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[AthruN]
Australia25 Posts
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Craizyfists
United Kingdom19 Posts
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Thezftw
Finland116 Posts
On May 05 2012 18:19 Craizyfists wrote: Mine is quite stiffy actually, been like that since I bought it. Not in the way when it's years old and greased from inside but like when you can really only move it with intention. I tried to shook my Sensei and it does not rattle. Try warranty change it?I bought a Sensei a couple of months back and noticed that the mouse wheel is really loose. I saw a video with the same problem on a xai or kinzu (cant remember which) where the person picked up the mouse and shook it and it "rattled" (the wheel was rattling). I'm getting the same thing on my Sensei, it's like the wheel is loose and I can wiggle it with my finger. Anyone else who has a Sensei, is your wheel the same or is it a problem with my mouse? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20275 Posts
On May 04 2012 03:52 DannyJ wrote: It's still low. 400 on 1280x768 is akin to only 600 on 1920x1080 Mathematically (pixel areas) it would be equal to 843.75dpi, assuming he was using 6/11 in windows, 51-54% inside of sc2 and had no acceleration. Resolutions have two dimensions, 1440p is four times the resolution of 720p, not double it. As such, 2880p is sixteen times 720p, although an amateur would compare them and say 2880 is four times greater than 720 and thus 2880p must be four times greater than 720p. 16x vs 4x, big difference. It makes me sad to see average people so uninformed about resolutions through no fault of their own :/ Also i wouldnt consider 843dpi to be low. Maybe mid range. I use 270-450 for sc2 at 1920x1080 and my hand barely moves at all compared to the low sensitivities common in first person shooters for example. | ||
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
I understand that the consensus is that a wireless mouse will never live up to the responsiveness of a wired one, but I'm wondering what comes the closest! So can anyone recommend wireless mice that - have the least possible amount of input delay - and have decent battery life? (first-hand experiences preferred) Things such as weight or price or cpi values are not that big of a concern. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On May 06 2012 03:03 538 wrote: I'm looking for recommendations for a good wireless mouse! I know a lot of people hate them with a passon, but I have to move around a lot with a notebook, and the constant packing and unpacking of my wired mouse broke its cord in roughly 6 months, so I've decided to get a wireless one - which I'd still like to use to play BW here and there. I understand that the consensus is that a wireless mouse will never live up to the responsiveness of a wired one, but I'm wondering what comes the closest! So can anyone recommend wireless mice that - have the least possible amount of input delay - and have decent battery life? (first-hand experiences preferred) Things such as weight or price or cpi values are not that big of a concern. Do you play a lot of stuff other than BW? I ask because high end wireless mice are expensive. Since BW runs at such a low resolution, a really nice mouse isn't necessary to be able to play it, any old logitech or MS wireless mouse would probably do the trick. Probably only going to support a 125htz polling rate, but if you want to go better, you are going to have to drop some cash. Razer has two mice that support dual wireless and wired modes. The Orochi is the cheaper of the two at about $80 MSRP but only supports up to 125htz polling rate in wireless mode. The Mamba is $130 for the 2012 edition, but I believe it does support 1000htz polling in wireless mode, also has pretty good battery life. Logitech G700 is $100, and does also support 1000htz polling rate. Cyborg R.A.T 9 also supports 1000htz polling rate, and comes in at $150. If your first concern is for input delay, then your only real options are the three that support 1000htz polling rate. Most gamers really don't like wireless, so unfortunately there's a limited selection. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20275 Posts
On May 06 2012 11:41 TheToast wrote: Do you play a lot of stuff other than BW? I ask because high end wireless mice are expensive. Since BW runs at such a low resolution, a really nice mouse isn't necessary to be able to play it, any old logitech or MS wireless mouse would probably do the trick. Probably only going to support a 125htz polling rate, but if you want to go better, you are going to have to drop some cash. Razer has two mice that support dual wireless and wired modes. The Orochi is the cheaper of the two at about $80 MSRP but only supports up to 125htz polling rate in wireless mode. The Mamba is $130 for the 2012 edition, but I believe it does support 1000htz polling in wireless mode, also has pretty good battery life. Logitech G700 is $100, and does also support 1000htz polling rate. Cyborg R.A.T 9 also supports 1000htz polling rate, and comes in at $150. If your first concern is for input delay, then your only real options are the three that support 1000htz polling rate. Most gamers really don't like wireless, so unfortunately there's a limited selection. Id like to add that pretty much any wireless mouse should be fine unless it has a major sensor issue. Another option would be to get a super cheap but decent wired mouse and just be ready with replacements if and when they do break. The Coolermaster Storm Xornet comes to mind for me, but that is more personal as it is claw grip and im not sure of its US avalibility etc. If you can get one they should be like $25. | ||
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
On May 06 2012 11:41 TheToast wrote: Do you play a lot of stuff other than BW? I ask because high end wireless mice are expensive. Since BW runs at such a low resolution, a really nice mouse isn't necessary to be able to play it, any old logitech or MS wireless mouse would probably do the trick. Probably only going to support a 125htz polling rate, but if you want to go better, you are going to have to drop some cash. Razer has two mice that support dual wireless and wired modes. The Orochi is the cheaper of the two at about $80 MSRP but only supports up to 125htz polling rate in wireless mode. The Mamba is $130 for the 2012 edition, but I believe it does support 1000htz polling in wireless mode, also has pretty good battery life. Logitech G700 is $100, and does also support 1000htz polling rate. Cyborg R.A.T 9 also supports 1000htz polling rate, and comes in at $150. If your first concern is for input delay, then your only real options are the three that support 1000htz polling rate. Most gamers really don't like wireless, so unfortunately there's a limited selection. Yes, it's mostly just BW. (That's the only one where I'm serious enough to notice a bad mouse anyway) Does polling rate has a bigger importance in wireless mouse? My last wired mice were all running at 125Hz, and I considered that perfectly responsive. Also, why does a lower resolution help with such an issue as responsiveness? One would think it actually enhances the minor inconsistencies. I tried a Logitech M305 the other day, and it felt pretty sluggish to me. I usually don't care what does a mouse look like, but the RAT9 is disgusting :D I'll check out the others you mentioned, thanks. @Cyro - I actually did come across a cheap offer for a Xornet, but I've read mixed reviews about it (then again, it's hard to find good reviews online of mice that are not of the Logitech-Razer-Steelseries-Microsoft group) - have you actually used one? (I use some kind of a fingertip grip, so that shape isnt an issue) | ||
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ulfryc
Germany115 Posts
1. What's your grip style? Mainly palm, sometimes I switch to Claw  .2. What's your sensitivity? I'd say medium (~2400dpi). 3. What's your maximum budget? 50€, less would be nice though :D. 4. Do you want additional buttons? I need 2 additional buttons (Mouse4+Mouse5), more would be nice but I don't really care. 5. What games do you play? Starcraft 2; Why else am I on this board? 6. Other relevant information: Wireless, Driverless would be nice, since I'm going to use it on linux aswell and mouse drivers are always a pain. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On May 06 2012 18:33 538 wrote: Yes, it's mostly just BW. (That's the only one where I'm serious enough to notice a bad mouse anyway) Does polling rate has a bigger importance in wireless mouse? My last wired mice were all running at 125Hz, and I considered that perfectly responsive. Also, why does a lower resolution help with such an issue as responsiveness? One would think it actually enhances the minor inconsistencies. I tried a Logitech M305 the other day, and it felt pretty sluggish to me. I usually don't care what does a mouse look like, but the RAT9 is disgusting :D I'll check out the others you mentioned, thanks. Sorry, the lower resolution actually makes high DPI irrelevant. Polling rate is the responsiveness of the mouse, the reason I mentioned it is because you mentioned that was the most important thing you were looking at. If 125htz is responsive enough for you, and you're only playing BW, honestly pretty much any mouse would do. Most mice you buy in the store these days are going to be between 500-1000 DPI, which should be more than enough for BW. If you are looking for something more high end, the ones I mentioned are for the most part probably your only options unfortunately.  On May 07 2012 07:58 ulfryc wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a new mouse. It's going to be used mainly on my new Laptop, so I want it to be a wireless mouse. I've never actually owned one myself, but heard wireless mice make laptop usage much easier. But I still want to play Starcraft 2 competetively with it. So can you recommend me a good mouse? Thanks! 1. What's your grip style? Mainly palm, sometimes I switch to Claw .2. What's your sensitivity? I'd say medium (~2400dpi). 3. What's your maximum budget? 50€, less would be nice though :D. 4. Do you want additional buttons? I need 2 additional buttons (Mouse4+Mouse5), more would be nice but I don't really care. 5. What games do you play? Starcraft 2; Why else am I on this board? 6. Other relevant information: Wireless, Driverless would be nice, since I'm going to use it on linux aswell and mouse drivers are always a pain. Looking for a wireless mouse? As I told 583, your options are limited, and $65/50 euros is not going to be enough for a high end wireless gaming mouse. If I may quote myself for ease: Razer has two mice that support dual wireless and wired modes. The Orochi is the cheaper of the two at about $80 MSRP but only supports up to 125htz polling rate in wireless mode. The Mamba is $130 for the 2012 edition, but I believe it does support 1000htz polling in wireless mode, also has pretty good battery life. Logitech G700 is $100, and does also support 1000htz polling rate. Cyborg R.A.T 9 also supports 1000htz polling rate, and comes in at $150. | ||
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sl1p_
United Kingdom1 Post
I have a cooler master xornet mouse that I am quite pleased with, but using it on my steelseries Qck mini it has seriously bad jitter, like if I move the mouse in a straight line I can visibly see it shaking left and right and it actually makes it difficult even highlighting text in windows. I'm using the lowest DPI, which is like 500 and polling rate of 1000hz and the latest firmware, which supposedly reduces angle snapping. Does anyone have this mouse? What mouse pad do you recommend? Are hard pads better than cloth? Thanks for any info. | ||
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ulfryc
Germany115 Posts
Looking for a wireless mouse? As I told 583, your options are limited, and $65/50 euros is not going to be enough for a high end wireless gaming mouse. If I may quote myself for ease: Yes, thanks I read that. However >50€ is not an option for me. I'm also not looking for a high end gaming mouse. I only need something decent, solid mouse. Aren't there any good cost-effecient wireless mice someone can recommend? | ||
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tZeal
Canada5 Posts
I currently have a Logitech G700 wireless mouse, The DPI is fantastic and I bought it originally for counter strike: source, Being an avid FPS player I have always found that a bit of weight to be very handy, But recently I have started playing Starcraft 2, and the weight from my mouse get a little tiring after a while, I had a razer imperator at one point but found it -too- light. And I'm getting tired of my mouse's battery running low during a longer game. If i keep it plugged in the entire time, the chord starts to get in the way because it is a thick plastic and pressed directly against the pad. So my question is, What would be a good mouse that has a bit of weight but not heavy like my current mouse, and corded with good DPI, I have looked over the logitech site and the razer site, and havent noticed anything that pops out to me, any advice you could give would be fantastic! PS: Also nothing over like 150$ | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On May 04 2012 18:58 nOondn wrote: i got kinzu and it has accel -_- and it cannot turn off by software becuase it come with hardware , it hardware issue nothing to do with software. i was gonna say why people dislike kinzu because i quite like mine! i agree what Belial88 said, in the end of day, is 20buck you are talking about , kinzu is probably the best mouse at that price range. just get a teflon pad and you are all sorted. i remember i made some adjustment by googling some forumer's method and have been a happy kinzu mouse user since about 2 years ago (I do not update the driver since then), it is so much better than those logitech/microsoft mouse below 50 price range. | ||
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Dacendoran
United States825 Posts
On May 08 2012 03:18 tZeal wrote: Well, everyone here seems to be vastly more informed than I on mice, So I shall turn to you for advice. I currently have a Logitech G700 wireless mouse, The DPI is fantastic and I bought it originally for counter strike: source, Being an avid FPS player I have always found that a bit of weight to be very handy, But recently I have started playing Starcraft 2, and the weight from my mouse get a little tiring after a while, I had a razer imperator at one point but found it -too- light. And I'm getting tired of my mouse's battery running low during a longer game. If i keep it plugged in the entire time, the chord starts to get in the way because it is a thick plastic and pressed directly against the pad. So my question is, What would be a good mouse that has a bit of weight but not heavy like my current mouse, and corded with good DPI, I have looked over the logitech site and the razer site, and havent noticed anything that pops out to me, any advice you could give would be fantastic! PS: Also nothing over like 150$ Depends on your grip style but if weight is a big issue the RAT 9 from Madcatz has adjustable weight system, so does the sidewinder mouse from microsoft (I used to own and love this mouse until I bought my steelseries wow mouse). Though im an advocate of palm grip and love big mice | ||
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Arkaridge
Australia48 Posts
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On May 07 2012 22:40 ulfryc wrote: Yes, thanks I read that. However >50€ is not an option for me. I'm also not looking for a high end gaming mouse. I only need something decent, solid mouse. Aren't there any good cost-effecient wireless mice someone can recommend? Not really, no. If you want a high end mouse with decent DPI and 1 m/s report rate, it's going to be expensive. If that's out of your price range, you are either going to have to settle for something like a Logitech M510 or M515, which has Logitech's "Darkfield" tracking system, which they claim can get up to 5700 DPI. Unfortunately it's a laser sensor so you have all the issues which go along with that, and don't expect to get perfect tracking--it's not really designed as a gaming mouse. Honestly, with your budget, you would be way better off going wired. On May 08 2012 03:18 tZeal wrote: So my question is, What would be a good mouse that has a bit of weight but not heavy like my current mouse, and corded with good DPI, I have looked over the logitech site and the razer site, and havent noticed anything that pops out to me, any advice you could give would be fantastic! PS: Also nothing over like 150$ Using these guidelines, I could reccommend about any mouse on the market. Do you have any specifics of what exactly you are looking for? | ||
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ljd1131
Australia83 Posts
Like which ones for what type mouse, the diffrences and what not thx | ||
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tZeal
Canada5 Posts
On May 08 2012 23:11 TheToast wrote: Using these guidelines, I could reccommend about any mouse on the market. Do you have any specifics of what exactly you are looking for? I just want something new, maybe something with adjustable weights or something along those lines. anything goes really I'm just looking for suggestions from people who have experience with different kinds of mice | ||
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