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RxBorG
Profile Joined July 2010
United States505 Posts
October 04 2010 16:24 GMT
#141
damn, korean apples just look so..... clean
[QUOTE][B]On June 27 2011 03:31 insult wrote:[/B] Haypro hasn't been doing well lately, but when he's in good form he's definitely among the top 10 swedish zerg players. [b][red]User was temp banned for this post.[/red][/b][/QUOTE]
OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
October 04 2010 16:38 GMT
#142
omg all of thier keyboards look so damn good....
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=filco_keyboards,majestouch_87key&pid=fkbn87meb
*drool*
i dunno lol
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
October 04 2010 16:40 GMT
#143
On October 05 2010 01:18 muchadoaboutnothing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 00:59 asdfTT123 wrote:
You can't tell from the pic whether or not he's using one with Cherry MX Blue, Brown, or Black switches. Heck, it could even be Red...there's no way to tell from the pic alone.


Incorrect. MX Blue Filcos have green LEDs, MX Black Filcos have red LEDs.

Since his num lock light is quite clearly blue, it's MX Brown.

Since the logo is silver, it isn't an NKRO model.

It's a Filco Majestouch Tactile Touch.

Well, nice catch there. Though those were all Blue LED(since I have a Brown one)
NKRO model is just some marketing strategy. Who the hell is gonna press more than 6 keys at the same time in an RTS game? or in any games that I can think of.
Terran
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 16:44:05
October 04 2010 16:42 GMT
#144
On October 05 2010 01:18 muchadoaboutnothing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 00:59 asdfTT123 wrote:
You can't tell from the pic whether or not he's using one with Cherry MX Blue, Brown, or Black switches. Heck, it could even be Red...there's no way to tell from the pic alone.


Incorrect. MX Blue Filcos have green LEDs, MX Black Filcos have red LEDs.

Since his num lock light is quite clearly blue, it's MX Brown.

Since the logo is silver, it isn't an NKRO model.

It's a Filco Majestouch Tactile Touch.


Are you absolutely sure? I own both a Majestouch NKRO Tactile Touch (MX Brown) and a Majestouch NKRO Tenkeyless Tactile Click (MX Blue) and they both have blue LED lights with the gold logo. Perhaps it's only the care for the Tenkeyless version (w/o numpad) so you might be right.

But nobody in their right mind should go for Black or Red switches over Brown and Blue, IMO.

EDIT: Nevermind, just checked my Filco Blue board and it's green LEDs. I suppose I thought it was the same since my Browns get all the use.
n.Die_Jaedong <3
muchadoaboutnothing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 16:45:52
October 04 2010 16:45 GMT
#145
On October 05 2010 01:40 Caphe wrote:
Well, nice catch there. Though those were all Blue LED(since I have a Brown one)
NKRO model is just some marketing strategy. Who the hell is gonna press more than 6 keys at the same time in an RTS game? or in any games that I can think of.


NKRO just ensures that any combo will pass.

The non-NKRO Filcos, like most non-NKRO keyboards, have minimum 2 key rollover (some combos of 3 or more will not go through)
CaptainFwiffo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States576 Posts
October 04 2010 17:01 GMT
#146
You can test the roll-over capability of your keyboard here. For example, hold down A, S and X. On most keyboards you'll only get two to register simultaneously. You might find some key combinations that allow many keys to be held down simultaneously, and others that allow two (or even just one on some really poor keyboards). This is a bigger deal in FPS games than RTS games that don't have you holding down lots of keys at once.

There is a different problem called ghosting where multiple simultaneous key-presses will cause keys to register that you never pressed. For example, you might have several keys on the left side of your keyboard pressed, and suddenly a comma will register out of nowhere. Microsoft keyboards are notorious for this.
"Even though they don't drink milk, milk comes out of their nose, disturbingly." - Tasteless
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
October 04 2010 17:03 GMT
#147
On October 05 2010 01:38 OPSavioR wrote:
omg all of thier keyboards look so damn good....
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=filco_keyboards,majestouch_87key&pid=fkbn87meb
*drool*


Best purchase I have made. I will never buy another keyboard.
#1 Kwanro Fan
gruntrush
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada134 Posts
October 04 2010 17:34 GMT
#148
On October 05 2010 02:03 Bosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 01:38 OPSavioR wrote:
omg all of thier keyboards look so damn good....
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=filco_keyboards,majestouch_87key&pid=fkbn87meb
*drool*


Best purchase I have made. I will never buy another keyboard.


I agree, my wife bought me one for my birthday. Now I love her.
Don't worry, That's halo
SpaceYeti
Profile Joined June 2010
United States723 Posts
October 04 2010 17:47 GMT
#149
On the topic of keyboards, as anyone had a chance to test the Razer Black Widow out? I don't believe they are available yet, but I have to imagine they've demo'd them at various conventions, etc.

I'm curious how these compare to the likes of a Filco, etc.
Behavior is a function of its consequences.
OnEMoReTrY
Profile Joined May 2010
United States99 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 17:51:39
October 04 2010 17:49 GMT
#150
I've been using a logitech media elite keyboard for the past 8 or so years. I just purchased a filco w/ cherry blue switches a couple weeks ago. You will need to pry this keyboard out of my cold dead hands. I have been opening notepad up just to type random jibberish occasionally because I am constantly looking for reasons to type on this thing. Well worth the money.

From a strictly performance perspective my WPM went from 135 to 165 as it is much easier to type quickly on then a membrane keyboard, and my average APM went from 330 to 400. My gaming performance has improved in part because I am not as lazy anymore because it doesn't take as much effort to do the commands I want to do. This coming from a 1950~ point player so while I am not a pro at sc2, I feel like I'm decent enough that my experience with this keyboard can be taken for what it's worth.
muchadoaboutnothing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States22 Posts
October 04 2010 17:55 GMT
#151
On October 05 2010 02:47 SpaceYeti wrote:
On the topic of keyboards, as anyone had a chance to test the Razer Black Widow out? I don't believe they are available yet, but I have to imagine they've demo'd them at various conventions, etc.

I'm curious how these compare to the likes of a Filco, etc.


People on Overclock.net have gotten the board early- at least one guy in Singapore bought it from a mall. 2 key rollover (comparable to non-nkro filcos), decent software bundle. OEMed by iOne from what we can tell, but no one has disassembled it yet as far as I am aware
CaptainFwiffo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States576 Posts
October 04 2010 18:17 GMT
#152
There's a thread about the Black Widow on geekhack.org.
"Even though they don't drink milk, milk comes out of their nose, disturbingly." - Tasteless
Hazzah
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland37 Posts
October 04 2010 18:28 GMT
#153
Buying 'his' keyboard wont make you as imba as he is
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17650 Posts
October 04 2010 18:39 GMT
#154
On October 05 2010 03:28 Hazzah wrote:
Buying 'his' keyboard wont make you as imba as he is


Exactly. I really don't get people fascination with pro-gamer equipment. If you're bad, no hardware/peripherals in the world are going to help you. If you're good, you probably already have your likes/dislikes when it comes to such equipment and you're able to decide for yourself.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
October 04 2010 18:41 GMT
#155
The Razer black window looks douche. Don't like the glossy look, you will leave finger smudges all over.

Very happy with my Filco Blue Tenkeyless btw :D
Rillanon.au
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
October 04 2010 18:43 GMT
#156
On October 05 2010 03:39 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 03:28 Hazzah wrote:
Buying 'his' keyboard wont make you as imba as he is


Exactly. I really don't get people fascination with pro-gamer equipment. If you're bad, no hardware/peripherals in the world are going to help you. If you're good, you probably already have your likes/dislikes when it comes to such equipment and you're able to decide for yourself.


This is actually a very good keyboard and would suit people who type a lot e.g. Programmers, Writers etc, it is not exclusive to gamers. So all in all I would say its a worth well investment.
Rillanon.au
rane
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland17 Posts
October 04 2010 19:30 GMT
#157
Okay, this got me interested in mechanical keyboards, but after reading elitekeyboards' FAQ on different switch types I still have no clue which color I should pick for mainly RTS/FPS gaming. Any tips/experiences?
sc2lime
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada513 Posts
October 04 2010 20:00 GMT
#158
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 05 2010 00:25 CaptainFwiffo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2010 23:55 sc2lime wrote:
All you need for the full NKRO is the USB to PS2 adapter that already comes with it.

That is not correct. There are different versions of this keyboard, some have NKRO, some do not. Because the USB HID interface design is limited to 6-key-rollover (plus 4 modifier keys), you must use the PS/2 adapter if you want full NKRO (in practice, you're extremely unlikely to need more than 6-key; you're going to have one hand on the mouse while gaming, and your other hand typically has five fingers). The NKRO versions are about $25 more expensive.

The 87-key (tenkeyless) versions are all NKRO, as are the 104 key ones with the gold Filco logo (again, only when used with the PS/2 adapter). The 104 key ones with the silver logo are not NKRO even with the PS/2 adapter.

For reference:
Filco Majestouch 104-key
Filco Majestouch 87-key (tenkeyless)
Filco Majestouch numeric keypad


My bad. I thought it was the tenkeyless version.
CaptainFwiffo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States576 Posts
October 04 2010 20:13 GMT
#159
It's up to personal preference. Ideally one would get a chance to try them in a store before investing in a keyboard. Probably the only mechanical keyboard you will easily find in a brick and mortar store is the Razer Black Widow which has Cherry Blues. Here would be my summary:

Cherry MX Blue - If you like a clicking sound, or you're used to an old-skool mechanical keyboard like a Model M these are the ones for you. Great for typing, great for gaming if you like the clickyness. Has both a tactile "bump" and the clicking sound to let you know it's activated (you don't need to bottom it out like a membrane keyboard).

Cherry MX Brown - Similar feel and a little lighter than Blue. Has a light tactile "bump" in the keystroke to let you know it's activated, but no "click". This is probably the "safe" choice. It's quieter than a blue, so if you have a quiet work environment or just don't like the clicking sound. Great for typing or for gaming or any other use other than scuba diving. If it matters to you, both Tester and Fruit Dealer seem to be using Filcos with this switch.

I prefer this switch, and I bought my keyboard primarily for typing on all day. It would still be my first choice if I were to get a keyboard primarily for gaming.

Cherry MX Black - Linear switch, heavier than Blue or Brown. Some people think these are better for FPS games, but not everyone agrees. Most agree these are inferior for typing. There is no tactile or audio feedback. In theory, you could double hit keys very quickly with this switch with less finger movement if you had a good feel for it. The quietest of the three (even browns tend to be louder than membrane keyboards).

Other Cherry colors (e.g. reds, clears) are rare, mostly only found in specialized POS keyboards and the like, probably aren't deserving of any particular mystique.

Other switches:
Alps - poor man's cherries. A small minority of people really like them.
Buckling spring - Old skool, loud as hell clicky keyboards like an IBM Model M. If people hear you typing on one of these, they know you're freaking serious (clackity clackity clack).
Topre - Something completely different, all keyboards featuring this switch are north of $200. I've typed on one once, and it's very unique. Very very smooth capacitive switch.
Scissor switch - laptop style keyboards.

If you just don't know, Cherry MX Brown is a safe bet. You're not going to get one and think "oh, this is rubbish." It will be obvious that you're using a quality, luxurious object.
"Even though they don't drink milk, milk comes out of their nose, disturbingly." - Tasteless
TheOGBlitzKrieg
Profile Joined June 2010
United States346 Posts
October 04 2010 21:18 GMT
#160
am interested in this keyboard was looking it up... what is the difference between the nkro model and the model without nkro? i see it says nkro is just so you can hold down multiple buttons and it registers them all? so without it it still has nkro but only up to 6 keys? i don't really get it if anyone can explain it to me do i really need this nkro model?
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