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mcneebs
Canada391 Posts
Should I use max DPI and turn my in game sensitivity down, or leave it as is? Will it be more precise if I do? Should I just spend the time getting used to a higher sensitivity? I'm an old CS guy so my sensitivity is quite low compared to most RTS players. Also, I already have mouse acceleration off, since that's bound to come up. | ||
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Kratisto
United States199 Posts
Also, remember to turn off Mouse Acceleration (or "Enhanced Pointer Precision", as Windows likes to call it). The difference is night and day. (Control Panel > Mouse). | ||
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ShinyGerbil
Canada519 Posts
Also, i recommend you find an ingame sensitivity identical to the speed of your mouse outside of the game. this gives you a lot of practice and awareness about mouse control even when you're not playing the game. (this will be easy to adjust if your native resolution is the same as your sc2 resolution, and a bit trickier otherwise). As an anecdote, I used to be into the whole 'omg more sensitivity = better player!' thing. every few months, i would increase my sensitivity by 1 bar on my 1800dpi razer diamondback 3g. At the end, i was at the 2nd highest bar (1600 dpi and change, i think). I could control it reasonably, but at a lan tournament one of the top Starcraft Brood War players in canada )ToT(Aerials asked to use my computer for something, and noted that he could barely use my mouse at all, and that you really don't want or need it too sensitive to be a top player. As soon as I got back used to regular sensitivity, I found it way easier to improve my control in general. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On July 13 2010 02:58 Grebliv wrote: That's actually not right about low sens and dpi, dpi is just accuracy; which is needed for high sens since otherwise you might start skipping pixels to meet the sensitivity requirement (mouse moving 1 inch should translate to some screen movement, movement being to large/long for the mouse's dpi capabilities = skips pixels to make up for it). Almost all fps players still use their damn old 400dpi mice that worked (not all do, some track bad; again not because of dpi they just do) or some newer mouse trying to replicate the old feel since most of those older mice are hard to get and some of the newest stuff has better tracking (again not dpi, just that they stopped messing up with their lazer sensors as bad). Mice don't mess up in cs because of dpi, they do for other reasons. Note that the first generation of lazer mice did horribly for fps since they couldn't track at higher speeds, even though their dpi was higher. This (pixel skipping) though only happens at such ridiculously high sensitivities at high resolutions that it's in 99% of cases not happening and in most of the rest neglegible. 400dpi is enough, gg no re really, for almost everyone the extra dpi doesn't do anything that extra sens couldn't take care of in exactly the same way. The ones that need the dpi usually have a setup where they wouldn't be any more accurate from not skipping pixels because their sens is either best descriped by the word lol, or they are using a movie theater screen at 10k by 7k res. All in all, dpi is about the 25th most important thing about a mouse after color, noise and well just about anything. What you should worry about is tracking, (10x more so if you also play fps since rts is way more lenient on speed requirements, google the mouse and find stuff from esreality, a site filled with quake, mouse and sensitivity Everything he said is right (except he should be calling DPI CPI  ) | ||
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mcneebs
Canada391 Posts
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On July 30 2010 13:51 Kratisto wrote: I never want to use the DPI switch buttons to go higher, so I always leave my mouse at the maximum DPI and turn my sensitivity down in Windows. It's technically more precise, but if you're not doing it for the high sensitivity and on a huge resolution, you probably won't notice. Also, remember to turn off Mouse Acceleration (or "Enhanced Pointer Precision", as Windows likes to call it). The difference is night and day. (Control Panel > Mouse). Lol, I just turned off Enhanced Pointer Precision and now my mouse is sooooooooooooooooo slow  Should I just crank up the mouse speed? Because I misclick everything now  | ||
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Malgrif
Canada1095 Posts
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Aim Here
Scotland672 Posts
On July 30 2010 14:32 Saechiis wrote: Lol, I just turned off Enhanced Pointer Precision and now my mouse is sooooooooooooooooo slow Should I just crank up the mouse speed? Because I misclick everything now Better to crank up the dpi to whatever you're comfortable with, if you can. If you bump up the software sensitivity, then the mouse will skip pixels. | ||
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necros
United States85 Posts
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On July 30 2010 15:10 Aim Here wrote: Better to crank up the dpi to whatever you're comfortable with, if you can. If you bump up the software sensitivity, then the mouse will skip pixels. Hmmm, I've already started adapting to the settings and my accuracy has become notably better actually  It's still bothering that the mouse moves slower though, I play at 1900x1080 and I can't get the mouse to the other end of the screen in one sweep any more | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
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Daewon
127 Posts
http://www.overclock.net/computer-peripherals/173255-cs-s-mouse-optimization-guide.html | ||
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DemiSe
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Demi9OD
United States56 Posts
You probably played Broodwar with a 400 CPI mouse, and if you didn't, most pros do. You definitely played Broodwar at 640 by 480 resolution. In RTS games, as the resolution increases, so must your CPI to maintain the same on-screen mouse speed. Use a simple ratio to make higher res games feel like Broodwar did with a 400 CPI mouse. We'll ignore the implications of widescreen monitors. Broodwar standard 400 CPI / 640 width pixels = .66~ High res RTS If you play at 1280 by 1024 resolution, you want 850 CPI (1280*.66) If you play at 1680 by 1050 resolution, you want 1100 CPI (1680*.66). If you play at 1920 by 1200 resolution, you want 1280 CPI (1920*.66). | ||
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automocc
United States40 Posts
*edit* sorry for bumping an old thread! | ||
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Daewon
127 Posts
On September 01 2010 01:51 automocc wrote: forget the math, just play with the settings in windows and in game until you find whats most comfortable. if it is not precise enough, you will eventually notice it when you get better, and can adjust the settings again from there. *edit* sorry for bumping an old thread! If you are gonna bump it, at least give propor advice. Everyone (except you) knows to leave the windows slider at 6/11, unless of course you prefer to be less accurate, it's not exactly news. Only change DPI for sensitivity. | ||
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