice seem to have this fault sometimes. The Mamba had this problem for a while, but they fixed it with a driver update within a few months after it was released

I would triple check that you've updated to the latest drivers. Apart from that I can't help you much D:
eXellenty
Profile Joined September 2010
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 09:03:01
December 13 2010 08:53 GMT
#5
(at 0:40)

the sensor just sucks...

edit: i hope you can get your money back
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TheGiftedApe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1243 Posts
December 13 2010 09:08 GMT
#6
have you turned off mouse acceleration in all your mouse settings?
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KJH
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia199 Posts
December 13 2010 09:12 GMT
#7
yes i have turned off mouse acceleration
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IntoTheBush
Profile Joined July 2010
United States552 Posts
December 13 2010 09:29 GMT
#8
ouch. sorry to hear that youre having a problem.. Hope you can contact Razer and they will refund your $$$
KJH
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia199 Posts
December 13 2010 10:06 GMT
#9
On December 13 2010 18:29 IntoTheBush wrote:
ouch. sorry to hear that youre having a problem.. Hope you can contact Razer and they will refund your $$$


well i'd hope so lol
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IamAnton
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada335 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 10:08:46
December 13 2010 10:08 GMT
#10
its just the dpi is too high, some people dont realize even when simply clicking that they move the mouse a bit by mistake and with super high dpi its a noticeable movement. i also have the spectre and its totally fine.
"Man created God in his own image." - Ludwig Feuerbach
KJH
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia199 Posts
December 13 2010 10:18 GMT
#11
On December 13 2010 19:08 IamAnton wrote:
its just the dpi is too high, some people dont realize even when simply clicking that they move the mouse a bit by mistake and with super high dpi its a noticeable movement. i also have the spectre and its totally fine.

nope, i have left it on default 1800dpi, I also have a mini salmosa with 1800 dpi and has no problems
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vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 11:40:54
December 13 2010 11:40 GMT
#12
Phillips Twin Eye strikes again...

The high DPI isn't the problem, its the shitty sensor Razer use in their laser mice. I can use 5600 DPI on my Logitech mouse on a soft mouse pad and I get no jitter or Z-Axis lift off problems. On my PTE mice I get the problems you describe.

Avago > PTE.

I would return it if you still can, if you can't just consider it a lesson learned like I did with mine

The reason you don't get the problem with the Salmosa is that it uses an Avago sensor and not PTE.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AosJbEwEG9GpdEpBMGc1ZXo0S3BLQm1YQ09jeVZ6bEE&w=100&h=650
ePAttack
Profile Joined September 2010
United States112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-02 08:15:00
January 02 2011 08:14 GMT
#13
I have the same problem, But i have found a fix that works for me.

I've noticed that each time i pop up the Razer Mouse program it stops jittering.
But when I close it, it starts to jitter again.

I just leave the program on. Works for me! jitter free =D

Tell me if it works for you!
DominicxD
Profile Joined December 2010
20 Posts
January 10 2011 12:37 GMT
#14
Yeah I'm getting this problem too. Opening the mouse program doesnt seem to work. Changing the DPI in the driver settings isn't helping either. Hopefully the guys at Razer can get this sorted. The Marauder Keyboard is great though.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
January 10 2011 12:51 GMT
#15
mmhh have a imperator which uses a twin eye too ( a similar/same version as in the mamba) and absolutely cant reproduce this.

i just even tried to do it by putting the mouse on the softest thing i could find fast... a stack of loose toiletpaper.... and still it didnt happen .except when i just clicked without holding the mouse obv moving it "deep" into the soft tp. (it tracked surprisingly well btw on this exotic surface ;D)


maybe they use different versions/firmware or some are just black sheep in the production but im glad it doesnt happen for me even when i try ~~
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Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
January 10 2011 12:54 GMT
#16
The latest razer mouses have been soo bad.

i still have my diamondback that, im pretty sure will never break.

razer has really declined in quality.
vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
January 10 2011 13:07 GMT
#17
On January 10 2011 21:51 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
mmhh have a imperator which uses a twin eye too ( a similar/same version as in the mamba) and absolutely cant reproduce this.

i just even tried to do it by putting the mouse on the softest thing i could find fast... a stack of loose toiletpaper.... and still it didnt happen .except when i just clicked without holding the mouse obv moving it "deep" into the soft tp. (it tracked surprisingly well btw on this exotic surface ;D)


maybe they use different versions/firmware or some are just black sheep in the production but im glad it doesnt happen for me even when i try ~~


I think it can be fixed with firmware, the problem (as far as I know) is to do with including the "lift-off" z-axis distance in the x and y screen co-ordinates. Since there is no z-axis on a 2d screen the Z values should either be discarded or only used for correcting cursor position when the mouse is picked up and placed somewhere else.

The problem seems to be that the default Philips firmware got this wrong and most manufacturers don't seem to care or take ages to fix it because it only effects some mouse pads.

Another thing to test if your mouse has the issue is if you constantly pick up and place your mouse in exactly the same location. If the cursor stays in approximately the same spot then your mouse does not have any issues. If it shifts diagonally until it hits the edge of the screen then you have a problem that can only be solved by:
- Hoping for new firmware
- Using a hard mouse pad and not lifting the mouse
- Getting a new mouse

Here is a great youtube video that shows the problem I am talking about:


If your mouse doesn't suffer then you are one of the lucky ones and I'm glad you didn't end up with a dud
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
January 10 2011 14:40 GMT
#18
I have seen this problem numerous times.. Get a replacement or hope for a driver release.

BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 15:10:12
January 10 2011 15:07 GMT
#19
@vek

the diagonal jump happens abit when i lift it up straight . but it seems to displace much less when you lift it in a moving motion like you do while playing fps etc. jsut a tiny jitter that so far all mice i used had.

and as said i couldnt reproduce the "press too hard on soft surface". maybe its some semi fixed version. or im really just lucky.


i dont know how bad it is with the other mice or the previous twin eye razer ones but after reading about it i expected it to be WAY WAY worse. as i said in a different thread i didnt even notice it till i read about this and my imperator having this sensor.


so maybe imperator/mamba now good/acceptable depending on usage style, rest not so much?
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FreekSharkHD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States26 Posts
January 10 2011 16:45 GMT
#20
I have a crappy logitech mouse that came with my computer and it doesn't have these issues. Why would i pay 100+ dollars for these problems? I love Razer, but I am lol'ing at that mouse...
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