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Killivt03
Profile Joined May 2010
United States64 Posts
December 03 2010 18:48 GMT
#1
While doing a little Christmas shopping online the other day I across some interesting StarCraft 2 products that I was unaware of. Being that I'm a very average amateur player I'm always looking for new advantages that could potentially help my game. I'm currently using a wireless (I know) logitech revolution mouse that's in need of an upgrade. I'm looking for a mouse that was built well and has some weight to it.

I found this mouse on Amazon which I had never seen in a store: Razer Spectre StarCraft II Gaming Mouse

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I'd like everyone's honest opinion of this mouse before I buy it. It looks pretty cool and must have been licensed by Blizzard for them to have been able to put the StarCraft II logo on it.



Poll: Razer Mouses

Suck, cheaper mouses work just as well (85)
 
70%

Rock and are worth every penny (37)
 
30%

122 total votes

Your vote: Razer Mouses

(Vote): Rock and are worth every penny
(Vote): Suck, cheaper mouses work just as well


Are you shaking yet?
Hugoboss21
Profile Joined June 2009
France346 Posts
December 03 2010 18:52 GMT
#2
got money to waste -> buy it
trying to save some money for other stuff -> don't buy it.

Pretty simple.
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Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
December 03 2010 18:53 GMT
#3
The shape looks quite awkward to hold, but that's just from looking at the picture.

Other than that, it has APM Technology ^^
Such flammable little insects!
Danick
Profile Joined September 2010
7 Posts
December 03 2010 18:54 GMT
#4
I bought this a month ago and I freakin' love it. Amazon had the best price and it seems they still do.
alurlol
Profile Joined October 2010
England197 Posts
December 03 2010 18:56 GMT
#5
No different, if not worse than other cheaper alternatives. For example try the Logitech MX518, extremely cheap considering other options and a proven mouse which professionals and non use. But no mouse will make you a better player, except in your case as wireless mouse's suck :p
Killivt03
Profile Joined May 2010
United States64 Posts
December 03 2010 18:56 GMT
#6
What exactly is APM technology?

I know what APM is, but how does it work in a mouse?
Are you shaking yet?
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 18:59:20
December 03 2010 18:58 GMT
#7
On December 04 2010 03:56 Killivt03 wrote:
What exactly is APM technology?

I know what APM is, but how does it work in a mouse?


It's something that Razer thought of and is mentioning often in promotion of their SC2 hardware, but it is mocked regularly on TL since it's fairly pointless. Basically, the lights on the mouse change color depending on your APM. So red color for low APM and green for high, or something like that.
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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
December 03 2010 19:03 GMT
#8
There are already quite a few threads on this, you might want to check them out:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=167284

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131223

And there are like 30 more threads on Razer products, if you search.
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nehl
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany270 Posts
December 03 2010 19:05 GMT
#9
well i didnot try it, but i dont like it either. i payed round 70€ for my mouse, so i think it is worth it and i dont wanna get one of these cheap mice again.
Killivt03
Profile Joined May 2010
United States64 Posts
December 03 2010 19:05 GMT
#10
On December 04 2010 04:03 TheToast wrote:
There are already quite a few threads on this, you might want to check them out:


Yeah I saw them but they were mostly about all Razor products. I'm just specifically interested in this one.
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
December 03 2010 20:11 GMT
#11
it's a terrible mouse with APM lights, that's about it. If you want a good mouse, get the razer death adder.
Kelberot
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil364 Posts
December 03 2010 20:27 GMT
#12
On December 04 2010 05:11 Chairman Ray wrote:
it's a terrible mouse with APM lights, that's about it. If you want a good mouse, get the razer death adder.

Caution though, the deathadder might be a little too big for starcraft. I own a razer salmosa and deathadder, both are extremely comfy but the salmosa is much smaller/lighter and just feels so much better when playing RTS games.

The deathadder has the two extra side buttons which I really love for everything else, though. I don't own an abyssus, but from what I hear, they're a newer version of salmosa, except a little bigger.
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
December 03 2010 20:41 GMT
#13
Its a waste man, go buy a Razer Deathadder. This mouse is gonna be way more comfortable than the "official Starcraft 2 mouse." Same with keyboards. When do you ever see a progamer with one of those funky "gaming" keyboards
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
December 03 2010 21:17 GMT
#14
Djzapz nailed it:
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piskooooo
Profile Joined November 2008
United States351 Posts
December 03 2010 22:39 GMT
#15
It looks like that terrible Apple mouse.
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Reno(TE)
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom434 Posts
December 03 2010 22:41 GMT
#16
I do not look at my mouse while i play sc2 xD
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NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
December 03 2010 22:48 GMT
#17
I do not look at my mouse while i play sc2 xD

It shines a LOT i mean it can blind you. believe me you will see it.

Well This mouse looks everrated by Razer, I dont find it SOOOO EPIC.
Its for finger grips / claw grips what is nice for me but 5600 DPI it way to much for RTS. and it looks like crap i mean when my GF come to my place and see this i would have troubles to explaining whats going on. go for Razer Abyssus if you like the shape
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
December 03 2010 22:48 GMT
#18
Just buy a normal mouse slap a sc2 sticker on it and call it super apm lighting fast mega flash mouse.

Mouse wont make you any better, buy it for the looks if you want but dont expect a big improvement.
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
December 03 2010 23:08 GMT
#19
Seriously dont make polls like this, it's soo pointless. What you want is real intel from people that have used the mouse.

There is VERY few that's even held it, yet used it. Just saying, so dont take your poll as some kind of truth, since it'll just give you a opinion of what people _Feel_ when they look at the mouse and its specs.

If you are unsure, wait a few weeks, check up on reviews on different sites (like this one) and youtube reviews. There is usually something useful to extract atleast
Mada Mada Dane
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
December 03 2010 23:09 GMT
#20
On December 04 2010 03:48 Killivt03 wrote:
While doing a little Christmas shopping online the other day I across some interesting StarCraft 2 products that I was unaware of. Being that I'm a very average amateur player I'm always looking for new advantages that could potentially help my game. I'm currently using a wireless (I know) logitech revolution mouse that's in need of an upgrade. I'm looking for a mouse that was built well and has some weight to it.



i was using a revolution as well. but then i switched to a v100
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bobbingmatt
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia224 Posts
December 03 2010 23:09 GMT
#21
It looks really cool, I think that's about all it has going for it...
no
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 23:11:07
December 03 2010 23:10 GMT
#22
I'm looking to get a new mouse.

Razer Specture or Logitech G9?
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Ptur
Profile Joined July 2010
Ukraine85 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-27 11:53:35
December 03 2010 23:21 GMT
#23
take a look at the razer salmose/abyssus
OsC
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada542 Posts
December 03 2010 23:32 GMT
#24
check my thread for pics/review
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 03 2010 23:45 GMT
#25
I'd be willing to bet that the SC2 logo on that wears off before too long.
gn1k
Profile Joined July 2010
United States441 Posts
December 04 2010 00:07 GMT
#26
I have 2 diamond backs and like them a lot. The APM lights seem very useless. People really like their logitech mice.
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Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
December 04 2010 00:34 GMT
#27
Looks really awkward to hold. I really hate uni-hand mice personally, the last one i had game me hand cramps.
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MOOG
Profile Joined October 2010
United States188 Posts
December 04 2010 01:34 GMT
#28
On December 04 2010 08:45 Doodsmack wrote:
I'd be willing to bet that the SC2 logo on that wears off before too long.


That is highly unlikely, because the SC2 logo isn't printed. If it was printed and able to be worn off, it wouldn't light up like it does.

More likely is the razer logo wearing off.
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universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
December 04 2010 02:54 GMT
#29
it's kind of like a razer salmosa with unnecessary bells and whistles. i'd go for a different mouse. the APM lighting seems tempting to a newer player, but a more experienced player will be thinking along the lines of "what is the point of lights? i don't have the time in-game to look down at my mouse to see what color it is"
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 03:12:09
December 04 2010 03:06 GMT
#30
Don't listen to all the haters. Buy it if you like it and won't starve for the next week because of the price. Everyone is just judging it based on it's looks and claims it's awkward to hold when they've probably never even seen the thing in real life. Will it make you awesome at Starcraft? Probably not. But it will make you happy if you got a mouse that you like and enjoy playing with.

And if you can't tell what color light your mouse or keyboard is without looking directly at them, you should get your peripheral vision checked. I hear it's pretty useful.
Monarch.StarCrack
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States169 Posts
December 04 2010 14:52 GMT
#31
My current Logitech Revolution is getting to the point where I can no longer charge the batteries. I have to get a new mouse, I'm not a pro, I buy pretty much anything that says SC2 on it, Soooo I think I'm gunna buy it. I'll give you my thoughts after I've given it a whirl.
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diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
December 04 2010 15:21 GMT
#32
as others have said, Id go with a salmosa or abyssus. They weigh a lot less than this mouse and weight is far more important for a good rts mouse than apm lighting or fancy stuff like that.
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choron
Profile Joined November 2010
5 Posts
December 04 2010 19:37 GMT
#33
Logitech G9x ftw
IAttackYou
Profile Joined August 2010
United States330 Posts
December 04 2010 19:47 GMT
#34
ok, this is a really cool mouse and if you really wanted it, you should buy it. I have one question about the feature though, the mouse lights up different color when your getting attacked by do you honestly ever look at the mouse EVER in a game? kinda seems like pointless perk
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BleaK_
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway593 Posts
December 04 2010 20:14 GMT
#35
On December 04 2010 08:10 Highways wrote:
I'm looking to get a new mouse.

Razer Specture or Logitech G9?


Logitech G9x.
Jsanko
Profile Joined March 2010
Slovakia120 Posts
December 04 2010 20:53 GMT
#36
On December 05 2010 05:14 BleaK_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2010 08:10 Highways wrote:
I'm looking to get a new mouse.

Razer Specture or Logitech G9?


Logitech G9x.


Why ? Because FruitDealer uses one ? Please expand on your argument.
I mean OP is kinda lacking more options. And I wonder how you could pool without people actually trying this mouse, at least not for more then few hours on events.

Also consider there are people who don't mind spending 10 bucks more on mouse that is licensed for SC, most of hate this mouse have is from APM tech, which in eyes of most automaticly makes you douche bag, I'm also considering these two mouses but I ll decide on base of reviews. At least I hope someone makes after few days/weeks using it.
Also I would like comment from some tournament players.
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deathserv
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States228 Posts
December 04 2010 22:40 GMT
#37
I just got a Logitech G9X during Newegg's Black Friday sale (came with a $30 mail in rebate). It's freakin' amazing. I would highly recommend it. The interchangeable weight cartridges are very nice, really solid construction, good feel in your hand (a bit smaller than the MX518). The customizable LED color function is really nice, too, and adds a bit of flash.
genra
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany42 Posts
December 04 2010 23:47 GMT
#38
imo the sc2 logo and those lights are embarassing.

other than that its important to know if its z-axis issue affects rts games.
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
December 04 2010 23:51 GMT
#39
On December 05 2010 05:53 Jsanko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 05:14 BleaK_ wrote:
On December 04 2010 08:10 Highways wrote:
I'm looking to get a new mouse.

Razer Specture or Logitech G9?


Logitech G9x.


Why ? Because FruitDealer uses one ? Please expand on your argument.
I mean OP is kinda lacking more options. And I wonder how you could pool without people actually trying this mouse, at least not for more then few hours on events.

Also consider there are people who don't mind spending 10 bucks more on mouse that is licensed for SC, most of hate this mouse have is from APM tech, which in eyes of most automaticly makes you douche bag, I'm also considering these two mouses but I ll decide on base of reviews. At least I hope someone makes after few days/weeks using it.
Also I would like comment from some tournament players.

Whatever kind of mouse has so many lights on it always distracts me.
ckd
Profile Joined November 2010
36 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 00:18:57
December 05 2010 00:14 GMT
#40
if you are going to get a razer mouse, just get a deathadder or mamba (Or copperhead, if you are feeling like a baller :D)

I personally have been using a razer copperhead for the past ~5 years, and prefer it to alot of logitech mice (I have won a few logitech mice, and mostly just give them away to friends. It may be important to note that I don't like the larger profile logitech mice tend to have, although I know alot of people like having a big mouse. I personally like to have my wrist on the table and have a very light mouse) However, despite my razer loyalty, the spectre really looks like it is uncomfy/pure novelty
Fluxflashor
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4 Posts
December 05 2010 00:50 GMT
#41
I'd recommend a Logitech G5 over that but they no longer make them. The G500 is the successor to the G5 and is made of pure win. I believe you can get one for around $60 now and you will not replace it. If anything happens to it theres a good warranty on it and Logitech stands behind their products like you wouldn't believe. My G5 failed and they paid for the return shipping to them, sent me a G500 replacement.

I'm kinda biased though I haven't owned any of the Razer mice and I don't think I ever will.
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zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
December 05 2010 00:54 GMT
#42
I can't stand Logitech MX518/G5/G500 shape. Way too bulky. Spectre looks good. How big/heavy is it compared to the Abyssus?
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
December 05 2010 01:30 GMT
#43
Omg I can't stress this enough; There is so much crap going on in this thread! People claim stuff about the actual basics of the mouse as if they were bad BECAUSE it has extra "cool" features. And I can guarantee you that almost no one has held it and yet even seen the mouse yet...

On December 05 2010 00:21 diehilde wrote:
as others have said, Id go with a salmosa or abyssus. They weigh a lot less than this mouse and weight is far more important for a good rts mouse than apm lighting or fancy stuff like that.


Where do you pull this from? Both the salmosa and the abyssus ARE BIGGER THAN THE SPECTRE. Should be some indicator there telling you that it is probably NOT alot heavier than the two you mention, if at all.


*Grrr* I mostly hate the topic itself because it lends itself to these kinds of posts. A poll about this is just horrible and will help the topic creater in about absolutly no way (except beeing swinged) and the posts themselves are mostly just biased bullshit coming from people with no knowledge. Very very sad. (That doesnt go for all posters in this thread ofc, but the majority...)

I will buy it, and it is simly because there is no other mouse with this type of shape and it is very small and have very good laser WITH 5 BUTTONS (Hate to webbrowse without mouse 4 and 5...) That simple. Steelseries Kinzu that is the smaller version of Xai, has only three buttons and is even abit bigger than spectre - just as a reference.
The rest is just a bonus that you can just turn off if you want anyways and is not the reason I will buy it. I've never liked razer myself but this looks to be something I might like.

I'll let you know what I think of it once I get it. Maybe it blows for all I know, but I sure hope not.

Lastly; the only advice I'd give you for when you purchase something like a mouse would be to go over in your head what you yourself feel is what you want shapewise (ambidextrious or ergonomic), size, Do you have big or small hands etc? Weight? Do you like it to have some resistance and dense feel to it or do you want it to be hyper fast to move around? How many buttons do you need?
After that you just check out different reviews of people that have actually used the mouse and then make a decision based on more data and a more concrete feeling.

Anyway, good luck finding a mouse!
Mada Mada Dane
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
December 05 2010 02:05 GMT
#44
used these

and the accompanying keyboard + headset at Blizzcon and the only thing I can say is that they all sucked pretty bad. They all felt very very cheap and flimsy :/
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lakritzc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden164 Posts
December 05 2010 02:57 GMT
#45
This mouse is pretty uncomfortable, unless you like square-shaped mouses with a plastic feel, the apm techonology is pretty overrated.
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