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Vorenus
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil1 Post
October 05 2010 17:44 GMT
#181
Damn, and I just bought a keyboard with black switches (more specifically the Steelseries 6Gv2) because I thought they were the best for gaming
So the brown ones are actually the best for RTS?
Too late now I guess...
leetchaos
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States395 Posts
October 05 2010 17:44 GMT
#182
On October 06 2010 02:34 TheOGBlitzKrieg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 02:31 leetchaos wrote:
I've been looking at getting one of these keyboards for months now. One thing that I'm really curious about is the non-NKRO boards. They do indeed have 2-KRO in certain situations but so does my g15 and I've never run into it. The keys needed to trigger it are combinations I will never use.

I'm wondering if I get the non-NKRO board then one day go to play CS and find I cant press shift(or control)+w+a+r.

Does anyone know of a diagram or document that specifies which keys do/do not cause blockage? Or better yet does anyone own a non-NKRO FILCO that can test?


i just ordered the non-NKRO model yesterday should get it by the weekend i can check it out then... also was wondering if anyone knows a place where you can order custom keycaps for this board


I remember reading a discussion about the caps at http://geekhack.org/ but I don't recall what the conclusion was, you need to make an account to use the search function as far as I can tell.
leetchaos
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States395 Posts
October 05 2010 17:47 GMT
#183
On October 06 2010 02:44 Vorenus wrote:
Damn, and I just bought a keyboard with black switches (more specifically the Steelseries 6Gv2) because I thought they were the best for gaming
So the brown ones are actually the best for RTS?
Too late now I guess...


Its all personal preference, some people enjoy the black ones. My guess is the OGS guys are used to the old korean keyboards that do have a tactile feel and somewhat clicky sound.
CaptainFwiffo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States576 Posts
October 05 2010 18:27 GMT
#184
Really, really don't sweat the switch thing. If you have a keyboard, and you like how it feels, and you feel it is accurate for you, and you like the layout, then you should be happy. Don't get worked up because some idiot on the Internet says you're going to lose 100 points on the ladder because your keyboard's switch stems are the wrong color. The difference is really pretty small between different Cherries.

Be zen about it; there is no perfect keyboard, no perfect mousepad, no perfect monitor, no perfect girlfriend. Be satisfied with "damn good".
"Even though they don't drink milk, milk comes out of their nose, disturbingly." - Tasteless
Shodaa
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada404 Posts
October 05 2010 21:07 GMT
#185
On October 06 2010 02:44 Vorenus wrote:
Damn, and I just bought a keyboard with black switches (more specifically the Steelseries 6Gv2) because I thought they were the best for gaming
So the brown ones are actually the best for RTS?
Too late now I guess...


Black and brown are both great for gaming (and RTS). It's just personnal preference. Fruitdealers uses brown switches but IdrA has a steelseries 7g with black switches.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/401120/1/Shodaa/
CaptainFwiffo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States576 Posts
October 05 2010 21:20 GMT
#186
So Cherry MX based keyboards are great for Zerg (Idra, Fruit Dealer), and for Protoss (sSKS), but what's the best keyboard for Terran, HMM?

(Sorry, I just can't stop engaging in self parody of my own thread)
"Even though they don't drink milk, milk comes out of their nose, disturbingly." - Tasteless
DeadlyStar
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany82 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 21:59:07
October 05 2010 21:58 GMT
#187
On October 06 2010 06:20 CaptainFwiffo wrote:
So Cherry MX based keyboards are great for Zerg (Idra, Fruit Dealer), and for Protoss (sSKS), but what's the best keyboard for Terran, HMM?

(Sorry, I just can't stop engaging in self parody of my own thread)

i've seen terrans in gsl using filco keyboards too, but cant remember who it was :D
sl10
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada37 Posts
October 05 2010 23:59 GMT
#188
Anyone know where I can get a cheaper alternative to the FILCO [ in Canada]? 100 seems a bit steep for me for a keyboard considering my budget ><
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 18:51:32
October 06 2010 00:02 GMT
#189
On October 06 2010 06:07 Shodaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 02:44 Vorenus wrote:
Damn, and I just bought a keyboard with black switches (more specifically the Steelseries 6Gv2) because I thought they were the best for gaming
So the brown ones are actually the best for RTS?
Too late now I guess...


Black and brown are both great for gaming (and RTS). It's just personnal preference. Fruitdealers uses brown switches but IdrA has a steelseries 7g with black switches.

Lol buying a new keyboard isn't going to make you play any faster. Why don't you buy a better computer instead of a better keyboard lol he already has a nice one it's fine.

edit: as by request of fake steve

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sc2lime
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada513 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 00:14:42
October 06 2010 00:13 GMT
#190
On October 06 2010 08:59 sl10 wrote:
Anyone know where I can get a cheaper alternative to the FILCO [ in Canada]? 100 seems a bit steep for me for a keyboard considering my budget ><

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?minorcatid=101&subminorcatid=1065

Well for some reason ncix is the only Canadian website I could find that sells mechanical keyboards. In that list, the Solidtek KB-6600BU is the only one lower than $100 (although I think it has Cherry Blue switches).
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
October 06 2010 00:30 GMT
#191
There's also the Rosewill RK-9000 which is apparently a very decent alternative to the filco

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201040&Tpk=rosewill mechanical
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
October 06 2010 00:40 GMT
#192
On October 05 2010 22:17 CaptainFwiffo wrote:
I just realized the Black Widow has an unscuplted profile (i.e. it's flat and not cupped like a normal keyboard). That's a major strike against its ergonomics.

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I'm guessing, that is a mistake in that particular 3D graphic. This is from the US Cherry website:

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Found here: http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm
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EZjijy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1039 Posts
October 06 2010 02:38 GMT
#193
On October 06 2010 08:59 sl10 wrote:
Anyone know where I can get a cheaper alternative to the FILCO [ in Canada]? 100 seems a bit steep for me for a keyboard considering my budget ><

Mechanical keyboards are just expensive in general. There probably aren't any that are significantly cheaper than 100.
Smgzy
Profile Joined May 2010
United States187 Posts
October 06 2010 03:59 GMT
#194
I am using the same exact keyboard and I can vouch that is the best keyboard that I have ever used. This keyboard has been highly recommended on teamliquid on a bunch of different threads and for a good reason. It's in its own league when it comes to keyboards if you've only used membrane style switches.

I know this keyboard will last my whole life because unlike cheap keyboards, you can replace all of the switches individually. I love it and I will never change from my flico.
TheOGBlitzKrieg
Profile Joined June 2010
United States346 Posts
October 06 2010 04:21 GMT
#195
really excited to get my FILCO :D
Bxk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States53 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 04:25:23
October 06 2010 04:22 GMT
#196
On October 06 2010 08:59 sl10 wrote:
Anyone know where I can get a cheaper alternative to the FILCO [ in Canada]? 100 seems a bit steep for me for a keyboard considering my budget ><


http://www.siig.com/ViewProduct.aspx?pn=JK-US0112-S1 If I read this correctly, this has Alps keyswitches. I've seen it for sale for ~$80 at a few places. I can't really vouch for Alps or SIIG, because I've never used them before. Just giving you the link because you might be interested, but try to find reviews first

Edit: http://www.overclock.net/computer-peripherals/491752-mechanical-keyboard-guide.html found this forum post, very comprehensive, and halfway down, has prices/pros/cons of various mechanical keyboards
lu_cid
Profile Joined April 2008
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 04:30:24
October 06 2010 04:23 GMT
#197
Cherry mx black boards still make a clickedy-clack sound, but it's not the switches. It's the sound of the keys bottoming out, which certainly happens while gaming.


On October 05 2010 06:18 TheOGBlitzKrieg wrote:
am interested in this keyboard was looking it up... what is the difference between the nkro model and the model without nkro? i see it says nkro is just so you can hold down multiple buttons and it registers them all? so without it it still has nkro but only up to 6 keys? i don't really get it if anyone can explain it to me do i really need this nkro model?


I don't think NKRO is necessary or helpful for SC.

Also, a big LOL to people who are buying a filco kb because it's what Cool uses. Don't get me wrong it's good for gaming, but much more noticeable for me when touch-typing or programming.
CaptainFwiffo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States576 Posts
October 06 2010 04:47 GMT
#198
On October 06 2010 09:40 Ropid wrote:
I'm guessing, that is a mistake in that particular 3D graphic. This is from the US Cherry website:

That's the profile of a cherry keyboard. The Black Widow is a Razor keyboard using Cherry MX switches.

"Even though they don't drink milk, milk comes out of their nose, disturbingly." - Tasteless
CaptainFwiffo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States576 Posts
October 06 2010 04:56 GMT
#199
I've heard good things about the Rosewill keyboard. The fit and finish apparently isn't quite as nice as a Filco, but it should feel very similar and has an identical layout. It uses Cherry MX Blue switches, so it will be clicky. It does have NKRO and is about 30 bucks cheaper than the equivalent Filco.

If I were looking for a NKRO 104-key keyboard with Cherry Blues, it would probably be my pick; the price is difficult to beat (in North America - there are other options in Asia.)
"Even though they don't drink milk, milk comes out of their nose, disturbingly." - Tasteless
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 05:04:56
October 06 2010 04:59 GMT
#200
On October 06 2010 08:59 sl10 wrote:
Anyone know where I can get a cheaper alternative to the FILCO [ in Canada]? 100 seems a bit steep for me for a keyboard considering my budget ><

I got my mechanical keyboarD (which had Cherry MX browns) from eBay for 11.50 plus like 23$ shipping to canada from las vegas.

It was a Point of Sale Keyboard, so it has a few extra keys and/or different key placement.
http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=10581&d=1275628556

Another thing that's fantastic about the keyboard but not on most or any gaming keyboards is the fact that it has double-shot key caps, which means that the labels on the keys will never wear out because it's actually two different colors of plastic used instead of just laser etching or stickers.

I would probably never pay more than 50-55$ for a keyboard, but that didn't mean I had to settle for rubber domes.

If you stop by geekhack.org and read certain topics, you'll see that some of them got INSANE deals on keyboards, such as at thrift stores (400+$ like-new ergonomic keyboard at a thrift store = LOL).
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