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zingmars
Latvia189 Posts
Anyway http://www.dateks.lv/cenas/21/44795_amd_athlon_ii_x3_445.php - Would this Triple core CPU be okay? ^_^ Also, For the motherboards - There's this Gigabyte mobo http://www.dateks.lv/cenas/63/48043_gigabyte_ga_880gm_d2h.php and there's this MSI mobo (they're using the chipset. Not sure what's the difference except for the brand name) http://www.dateks.lv/cenas/63/48837_microstar_880gm_e41.php Also what GPU would you recommend putting in it? | ||
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Failsafe
United States1298 Posts
Not familiar with this process, and would appreciate some assistance choosing parts. What is your budget? Anywhere from $1,250-$1,750 (USD). Don't worry about the monitor, keyboard, mouse, OS, or any other peripherals. What is your resolution? The higher the better, probably What are you using it for? Work (Word / Excel / PowerPoint / compiling code / etc.) Games, particularly SC2 Photoshop Playing movies What is your upgrade cycle? Arbitrary When do you plan on building it? Within a month. Do you plan on overclocking? No. Do you need an Operating System? Yes, probably Windows 7? Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Need advice Where are you buying your parts from? Probably Newegg Computer case needs: Preferably a larger case as they're probably easier to work with? Preferably quiet and relatively nondescript (not a ton of LEDs) | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
Intel Core i5-750 2x PNY XLR8 VCGGTX4601XPB-OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) OC 1GB 2x G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Corsair Force CSSD-F80GBP2-BRKT 2.5" 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB SILVERSTONE RAVEN RV02-BW Matte black 0.8mm Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case SILVERSTONE ST75F-P 750W LG Black DVD Burner - Bulk LightScribe Support - OEM I wouldn't use these exact parts but this was my instant general idea of a build costing that much could probably find slightly better parts here and there for the price but the idea was i5-750/760 and dual 460's 1gb in a good case, and the only reason i went with the cheap ram was for 8 gigs you also didn't want to oc so cheap ram works fine, also the 8 gigs was for photoshop lol and that's about it, if you're not really using 64bit photoshop al the time 4 gigs is plenty esp with supplementing the gpu's ram into the equation now. Comes out at around 1500 so after tax(depending on state) and shipping it would be around 1700 Ocing would bring out better results on the cpu and gpu though... | ||
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Firkraag8
Sweden1006 Posts
I'm about to upgrade to an i5-760 system, and will be streaming very often! Thanks in advance.  | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
Faster cpu or a dedicated encoding would do better. | ||
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Firkraag8
Sweden1006 Posts
Thanks.I was gonna get 2x of http://www.inet.se/artikel/5315055/corsair-4gb-ddr3-1600mhz-xms3 for 8gig Can you help me pick a good pair if 4GB is all i need? I was thinking maybe one of these: http://www.inet.se/artikel/5304331/corsair-4gb-2x2048mb-1600mhz-xms3-dhx http://www.inet.se/artikel/5305587/corsair-4gb-2x2048mb-1600mhz-dominator-dhx http://www.inet.se/artikel/5305578/corsair-4gb-2x2048mb-1600mhz-dominator-gt-dhx- | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
This is an awesome thread. | ||
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Nue
United States25 Posts
I want an i7-950, but other than that I'm open to suggestions on anything. What is your budget? Anywhere between 1000 to 1800. Exclude keyboard/mice/os and accessories. What is your resolution? The higher the better, at least 1280x1200 What are you using it for? lots of gaming, mainly SC2, WoW, and d3 if it ever comes out. Lol What is your upgrade cycle? Within 2-3 years. When do you plan on building it? Before 2011. Do you plan on overclocking? um maybe, I'll take advice on whether or not to. don't think I'll need it though Do you need an Operating System? if it comes with the system then sure, windows 7 64 bit only Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? no Where are you buying your parts from? anywhere cheapest. prob tigerdirect and/or newegg. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
With a budget of up to $1800, you can really get some nice stuff. Here's a start: i7-950 and Asus Sabertooth X58 EVGA GTX 470 G.Skill 2x3GB DDR3 1600 RAM OCZ Vertex 2 120GB Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB LG DVD+RW Cooler Master 690ii Advanced and Silent Pro 600W The above is a lot less than $1800. If you don't like SSDs, you could obviously drop the Vertex 2 and get a normal 7200 rpm HDD instead of the 5400rpm 2TB drive. You could get a nicer case and PSU, but there's not much point if you're not adding a second GPU or doing heavy overclocking. I'm sure you could find a few better deals on certain things like the GPU and SSD if you wait around. | ||
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zingmars
Latvia189 Posts
http://www.dateks.lv/cenas/63/48043_gigabyte_ga_880gm_d2h.php Anyway, which GPU do you suggest me to buy for this configuration? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Firkraag8
Sweden1006 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b135/Firkraag8/inet.png) Decided to pick: http://www.inet.se/artikel/5305583/corsair-4gb-2x2048mb-1600mhz-dominator-gt-dhx- Should i be able to hit some good overclocking with this? Just placed down the order! Hoping to turn this into a good rig for streaming, with a bit of tweaking. | ||
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ggofthejungle
Romania392 Posts
Motherboard [SLI] Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R w/ 4x PCI-E 2.0 x16 with an HD 5870 videocard. All great but I didn't realize I have no VGI output. I don't have a DVI / HDMI monitor - I will get one tomorrow, but can I use my old video card to see if the computer works? old videocard : Radeon X600 256 MB (idk even know what motherboard) Can I leave the 5870 in there and put the X600 in at the same time or is that a bad idea? | ||
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FragKrag
United States11554 Posts
Firkraag8 that will be great for overclocking. I hope you manage to push those dominators to like 2000mhz or something The H50 will take your i5 760 well over 3.6GHz | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On October 27 2010 11:12 ggofthejungle wrote: So I got my computer, Motherboard [SLI] Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R w/ 4x PCI-E 2.0 x16 with an HD 5870 videocard. All great but I didn't realize I have no VGI output. I don't have a DVI / HDMI monitor - I will get one tomorrow, but can I use my old video card to see if the computer works? old videocard : Radeon X600 256 MB (idk even know what motherboard) Can I leave the 5870 in there and put the X600 in at the same time or is that a bad idea? The 5870 should have came with a DVI to VGA adapter. | ||
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city42
1656 Posts
There's one troubling thing that I would like to get some feedback on, though. I have been monitoring the temperatures with CPUID Hardware Monitor, and while the GTX 460 is fine, the Phenom II X4 955 CPU seems to be running a little hot. I tested it with an SC2 single player mission (normal/medium settings because I'm used to them), and all 4 cores reached a maximum of 54-55 C. While idling, the temperatures are anywhere from 36-39 C. Apparently it should be running quite a bit cooler than this, especially because I'm not overclocking at all. Is it possible I didn't seat the CPU heatsink properly? The HAF 912 case has 2 fans and a ton of ventilation, so I don't think that's the problem. Maybe the thermal pad that comes on the heatsink is just crappy and insufficient? I'm at a loss here. For reference, the GTX 460 idles at 29 C and only reached 44 C on SC2. | ||
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snowbird
Germany2044 Posts
On October 28 2010 00:13 city42 wrote: First, let me say thank you to everyone who helped me out in this thread. I was able to put the PC together without too much hassle and everything is working now. There's one troubling thing that I would like to get some feedback on, though. I have been monitoring the temperatures with CPUID Hardware Monitor, and while the GTX 460 is fine, the Phenom II X4 955 CPU seems to be running a little hot. I tested it with an SC2 single player mission (normal/medium settings because I'm used to them), and all 4 cores reached a maximum of 54-55 C. While idling, the temperatures are anywhere from 36-39 C. Apparently it should be running quite a bit cooler than this, especially because I'm not overclocking at all. Is it possible I didn't seat the CPU heatsink properly? The HAF 912 case has 2 fans and a ton of ventilation, so I don't think that's the problem. Maybe the thermal pad that comes on the heatsink is just crappy and insufficient? I'm at a loss here. For reference, the GTX 460 idles at 29 C and only reached 44 C on SC2. I also have a 955BE + GTX460 combo. 55° when playing SC2 seems hot considering youre not overclocking (62° is max temp. for the CPU according to the official specs). You should check the VCore voltage, I'm guessing it's too high. You have probably set it to auto in the BIOS, but auto will sometimes result in higher than needed VCore. When I left it on auto I got like 1.45v, which is absolutely not needed. Standard voltage for the 955BE is 1,375v, which is more than enough. I overclocked to 3,5Ghz on 1,375v so if you're going to stay on stock speed you could even lower the VCore some more. I'd suggest you put it on 1,375v manually and check the temps to see if that helps. Edit: I forgot to mention that Vcore has a huge influence on the temperature. The higher the hotter. | ||
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IPS.ZeRo
Germany1142 Posts
On October 28 2010 00:13 city42 wrote: First, let me say thank you to everyone who helped me out in this thread. I was able to put the PC together without too much hassle and everything is working now. There's one troubling thing that I would like to get some feedback on, though. I have been monitoring the temperatures with CPUID Hardware Monitor, and while the GTX 460 is fine, the Phenom II X4 955 CPU seems to be running a little hot. I tested it with an SC2 single player mission (normal/medium settings because I'm used to them), and all 4 cores reached a maximum of 54-55 C. While idling, the temperatures are anywhere from 36-39 C. Apparently it should be running quite a bit cooler than this, especially because I'm not overclocking at all. Is it possible I didn't seat the CPU heatsink properly? The HAF 912 case has 2 fans and a ton of ventilation, so I don't think that's the problem. Maybe the thermal pad that comes on the heatsink is just crappy and insufficient? I'm at a loss here. For reference, the GTX 460 idles at 29 C and only reached 44 C on SC2. Are you using the standard heatsink? I think that one has push pins right? try to push all of them again and look at the back of your board (i think the haf 912 has a hole there) if all four pins stick out. Also maybe you moved the thermal pad out of the correct position while mounting the heatsink? | ||
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city42
1656 Posts
On October 28 2010 00:39 snowbird wrote: I also have a 955BE + GTX460 combo. 55° when playing SC2 seems hot considering youre not overclocking (62° is max temp. for the CPU according to the official specs). You should check the VCore voltage, I'm guessing it's too high. You have probably set it to auto in the BIOS, but auto will sometimes result in higher than needed VCore. When I left it on auto I got like 1.45v, which is absolutely not needed. Standard voltage for the 955BE is 1,375v, which is more than enough. I overclocked to 3,5Ghz on 1,375v so if you're going to stay on stock speed you could even lower the VCore some more. I'd suggest you put it on 1,375v manually and check the temps to see if that helps. Edit: I forgot to mention that Vcore has a huge influence on the temperature. The higher the hotter. My motherboard had it set at 1.400, and I put it down to 1.350 which is the stock value. The maximum temperature now seems to be 53 C, which isn't a dramatic difference but every little bit helps. Thanks for the advice, I had no idea that the motherboard would push the voltage up by default. On October 28 2010 00:42 IPS.ZeRo wrote: Are you using the standard heatsink? I think that one has push pins right? try to push all of them again and look at the back of your board (i think the haf 912 has a hole there) if all four pins stick out. Also maybe you moved the thermal pad out of the correct position while mounting the heatsink? I think push pins are for intel models, as this one just has a latch. I'm not sure whether or not the thermal pad was moved, but I can't take a look because I have no thermal paste to apply when reseating. I think I may have to buy some, though, because these temperatures definitely aren't natural. I have done quit a bit of googling and people get similar temperatures while OCing at 3.8 ghz and 1.5V, so I should definitely be able to get the max temperature into the mid-to-upper 40s. The thermal pastes I can get my hands on easiest are Arctic Silver 5 and Ceramique...are those any good? | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
Where are you getting them? I can help look. Some good ones are Tuniq TX-2/3, Arctic Cooling MX-2/3/4, OCZ Freeze Extreme, IC Diamond 7, Shin-Etsu, Noctua | ||
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