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Zx_Storm
Profile Joined November 2010
United States49 Posts
May 11 2012 23:32 GMT
#1201
On May 12 2012 00:46 -Aura- wrote:
I need to choose between the G300, the G400, and the Razer Deathadder.

The G300 is the cheapest, but it looks a bit unwieldy, especially all those buttons on the left and right keys. The G400 costs more but seems okay. I don't think I'd ever be able to hit the button past the scroll wheel though lol. I've heard both good and bad things about the Deathadder, and I want to support Razer because they are so great for eSports. Please advise.

Anyway, I use a fingertip grip, and prefer higher senstivity. Also, I'm not sure what it's called, but on my current mouse (MX600) you can flick the scroll wheel to either side, and I've rebound that to be screen hotkeys and I've gotten really used to them. So do any/all of these three choices have this same function?



I had this choice. I ended up picking the Deathadder. But beware Razer's quality assurance is hit and miss. It's been a month or so, I'm still crossing my fingers, this one isn't defective. Otherwise, the Deathadder, has been pretty solid so far. If you don't want to deal with that though, the G400 is a great, and fairly reliable choice, I think.
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
May 12 2012 05:58 GMT
#1202
My mouse broke last night and so I need to buy a gaming mouse.

Playing SC2 but suspect I will be investing some time into D3 come next week also.

I've narrowed down to either Steelseries Sensei or Razer Naga Hex.

Thoughts?
T: Polt, Fantasy, Flash, Jjakji. P: HerO, Rain, Grubby, SoS. Z: Jaedong, Scarlett, Snute, Life. Casters: ToD, Apollo, MrBitter, Artosis, Day[9].
Thezftw
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 06:17:27
May 12 2012 06:14 GMT
#1203
Try to wield both of them and pick the one thats more comforting. Naga may be too small for some and sensei too big/heavy/whatever. Personally I like Sensei. You could go with the cheaper model Xai or Sensei [RAW] too I think. At least I don't get anything out of the "sick leds" or 10k+ CPI. The screen beneath the mouse is kinda cool if you you LAN a lot and/or need to change profiles without SS software and you can even create your own logo in it. But in all truth, who looks at the bottom of their mouse..

I also think that SS products are more sturdy than Razer ones, having owned stuff from both. If you're into light stuff, go with Razer.
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
May 12 2012 15:58 GMT
#1204
On May 12 2012 15:14 Thezftw wrote:
Try to wield both of them and pick the one thats more comforting. Naga may be too small for some and sensei too big/heavy/whatever. Personally I like Sensei. You could go with the cheaper model Xai or Sensei [RAW] too I think. At least I don't get anything out of the "sick leds" or 10k+ CPI. The screen beneath the mouse is kinda cool if you you LAN a lot and/or need to change profiles without SS software and you can even create your own logo in it. But in all truth, who looks at the bottom of their mouse..

I also think that SS products are more sturdy than Razer ones, having owned stuff from both. If you're into light stuff, go with Razer.


Thanks man, I managed to get hands on both mice and went for the Naga, was just far more comfortable in my hand, even though it cost £20 more than the Sensei.
T: Polt, Fantasy, Flash, Jjakji. P: HerO, Rain, Grubby, SoS. Z: Jaedong, Scarlett, Snute, Life. Casters: ToD, Apollo, MrBitter, Artosis, Day[9].
EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
May 12 2012 16:59 GMT
#1205
On May 13 2012 00:58 Xorphene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 15:14 Thezftw wrote:
Try to wield both of them and pick the one thats more comforting. Naga may be too small for some and sensei too big/heavy/whatever. Personally I like Sensei. You could go with the cheaper model Xai or Sensei [RAW] too I think. At least I don't get anything out of the "sick leds" or 10k+ CPI. The screen beneath the mouse is kinda cool if you you LAN a lot and/or need to change profiles without SS software and you can even create your own logo in it. But in all truth, who looks at the bottom of their mouse..

I also think that SS products are more sturdy than Razer ones, having owned stuff from both. If you're into light stuff, go with Razer.


Thanks man, I managed to get hands on both mice and went for the Naga, was just far more comfortable in my hand, even though it cost £20 more than the Sensei.


You might have just made the wrong decision. Pray that your Razer mouse doesn't become disfunctional within 6 months of use.
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
May 12 2012 21:14 GMT
#1206
On May 13 2012 01:59 EdenPLusDucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 00:58 Xorphene wrote:
On May 12 2012 15:14 Thezftw wrote:
Try to wield both of them and pick the one thats more comforting. Naga may be too small for some and sensei too big/heavy/whatever. Personally I like Sensei. You could go with the cheaper model Xai or Sensei [RAW] too I think. At least I don't get anything out of the "sick leds" or 10k+ CPI. The screen beneath the mouse is kinda cool if you you LAN a lot and/or need to change profiles without SS software and you can even create your own logo in it. But in all truth, who looks at the bottom of their mouse..

I also think that SS products are more sturdy than Razer ones, having owned stuff from both. If you're into light stuff, go with Razer.


Thanks man, I managed to get hands on both mice and went for the Naga, was just far more comfortable in my hand, even though it cost £20 more than the Sensei.


You might have just made the wrong decision. Pray that your Razer mouse doesn't become disfunctional within 6 months of use.


I've had a first generation Lachesis for use on my laptop for over two years with no problems, if it fails within 6 months it's under warranty.
T: Polt, Fantasy, Flash, Jjakji. P: HerO, Rain, Grubby, SoS. Z: Jaedong, Scarlett, Snute, Life. Casters: ToD, Apollo, MrBitter, Artosis, Day[9].
-Aura-
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States209 Posts
May 13 2012 03:55 GMT
#1207
On May 12 2012 08:32 Zx_Storm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 00:46 -Aura- wrote:
I need to choose between the G300, the G400, and the Razer Deathadder.

The G300 is the cheapest, but it looks a bit unwieldy, especially all those buttons on the left and right keys. The G400 costs more but seems okay. I don't think I'd ever be able to hit the button past the scroll wheel though lol. I've heard both good and bad things about the Deathadder, and I want to support Razer because they are so great for eSports. Please advise.

Anyway, I use a fingertip grip, and prefer higher senstivity. Also, I'm not sure what it's called, but on my current mouse (MX600) you can flick the scroll wheel to either side, and I've rebound that to be screen hotkeys and I've gotten really used to them. So do any/all of these three choices have this same function?



I had this choice. I ended up picking the Deathadder. But beware Razer's quality assurance is hit and miss. It's been a month or so, I'm still crossing my fingers, this one isn't defective. Otherwise, the Deathadder, has been pretty solid so far. If you don't want to deal with that though, the G400 is a great, and fairly reliable choice, I think.


Took your advice and got the G400. I'll post back with how I like it if any other people have a similar decision.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Liquid get more Terrans please...
-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 05:09:04
May 13 2012 05:08 GMT
#1208
my Xai feels like it's breaking, the right mouse button feels kind of worn out (a plastic peice that connected it snapped when I was messing with it) so I'm thinking of buying a Sensei because I'm so used to the shape and can't get used to other mice.

My question about the Sensei Chrome edition is, how does it grip with Sweaty hands? My hands often get very sweaty after playing so I was wondering if the Chrome would be a big issue with that. If so I can just get the Raw version but the chrome looks sweet
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
May 13 2012 16:18 GMT
#1209
On May 13 2012 14:08 -Exalt- wrote:
my Xai feels like it's breaking, the right mouse button feels kind of worn out (a plastic peice that connected it snapped when I was messing with it) so I'm thinking of buying a Sensei because I'm so used to the shape and can't get used to other mice.

My question about the Sensei Chrome edition is, how does it grip with Sweaty hands? My hands often get very sweaty after playing so I was wondering if the Chrome would be a big issue with that. If so I can just get the Raw version but the chrome looks sweet

From what I understand the Raw will actually be somewhat different performance wise from the original Sensei, it won't have the same MCU and could have a slightly different firmware, but we don't really know as of yet as it hasn't been release yet.
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Disobedient
Profile Joined February 2012
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 04:24:31
May 14 2012 03:37 GMT
#1210
Im not sure if this is possible but i would like to add my input on the Steelseries sensei i have had it for 2 weeks now and its a very good mouse with only a single con(for me atleast) with gets crushed by the pros

Pros:
You can make this mouse truely your own down to how high you lift it from your mousepad to having freemovement over your mouse
Looks wonderful and feels great
The program that works with the mouse is amazing

Cons
Fingerprints!!!! they are there thats all that can be said but thats the only thing that bothers me
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 01:43:17
May 16 2012 01:42 GMT
#1211
Thinking of getting this mouse:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-910-001268-M115-Mouse-Black/dp/B0027YTKZI/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Anyone have experience? I realize it's a smaller mouse meant for laptops and has a short cord. I will probably need buy a USB-extender to be able to use it with desktop. I've found that I really prefer very small mouse for a claw/fingertip grip (I used have another laptop mouse that fell apart a while ago).

I have been debating between this one and something like Abyssus or maybe the Logitech g1, but these two might be even to big for me. Plus, i prefer the simple design of the logitech m115.

I plan to do typical things. Play bw time to time, surf the web and play skyrim time to time.
Buy prints of my photographs at Redbubble -> http://www.redbubble.com/people/shoenberg3
EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
May 16 2012 02:49 GMT
#1212
On May 16 2012 10:42 phosphorylation wrote:
Thinking of getting this mouse:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-910-001268-M115-Mouse-Black/dp/B0027YTKZI/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Anyone have experience? I realize it's a smaller mouse meant for laptops and has a short cord. I will probably need buy a USB-extender to be able to use it with desktop. I've found that I really prefer very small mouse for a claw/fingertip grip (I used have another laptop mouse that fell apart a while ago).

I have been debating between this one and something like Abyssus or maybe the Logitech g1, but these two might be even to big for me. Plus, i prefer the simple design of the logitech m115.

I plan to do typical things. Play bw time to time, surf the web and play skyrim time to time.


Get the Zowie Mico, small mouse, made for claw grip. I've been using it for 2 months, no other gaming mouse beats it in terms of size.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
May 16 2012 03:07 GMT
#1213
What advtanges would the zowie offer over the logitech? Spending 40 dollars on a mouse is slightly unsavory to me. As far as I can tell so far, I prefer the logitech's styling and they seem to be similar size/shape. Do you think it will offer better accuracy, responsiveness (keep it mind, I don't play FPS)?
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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 16 2012 03:07 GMT
#1214
On May 16 2012 10:42 phosphorylation wrote:
Thinking of getting this mouse:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-910-001268-M115-Mouse-Black/dp/B0027YTKZI/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Anyone have experience? I realize it's a smaller mouse meant for laptops and has a short cord. I will probably need buy a USB-extender to be able to use it with desktop. I've found that I really prefer very small mouse for a claw/fingertip grip (I used have another laptop mouse that fell apart a while ago).

I have been debating between this one and something like Abyssus or maybe the Logitech g1, but these two might be even to big for me. Plus, i prefer the simple design of the logitech m115.

I plan to do typical things. Play bw time to time, surf the web and play skyrim time to time.


That's a piece of junk. Probably no more than 500CPI, and at best 125hz polling rate. Probably okay for playing BW, but it's literally interchangeable to every other mouse that the sell in the stores. If you're looking for an actual gaming mouse, check the OP.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 03:17:17
May 16 2012 03:13 GMT
#1215
I don't really care about dpi -- why should I, if I don't play FPS?

Are you gonna call logitech mini optical (what BW progamers use) "junk", just because it has 500 dpi? I generally am bit wary about "gaming mice"; sure they might have more features and better numbers but none of that will make much difference for my usage, if at all.

The only things I am concerned about is price, (very) small form factor/weight, sufficient performance, and styling as a plus.

edit: One thing I haven't considered is that I also do some design/photo-editing on photoshop and better accuracy/stability would be a plus there for drawing shapes/using brushes. Will these "gaming mice" help me in this regard?
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 03:21:58
May 16 2012 03:18 GMT
#1216
Well unless you play with acceleration on or like pixel skipping 500 dpi would be almost unplayable depending on how big your screen is.

As for stuff like PS it's really ncie to be able to quickly switch between DPIs depending on what you are doing.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 03:21:20
May 16 2012 03:21 GMT
#1217
I just checked and the "junk" logitech mouse has 1000 dpi.
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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 16 2012 03:35 GMT
#1218
On May 16 2012 12:13 phosphorylation wrote:
I don't really care about dpi -- why should I, if I don't play FPS?

Are you gonna call logitech mini optical (what BW progamers use) "junk", just because it has 500 dpi? I generally am bit wary about "gaming mice"; sure they might have more features and better numbers but none of that will make much difference for my usage, if at all.

The only things I am concerned about is price, (very) small form factor/weight, sufficient performance, and styling as a plus.

edit: One thing I haven't considered is that I also do some design/photo-editing on photoshop and better accuracy/stability would be a plus there for drawing shapes/using brushes. Will these "gaming mice" help me in this regard?


What is your definition of performance? That it works when you plug it in? Yeah, then that thing you be fine. But if you want a 1ms response time, superior tracking, switchable CPI (good for going between FPSs, BW, photoshop, etc) then you're going to need to spend some money on a decent mouse. These cheap things from Logitech aren't designed for gaming, and while they work okay for BW given that it's in 640x480 for higher end gaming they can't compare to the more expensive options on the market.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 03:50:14
May 16 2012 03:49 GMT
#1219
Theoretically, 1ms response time, superior tracking etc should be improvements. But do you think I will actually notice an actual difference between 1ms and 5ms when I am mainly just surfing the web and sometimes playing BW and occasionally editing graphics/photos?

This is what I mean by performance: noticeable improvements in accuracy and responsiveness. If it's not noticeable, why bother?
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EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
May 16 2012 03:57 GMT
#1220
If you don't want the fancy improvements, why are you still asking questions and have not bought the mouse already?
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