Computer Build Resource Thread - Page 98

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city42

1656 Posts

October 27 2010 22:11 GMT

#1941

On October 28 2010 06:49 R04R wrote:
No, no Arctic Silver.

Where are you getting them? I can help look.

Some good ones are Tuniq TX-2/3, Arctic Cooling MX-2/3/4, OCZ Freeze Extreme, IC Diamond 7, Shin-Etsu, Noctua

Radioshack has the Arctic Silver products, so it would save the shipping time. As long as 51-53 C temperatures in SC2 won't damage the CPU for the next week, I'm willing to get something else off newegg if it's better.

mahnini

United States6862 Posts

October 27 2010 22:18 GMT

#1942

thermal paste doesn't really matter all that much, at most you are shaving off 4-5C at load (for which you end up paying around $10+ for). if you aren't planning on overclocking i would just go with the cheapest you can find.

PattyJ

United States153 Posts

October 28 2010 04:16 GMT

#1943

What is your budget?
Looking to ceiling around ~$300 overall

What is your resolution?
1280x1024

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming (SC2, WoW), photoshop, and video editing

What is your upgrade cycle?
Arbitrary

When do you plan on building it?
Immediately, 1-2 weeks

Do you plan on overclocking?
If it's recommended by others, my knowledge of computer parts is still developing

Do you need an Operating System?
Not if I'm just upgrading, right?

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not right now with such a limited budget

Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg, Tigerdirect, Amazon

My current specs:
+ Show Spoiler +

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System Information
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Time of this report: 10/27/2010, 22:49:30
Machine name: HP25931281049
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
System Model: HP Compaq dc5700 Small Form Factor
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 3584MB RAM
Page File: 1174MB used, 3769MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce4 MX 4000
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0185&SUBSYS_00001B13&REV_C1
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.9371 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 4527488 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 3994624 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-42C5-11CF-385C-0A2060C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0185
SubSys ID: 0x00001B13
Revision ID: 0x00C1
Revision ID: 0x00C1
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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Description: Realtek HD Audio output
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0260&SUBSYS_103C2808&REV_1004
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RtkHDAud.sys
Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5772 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 1/6/2009 20:00:08, 4968448 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 8000, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 1, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: Realtek HD Audio Input
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: RtkHDAud.sys
Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5772 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 1/6/2009 20:00:08, 4968448 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x41
Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic
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DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: n/a
Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x00DD
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x2830
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 4/13/2008 13:45:37, 59520 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 2/27/2006 21:00:00, 4736 bytes

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x00DD
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 4/13/2008 13:39:48, 14592 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/13/2008 13:39:47, 24576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/13/2008 19:13:20, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/13/2008 13:39:47, 24576 bytes
|
+ PS/2 Compatible Mouse
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f13
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 4/13/2008 14:18:00, 52480 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/13/2008 13:39:47, 23040 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/13/2008 19:13:20, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/13/2008 13:39:47, 23040 bytes

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DirectPlay Service Providers
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DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run
DirectPlay Test Result: Not run
Registry: OK

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DirectPlay Adapters
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DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider: Sierra Wireless USB 598 EVDO Modem #4
DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider: Standard Modem
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM3
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM4
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM5
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Wireless Network Connection 13 - IPv4 -

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DirectPlay Voice Codecs
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Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s
Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s
Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s
MS-PCM 64 kbit/s
MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s
Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s
TrueSpeech(TM) 8.6 kbit/s

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 16.5 GB
Total Space: 66.1 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD800JD-60LSA5

Drive: D:
Free Space: 3.7 GB
Total Space: 10.2 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD800JD-60LSA5

Drive: I:
Free Space: 7.6 GB
Total Space: 238.4 GB
File System: FAT32
Model: WD 2500JB External USB Device

Drive: E:
Model: HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-H30N
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.5593 (English), 5/2/2008 05:49:40, 62976 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: Intel(R) Q963/Q965 Processor to I/O Controller Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2990&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&B1BFB68&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_284B&SUBSYS_2808103C&REV_02\3&B1BFB68&0&D8
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 5.10.0001.5013 (English), 4/13/2008 11:36:05, 144384 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family PCI Express Root Port 2 Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2841&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&B1BFB68&0&E1
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:36:44, 68224 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 283F
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_283F&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&B1BFB68&0&E0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:36:44, 68224 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 283A
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_283A&SUBSYS_2808103C&REV_02\3&B1BFB68&0&D7
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:35, 30208 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:36, 143872 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 19:12:08, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:37, 59520 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hccoin.dll, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 19:11:54, 7168 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 2836
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2836&SUBSYS_2808103C&REV_02\3&B1BFB68&0&EF
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:35, 30208 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:36, 143872 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 19:12:08, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:37, 59520 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hccoin.dll, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 19:11:54, 7168 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2835
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2835&SUBSYS_2808103C&REV_02\3&B1BFB68&0&D1
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:35, 20608 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:36, 143872 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 19:12:08, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:37, 59520 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2834
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2834&SUBSYS_2808103C&REV_02\3&B1BFB68&0&D0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:35, 20608 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:36, 143872 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 19:12:08, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:37, 59520 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2831
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2831&SUBSYS_2808103C&REV_02\3&B1BFB68&0&E9
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:35, 20608 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:36, 143872 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 19:12:08, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:37, 59520 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2830
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2830&SUBSYS_2808103C&REV_02\3&B1BFB68&0&E8
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:35, 20608 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:36, 143872 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 19:12:08, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:37, 59520 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 2825
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2825&SUBSYS_2808103C&REV_02\3&B1BFB68&0&FD
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 16:51:52, 3328 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:40:29, 24960 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:40:30, 96512 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH8 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 2820
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2820&SUBSYS_2808103C&REV_02\3&B1BFB68&0&FA
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 16:51:52, 3328 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:40:29, 24960 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:40:30, 96512 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH8/ICH8R Family LPC Interface Controller - 2810
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2810&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&B1BFB68&0&F8
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\isapnp.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:36:41, 37248 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_F2\3&B1BFB68&0&F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:36:44, 68224 bytes

Name: Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet
Device ID: PCI\VEN_14E4&DEV_167B&SUBSYS_2808103C&REV_02\4&1D1FEE1&0&00E1
Driver: n/a

Name: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0185&SUBSYS_00001B13&REV_C1\4&3721BFB3&0&20F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 3994624 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nv4_disp.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 4527488 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 159810 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvhwvid.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 581632 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvapi.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 212992 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvoglnt.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 5644288 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcpl.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 7700480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmctray.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 86016 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwddi.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvnt4cpl.dll, 6.14.0010.11060 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 286720 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmccs.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 229376 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvdisps.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 5619712 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvdispsr.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 5255168 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvgames.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 3047424 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvgamesr.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 3203072 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmccss.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 188416 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmccssr.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 458752 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmobls.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 888832 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmoblsr.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 2859008 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvvitvs.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 2924544 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvvitvsr.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 2973696 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwss.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 1236992 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwssr.dll, 6.14.0010.9371 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 1732608 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpl.hlp, 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 177897 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcplen.hlp, 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 55444 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcod.dll, 1.00.0000.0035 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 35840 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcodins.dll, 1.00.0000.0035 (English), 10/22/2006 13:22:00, 35840 bytes

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DirectX Components
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ddraw.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:51 279552 bytes
ddrawex.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:51 27136 bytes
dxapi.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 2/27/2006 21:00:00 10496 bytes
d3d8.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:51 1179648 bytes
d3d8thk.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:51 8192 bytes
d3d9.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:51 1689088 bytes
d3dim.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 2/27/2006 21:00:00 436224 bytes
d3dim700.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:51 824320 bytes
d3dramp.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 2/27/2006 21:00:00 590336 bytes
d3drm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 2/27/2006 21:00:00 350208 bytes
d3dxof.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 2/27/2006 21:00:00 47616 bytes
d3dpmesh.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 2/27/2006 21:00:00 34816 bytes
dplay.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 2/27/2006 21:00:00 33040 bytes
dplayx.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 229888 bytes
dpmodemx.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 23552 bytes
dpwsock.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 2/27/2006 21:00:00 42768 bytes
dpwsockx.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 57344 bytes
dplaysvr.exe: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:17 29696 bytes
dpnsvr.exe: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:17 17920 bytes
dpnet.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 375296 bytes
dpnlobby.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:09:20 3072 bytes
dpnaddr.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:09:19 3072 bytes
dpvoice.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 212480 bytes
dpvsetup.exe: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:18 83456 bytes
dpvvox.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 116736 bytes
dpvacm.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 21504 bytes
dpnhpast.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 35328 bytes
dpnhupnp.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 60928 bytes
dpserial.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 2/27/2006 21:00:00 53520 bytes
dinput.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 158720 bytes
dinput8.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 181760 bytes
dimap.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 2/27/2006 21:00:00 44032 bytes
diactfrm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 2/27/2006 21:00:00 394240 bytes
joy.cpl: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:41 68608 bytes
gcdef.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 2/27/2006 21:00:00 76800 bytes
pid.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:02 35328 bytes
dsound.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 367616 bytes
dsound3d.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 1293824 bytes
dswave.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 19456 bytes
dsdmo.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 181248 bytes
dsdmoprp.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 71680 bytes
dmusic.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 104448 bytes
dmband.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 28672 bytes
dmcompos.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 61440 bytes
dmime.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 181248 bytes
dmloader.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 35840 bytes
dmstyle.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 105984 bytes
dmsynth.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 103424 bytes
dmscript.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 82432 bytes
system.dll: 1.01.4322.2407 English Final Retail 6/18/2008 01:28:13 1232896 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.dll: 9.05.0132.0000 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:55 473600 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 5.04.0000.3900 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:49 2676224 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.04.0091.0000 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:51 2846720 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.05.0132.0000 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:51 563712 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.06.0168.0000 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:52 567296 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.07.0239.0000 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:52 576000 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.08.0299.0000 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:53 577024 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.09.0376.0000 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:53 577536 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.10.0455.0000 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:53 577536 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.11.0519.0000 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:55 578560 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:55 145920 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectInput.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:55 159232 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectPlay.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:55 364544 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectSound.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:55 178176 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.AudioVideoPlayback.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:54 53248 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Diagnostics.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:54 12800 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 2/22/2010 15:57:53 223232 bytes
dx7vb.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 619008 bytes
dx8vb.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 1227264 bytes
dxdiagn.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 2113536 bytes
mfc40.dll: 4.01.0000.6140 English Final Retail 2/27/2006 21:00:00 924432 bytes
mfc42.dll: 6.02.4131.0000 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:56 1028096 bytes
wsock32.dll: 5.01.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:10 22528 bytes
amstream.dll: 6.05.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:49 70656 bytes
devenum.dll: 6.05.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:51 59904 bytes
dxmasf.dll: 6.04.0009.1133 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 498742 bytes
mciqtz32.dll: 6.05.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:56 35328 bytes
mpg2splt.ax: 6.05.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:42 148992 bytes
msdmo.dll: 6.05.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:59 14336 bytes
encapi.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:53 20480 bytes
qasf.dll: 11.00.5721.5145 English Final Retail 10/18/2006 21:47:18 211456 bytes
qcap.dll: 6.05.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:03 192512 bytes
qdv.dll: 6.05.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:03 279040 bytes
qdvd.dll: 6.05.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:03 386048 bytes
qedit.dll: 6.05.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:03 562176 bytes
qedwipes.dll: 6.05.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 12:21:32 733696 bytes
quartz.dll: 6.05.2600.5731 English Final Retail 12/20/2008 17:14:38 1288192 bytes
strmdll.dll: 4.01.0000.3937 English Final Retail 10/3/2008 05:02:42 247326 bytes
iac25_32.ax: 2.00.0005.0053 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:42 199680 bytes
ir41_32.ax: 4.51.0016.0003 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:42 848384 bytes
ir41_qc.dll: 4.30.0062.0002 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:55 120320 bytes
ir41_qcx.dll: 4.30.0064.0001 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:55 338432 bytes
ir50_32.dll: 5.2562.0015.0055 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:55 755200 bytes
ir50_qc.dll: 5.00.0063.0048 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:55 200192 bytes
ir50_qcx.dll: 5.00.0064.0048 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:55 183808 bytes
ivfsrc.ax: 5.10.0002.0051 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:42 154624 bytes
mswebdvd.dll: 6.05.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:01 203776 bytes
ks.sys: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 15:16:36 141056 bytes
ksproxy.ax: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 20:12:42 129536 bytes
ksuser.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 20:11:56 4096 bytes
stream.sys: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 14:45:16 49408 bytes
mspclock.sys: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 13:39:50 5376 bytes
mspqm.sys: 5.01.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 13:39:51 4992 bytes
mskssrv.sys: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 13:39:52 7552 bytes
swenum.sys: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 13:39:53 4352 bytes
mpeg2data.ax: 6.05.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:42 118272 bytes
msvidctl.dll: 6.05.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:01 1428992 bytes
vbisurf.ax: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:42 30208 bytes
msyuv.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:01 16896 bytes
wstdecod.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:10 50688 bytes

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DirectShow Filters
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DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,,
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMA Voice Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMT MuxDeMux Filter,0x00200000,0,0,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
InterVideo Video Decoder,0x00700000,2,4,IVIVIDEO.ax,5.00.0011.1145
Full Screen Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
InterVideo Audio Processor,0x00200000,1,1,IviAudioProcess.ax,
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,11.00.5721.5145
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
WMT AudioAnalyzer,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
Windows Media Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,msadds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
MPC - RealVideo Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,RealMediaSplitter.ax,1.03.1572.0000
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.5512
Intervideo CDSF Filter,0x00200000,0,1,ivicdsf.ax,9.00.0000.0000
WMT Format Conversion,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.2600.5512
WMT Black Frame Generator,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
Indeo® video 5.10 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
DivX for Blizzard Decoder Filter,0x00800000,1,1,blizzard.ax,5.00.0002.0000
WMT Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,msscds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
MPEG Layer-3 Decoder,0x00810000,1,1,l3codecx.ax,1.05.0000.0050
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.5512
ACELP.net Sipro Lab Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,acelpdec.ax,1.04.0000.0000
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
File Source (Netshow URL),0x00400000,0,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
WMT Import Filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Bitmap Generate,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmvds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmv8ds32.ax,8.00.0000.4000
WMT VIH2 Fix,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Record Queue,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Windows Media Multiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASX file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASX v.2 file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
NSC file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
Windows Media source filter,0x00600000,0,2,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
Frame Eater,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
WST Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,wstdecod.dll,5.03.2600.5512
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
MPC - RealMedia Source,0x00600000,0,0,RealMediaSplitter.ax,1.03.1572.0000
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
InterVideo Audio Decoder,0x00700000,1,1,iviaudio.ax,5.00.0011.1145
WMT Sample Information Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Sony Wave Hammer Surround,0x00200000,1,1,mchammer.dll,1.00.0000.1371
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,5.03.2600.5512
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,mpg4ds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
WMT Log Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Virtual Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MPC - RealAudio Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,RealMediaSplitter.ax,1.03.1572.0000
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,2,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Overlay Mixer2,0x00400000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.5512
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
.RAM file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
InterVideo Navigator,0x00190000,0,3,Ivinav.ax,5.00.0011.1145
WMT DirectX Transform Wrapper,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
G.711 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,g711codc.ax,5.01.2600.0000
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.5512
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Indeo® audio software,0x00500000,1,1,iac25_32.ax,2.00.0005.0053
Windows Media Update Filter,0x00400000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF DIB Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF ACM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF ICM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF URL Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF JPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF DJPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF embedded stuff Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
9x8Resize,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WIA Stream Snapshot Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wiasf.ax,1.00.0000.0000
Allocator Fix,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.05.2600.5512
WMT Virtual Source,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,mpeg2data.ax,
WMT Interlacer,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.5512
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
Uncompressed Domain Shot Detection Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
Arcsoft Snapshot Filter 1.0,0x00200000,1,1,ArcSnap.ax,1.00.0000.0020
QuickTime Movie Parser,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
XML Playlist,0x00400000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
MPC - RealMedia Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,RealMediaSplitter.ax,1.03.1572.0000
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
WMT DV Extract,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Switch Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Volume,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Stretch Video,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
QT Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5731
Sony ExpressFX Chorus,0x00200000,1,1,sfxpfx2.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony ExpressFX Delay,0x00200000,1,1,sfxpfx2.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony ExpressFX Distortion,0x00200000,1,1,sfxpfx1.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony ExpressFX Equalization,0x00200000,1,1,sfxpfx2.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony ExpressFX Flange/Wah-Wah,0x00200000,1,1,sfxpfx1.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony ExpressFX Amplitude Modulation,0x00200000,1,1,sfxpfx2.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony ExpressFX Reverb,0x00200000,1,1,sfxpfx1.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony ExpressFX Stutter,0x00200000,1,1,sfxpfx1.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony ExpressFX Dynamics,0x00200000,1,1,sfxpfx3.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony ExpressFX Graphic EQ,0x00200000,1,1,sfxpfx3.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony ExpressFX Noise Gate,0x00200000,1,1,sfxpfx3.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony ExpressFX Time Stretch,0x00200000,1,1,sfxpfx3.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony ExpressFX Audio Restoration,0x00200000,1,1,xpvinyl.dll,1.00.0000.1617
Sony Multi-Band Dynamics,0x00200000,1,1,sfppack2.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony Track Compressor,0x00200000,1,1,sftrkfx1.dll,1.00.0000.1372
Sony Dither,0x00200000,1,1,sftrkfx1.dll,1.00.0000.1372
Sony Chorus,0x00200000,1,1,sfppack1.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Indeo® video 4.4 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.0016.0003
Sony Distortion,0x00200000,1,1,sfppack3.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony Gapper/Snipper,0x00200000,1,1,sfppack3.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony Simple Delay,0x00200000,1,1,sfppack1.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony Reverb,0x00200000,1,1,sfppack1.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony Multi-Tap Delay,0x00200000,1,1,sfppack1.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony Track Noise Gate,0x00200000,1,1,sftrkfx1.dll,1.00.0000.1372
Sony Graphic EQ,0x00200000,1,1,sfppack2.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony Track EQ,0x00200000,1,1,sftrkfx1.dll,1.00.0000.1372
Sony Smooth/Enhance,0x00200000,1,1,sfppack3.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Indeo® video 4.4 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.0016.0003
Sony Resonant Filter,0x00200000,1,1,sfresfilter.dll,1.00.0000.1371
Sony Parametric EQ,0x00200000,1,1,sfppack2.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony Time Stretch,0x00200000,1,1,sfppack1.dll,1.00.0000.1367
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Sony Pan,0x00200000,1,1,sffrgpnv.dll,1.00.0000.1371
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Sony Volume,0x00200000,1,1,sffrgpnv.dll,1.00.0000.1371
Sony Flange/Wah-wah,0x00200000,1,1,sfppack3.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony Graphic Dynamics,0x00200000,1,1,sfppack2.dll,1.00.0000.1367
Sony Amplitude Modulation,0x00200000,1,1,sfppack3.dll,1.00.0000.1367

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Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Fraps Video Decompressor,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Intel 4:2:0 Video V2.50,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
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I haven't played much of any game lately with school and whatnot, but it's pretty obvious my computer isn't very good (read:awful). I'm just looking to manage SC2 around low-medium settings and I'm sure that would put me in pretty good shape in preparation for the new WoW expansion. I've always played WoW on the higher spectrum of both PvE and PvP, so I'm looking to handle raids with decent FPS and an option to Fraps in at least half-screen.

With my limited experience and knowledge of how everything works, I've been looking at these:

-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131647&cm_re=asus_m4a87td_evo_am3_amd_870_sata_6gb/s_usb_3.0_at-_-13-131-647-_-Product
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103872&cm_re=Athlon_II_X3_445-_-19-103-872-_-Product
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500149&Tpk=9600%20GSO

Is there anything else besides a power supply I should be considering? Or do those suggestions just make me look like an idiot?

Any help, recommendations, and explanations are appreciated.

R04R

United States1631 Posts

October 28 2010 05:14 GMT

#1944

Your processor is pretty decent, it's your graphics card that's killing you.

Is it one of these models? The processors don't match up though.

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/sm/WF25a/12132708-12132884-12132884-12132884-12736054-12736162.html

I'd say keep the CPU, change motherboard, case, graphics card, power supply.
Add CPU Cooler for overclocking and maybe new hard drive?
You're using DDR2 RAM right now, right? and not DDR3?

You're not going to fit everything in that case, so you'll probably need a new case.
Also, with newer parts you'll probably need a new PSU that will supply power to the right rails.
You'll need to change the motherboard because I don't think that has a x16 lane.

You won't get very far with $300, or at least end up at a dead end path.

Graphics Card: ASUS GTS 250 512mb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121381

Motherboard: Open Box: GIGABYTE GA-P43-ES3G LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128447R

Case: Antec 300
PSU: Antec Earthwatts 380-D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.514532

Subtotal is $243.92

A cooler for a pretty good overclock will be the Hyper 212 for $30. And a 500gb HD is about $50 and a 1TB is about $70.

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

October 28 2010 05:40 GMT

#1945

I'm not sure if it's worth upgrading like that on a $300 budget, reusing the CPU.

Since the graphics is most of the problem, you might as well just upgrade the GPU and forget about the rest. A low-profile card like this HD 5670 should probably fit in the case and will probably run on the stock power supply. edit: yeah nevermind, no PCI-E x16 slot...

Mindcrime

United States6899 Posts

October 28 2010 05:53 GMT

#1946

On October 28 2010 14:40 Myrmidon wrote:
I'm not sure if it's worth upgrading like that on a $300 budget, reusing the CPU.

Since the graphics is most of the problem, you might as well just upgrade the GPU and forget about the rest. A low-profile card like this HD 5670 should probably fit in the case and will probably run on the stock power supply.

That wouldn't be a horrible option if his motherboard had a pcie x16 slot, but I doubt that it does. If it is any of the models that R04R suspects, then it definitely does not.

PattyJ

United States153 Posts

October 28 2010 07:39 GMT

#1947

+ Show Spoiler +

On October 28 2010 14:14 R04R wrote:
Your processor is pretty decent, it's your graphics card that's killing you.

Is it one of these models? The processors don't match up though.

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/sm/WF25a/12132708-12132884-12132884-12132884-12736054-12736162.html

I'd say keep the CPU, change motherboard, case, graphics card, power supply.
Add CPU Cooler for overclocking and maybe new hard drive?
You're using DDR2 RAM right now, right? and not DDR3?

You're not going to fit everything in that case, so you'll probably need a new case.
Also, with newer parts you'll probably need a new PSU that will supply power to the right rails.
You'll need to change the motherboard because I don't think that has a x16 lane.

You won't get very far with $300, or at least end up at a dead end path.

Graphics Card: ASUS GTS 250 512mb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121381

Motherboard: Open Box: GIGABYTE GA-P43-ES3G LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128447R

Case: Antec 300
PSU: Antec Earthwatts 380-D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.514532

Subtotal is $243.92

A cooler for a pretty good overclock will be the Hyper 212 for $30. And a 500gb HD is about $50 and a 1TB is about $70.

It is one of those dc5700 models. Unless I'm reading this wrong it's just DDR (http://i53.tinypic.com/14ik3k9.jpg), would DDR2 make a difference without upgrading to a 64-bit OS?

If I don't overclock will I still need an additional cooling source or would the default fans be enough? Would performance be comfortably smooth without overclocking? If anything I don't want to risk messing up and having something fry out.

Iyerbeth

England2410 Posts

October 29 2010 15:46 GMT

#1948

Hi all,

I’ve been reading here for a while but this is my first actual post, and I was hoping someone could help me design a pc, and the sticky thread and the thread itself said this was the place to ask so yeah, here I am. Also that being said, it might be an odd place to do so but to anyone who reads this, I wanted to say thanks for the site and the effort put in to it.

With that out of the way, here’s what I’m looking for.

What is your budget?

I'm looking to upgrade in two parts if possible, and I realise it's a little restrictive doing so but my current pc is driving me insane.

I'd be looking about about £300 for a motherboard, cpu and 4gig of ram, although I'd be able to push that closer to £400 if it makes a significant impact. I'd need this part to contain reasonable integrated graphics able to run WoW and SC2 without too much trouble, even if not on high graphics.

In the begining of the new year I'd then like to spend a further £200-£300 adding a seperate graphics card and more RAM.

What is your resolution?

At the moment I play on whatever my pc will run any set item at, but if I had to pick I’d be happy at 1280x1024.

What are you using it for?

In short I want to be able to use my pc for:

Running WoW on ultra graphics.
Running SC2 on high graphics (Or ultra in single player if possible in budget).
Listening to music and visit internet sites whilst running games.
Video editing/map editing.

The long version:

The main reasons I want to upgrade are for Starcraft 2 and World of Warcraft: Cataclysm. In general I’d like to be able to run either of those games whilst able to quickly alt tab between a media player and an internet browser without particularly suffering for doing so. I also would like to really get in to using the SC2 map editor which currently just annihilates my pc, as well as video editing from time to time.

What is your upgrade cycle?

Last time I upgraded was around 2003 with 2nd hand parts, so really just when it gets to the point like now where I’m hitting a wall with software requirements. I guess I’d be looking for 5+ years before upgrading again, with the exception of possibly adding more RAM in a few months time.

When do you plan on building it?

I'm planning on setting up the basic motherboard, CPU and some RAM as soon as possible. I'll then be adding a seperate graphics card and further RAM in the new year.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Whilst I understand what overclocking is I don’t know how to safely do it without damaging my system and thus have no intention of doing so. If it would be deemed important though to make a system work out in budget I’d be happy to put more time in to learning how to do so.

Do you need an Operating System?

No, I’m getting a copy of Windows 7 separate to this build.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No, I don’t plan to do so.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I live in Europe (England) and so far Ebuyer.com has proven to be the cheapest option on most parts I’ve looked up so I will likely end up using them.

(That's it for relevant info)

I also wanted to show my current specs, just because having looked up the minimum specs I’m amazed it can run Sc2 and I thought I'd share just how low you can go and still play. Managed to get through single player on normal and 1/3 of the way through brutal before I gave up and decided I need a new system!

Motherboard: Uncertain (year 2000 ish motherboard).
CPU: 1.6 ghz single core.
Ram: 1.5gig DDR1.
Graphics: nVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra

Yeah sometimes I have to press escape to close video clips on single player because the fading out takes forever, yes everything is on low and every time I click a new unit or a new one hatches or I build a new building or more than 40 units are on the screen, or I’m looking blankly in to a fog of war area in frustration, or trying to load a game or a new sound file begins playing - it lags, but….yeah ok I need a new pc.

Thanks in advance for any help at all.

Edit: Typo correction.

JackRipper

79 Posts

October 29 2010 16:23 GMT

#1949

This build is to play sc2 at ultra. Trying to spend about 500-600 CAD before taxes and i'm mostly going to be using www.ncix.ca and price match with other Canadian sites. Don't need an OS and a monitor. I might overclock without changing the voltage and hopefully unlock a core. The only other upgrade that I will make with this build later on is the addition of an SSD.

CPU: Athlon II X3 445 $80
GPU: Gigabyte Radeon 5770 $145 w/ 10MIR
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-870A SATA 3 USB 3.0 $105
RAM: Corsair 4GB DDR3 1333 CL9 $68
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM 500GB $ 37
PSU: OCZ ModXStream PO 500W $70 w/ 20 MIR
Case: Antec 300 $54
Optical Drive: Samsung 22X DVD Writer SATA $17

Total: 576 w/ 30 MIR

How many watts do i need for the PSU if i'm able to unlock a core and add in a SSD later on? Can I use something cheaper like Corsair 430CX ($50 w/ 20 MIR) or Coolermaster Elite Power 400W ($35)?

entername

Canada2 Posts

October 29 2010 16:33 GMT

#1950

I was trying to sort through the 98 pages for mention of the 460 gtx compared to the new 6xxx series released this month... yet I'll admit after 20 or so pages my eyes began bleeding so I was going to come straight out and ask.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131375 == Newegg's 6850 (194 Cad)

vs

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261075 == Newegg 460 Gtx (Fermi)

Current specs:

Cpu: Q6600 2.4 (soon to be OC'd to 3.0 on Air)
Gpu: TBD here
Mobo: Asus P5Q Pro
Ram: 4Gb Ocz sli / 4 Gb corsair 1066
Psu: OCZ 850W

I have been reading/ looking up benchmarks up a lot on the two cards (Tomshardware etc) and they seem to more or less come out even (within 3%). I was wondering if the community had any views to help me break the tie. I'm leaning towards the 6850 since my mobo is currently Crossfire Compatible and I'm sure the new 6 series will crossfire well.

PS I have considered the fact the new 6850 will probably retain better Driver support longer than the 460 (with Nvidia's new line coming soon) but I don't know how large an impact that will really have in term of Real-world playability.

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

October 29 2010 16:41 GMT

#1951

@Iyerbeth:
Welcome to (posting on) TL.net! This is the right place to post that btw.

If your system is that old, you'll need a new power supply too. You'd need a new power supply to be able to handle the extra power needed by a good graphics card anyway, so that's not a huge deal.

No integrated graphics on the market can handle SC2 well on more than lowest graphics settings, if that. What you could do is get a £40-50 graphics card in the meantime that will run on medium well at low resolutions like that. But if you're used to really low fps and playing on lowest settings, integrated Radeon HD4250 or whatever should be okay I guess.

For £300 you can get a Phenom II X4 955, AM3 mobo, 2x2 GB DDR3 RAM, and a power supply. You would want a power supply that would be able to handle a high-power graphics card later on. If you want USB3 support for the mobo and higher reliability, and a better PSU, that would bring up the cost a little bit, but it'd still be under £400.

@JackRipper:
Screen resolution...? HD 5770 is mostly good on ultra, but not if you're expecting rock-solid fps at 1920x1200 or higher. For a core unlock and light overclock on an Athlon II X3, you're still not going to be reaching 150W, and the HD 5770 doesn't take much more than 100W either. SSD power consumption is in the single digit Watts. So 500W would be overkill. That said, that OCZ PSU is not so great. You could save money and get a Corsair 430CX, which is a decent budget unit that will still have enough power.

JackRipper

79 Posts

October 29 2010 18:14 GMT

#1952

I'm going to be playing sc2 at 1920X1200 but can go down lower if I need to. Should I change the mobo to one that doesn't include a core unlocker and SATA 3? (since they probably only had unlockable cores at the time the CPU was released to meet their quotas and SATA3 is not needed for most SSDs) Is there a better PSU for this build than the Corsair 430CX (maybe Seasonic SS-400ET 400W 80 PLUS for ~44 in a combo)?

CPU: Athlon II X3 445 $80
GPU: Gigabyte Radeon 5770 $145 w/ $10 MIR
Mobo: ASUS M4A77TD ATX AM3 $80 w/ $15 MIR
RAM: Corsair 4GB DDR3 1333 CL9 $68
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM 500GB $ 37
PSU: Corsair 430CX $50 w/ 20 MIR
Case: Antec 300 $54
Optical Drive: Samsung 22X DVD Writer SATA $17

Total: 531 w/ $45 MIR

Edit: Would adding $76 more for a phenom ii x4 955 ($156) and $45 more for a Radeon 6850 $190 be worth it? Would I need to get a better power supply then (maybe a Seasonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze ($63 in a combo)?

semantics

10040 Posts

October 29 2010 18:20 GMT

#1953

On October 28 2010 07:18 mahnini wrote:
thermal paste doesn't really matter all that much, at most you are shaving off 4-5C at load (for which you end up paying around $10+ for). if you aren't planning on overclocking i would just go with the cheapest you can find.

If you're spending 10 bucks on it you better be getting a large amount, last time i spend 10 bucks on my thermal paste i did my northbridge, cpu, gpu on all my computers, including copper modding my laptop to do it to my laptop too. So i say well worth it. Usually if you're buying it online unless it's free shipping i wouldn't but it solo because then the shipping is the cost of the TIM.

Iyerbeth

England2410 Posts

October 29 2010 21:18 GMT

#1954

On October 30 2010 01:41 Myrmidon wrote:
@Iyerbeth:
Welcome to (posting on) TL.net! This is the right place to post that btw.

If your system is that old, you'll need a new power supply too. You'd need a new power supply to be able to handle the extra power needed by a good graphics card anyway, so that's not a huge deal.

No integrated graphics on the market can handle SC2 well on more than lowest graphics settings, if that. What you could do is get a £40-50 graphics card in the meantime that will run on medium well at low resolutions like that. But if you're used to really low fps and playing on lowest settings, integrated Radeon HD4250 or whatever should be okay I guess.

For £300 you can get a Phenom II X4 955, AM3 mobo, 2x2 GB DDR3 RAM, and a power supply. You would want a power supply that would be able to handle a high-power graphics card later on. If you want USB3 support for the mobo and higher reliability, and a better PSU, that would bring up the cost a little bit, but it'd still be under £400.

Hi, thank you for your welcome and for taking the time to help. I've looked up your suggestions, and it looks like a very good place for me to start, the CPU especially seems very well priced for what it is.

Also I hadn't considered just buying a cheap graphics card to tide me over, but it seems like adding one in doesn't really push me further than I was wanting to go and could potentially buy me some more time to really get the best graphics card in the new year. Even with looking for a PSU that'll handle the requirements nicely once everything is together it's come out really nicely priced, so I think I'll end up following that advice, so really, thank you for your reply.

GeneralStan

United States4789 Posts

October 29 2010 21:52 GMT

#1955

On October 30 2010 01:33 entername wrote:
I was trying to sort through the 98 pages for mention of the 460 gtx compared to the new 6xxx series released this month... yet I'll admit after 20 or so pages my eyes began bleeding so I was going to come straight out and ask.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131375 == Newegg's 6850 (194 Cad)

vs

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261075 == Newegg 460 Gtx (Fermi)

Current specs:

Cpu: Q6600 2.4 (soon to be OC'd to 3.0 on Air)
Gpu: TBD here
Mobo: Asus P5Q Pro
Ram: 4Gb Ocz sli / 4 Gb corsair 1066
Psu: OCZ 850W

I have been reading/ looking up benchmarks up a lot on the two cards (Tomshardware etc) and they seem to more or less come out even (within 3%). I was wondering if the community had any views to help me break the tie. I'm leaning towards the 6850 since my mobo is currently Crossfire Compatible and I'm sure the new 6 series will crossfire well.

PS I have considered the fact the new 6850 will probably retain better Driver support longer than the 460 (with Nvidia's new line coming soon) but I don't know how large an impact that will really have in term of Real-world playability.

For Starcraft II, I think that the Nvidia cards still retain a performance advantage, other benchmarks aside.

With a Crossfire board, I think you may be better off with a 6850, since you can grab a second and gain a substantial performance upgrade roughly a year or so down the line for $100.

The power usage of the 6850 is a little better, but nothing to write home about.

Melancholia

United States717 Posts

October 29 2010 22:19 GMT

#1956

Alright, sorry to ask again about a computer build, but my favorite LPers' computer is dying and I was hoping to get some advice for a build in Canada. His problem right now is inconsistent booting, random bluescreens, etc.

What is your budget?
I'm guessing lowish, say about $500 CAD

What is your resolution?
Something that could handle 1920x1200 would be ideal, though I have no idea what sort of monitor he has

What are you using it for?
Video recording/editing, illustrations/drawing. Gaming isn't a concern, ZSNES isn't the most taxing of programs. He mainly plays Mario romhacks, and occasionally indie games.

What is your upgrade cycle?
Long (probably 4-5 years)

When do you plan on building it?
Within a month I reckon

Do you plan on overclocking?
No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.

Where are you buying your parts from?
Canada is all I know.

FabledIntegral

United States9232 Posts

October 30 2010 01:43 GMT

#1957

I know very little about this particular brand Palit (actually nothing! :o ), but I think if he's on an insanely limited budget the Palit GTS 1GB is selling for $99 at Fry's with a $40 rebate making it only cost $59 net. Sounds pretty cheap for a GTS 250, isn't it?

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

October 30 2010 02:36 GMT

#1958

On October 30 2010 07:19 Melancholia wrote:
Alright, sorry to ask again about a computer build, but my favorite LPers' computer is dying and I was hoping to get some advice for a build in Canada. His problem right now is inconsistent booting, random bluescreens, etc.

What is your budget?
I'm guessing lowish, say about $500 CAD+ Show Spoiler [the rest] +

What is your resolution?
Something that could handle 1920x1200 would be ideal, though I have no idea what sort of monitor he has

What are you using it for?
Video recording/editing, illustrations/drawing. Gaming isn't a concern, ZSNES isn't the most taxing of programs. He mainly plays Mario romhacks, and occasionally indie games.

What is your upgrade cycle?
Long (probably 4-5 years)

When do you plan on building it?
Within a month I reckon

Do you plan on overclocking?
No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.

Where are you buying your parts from?
Canada is all I know.

For those applications, I think integrated graphics is fine. Depending on how heavy the video recording/editing is, lots of RAM may or may not be needed.

I think you're looking for something like this:
Athlon II X4 -- difference between it and Phenom II X4 shouldn't be too great though it's an option; see here
AM3 mobo, maybe 880G chipset -- get one with 4 slots of RAM so RAM can be upped later if necessary
2x2 GB DDR3 RAM -- no rated speed higher than 1333 needed as no overclocking
HDD, optical drive, case, PSU, as needed

With 880G or any AMD chipset ending with G, you get integrated graphics on the mobo. I'm not that familiar with low-wattage PSUs, but I don't think there's anything out there that's really cheap yet reliable. Also, you might as well get something that could handle a GPU upgrade if that becomes necessary too. Corsair 430CX is okay and goes for a decent price usually.

Going NCIX.com and doing price matching seems to be the popular choice for Canadians.

Melancholia

United States717 Posts

October 30 2010 06:37 GMT

#1959

On October 30 2010 11:36 Myrmidon wrote:

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NCIX is pretty useful, thanks. I'm trying to convince him that he can do a lot better than this pre-built specifically. I was noticing the 220W power supply, though since it lacks details on the motherboard and other parts specific complaints may be difficult. At the very least he can get a better power supply, and I can get him a free and legal copy of Office and Windows 7, for less than that price. Particulars to dissuade him from that choice would be useful though.

Edit: Would all this fit together properly? The case is pretty cheap. I just pulled this list from NCIX when fiddling around with some options.
Hard Drives
Western Digital WD Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 3GB/S 7200RPM 32MB Cache 3.5IN Hard Drive OEM

Processor (CPU)
AMD Athlon II X4 640 Quad Core Processor AM3 3.0GHZ 2MB L2 Cache 95W 45NM Retail Box

Accesories & Cables
nGear Power Cord for Computer / Monitor 6FT NEMA5-15P to C13

DVD Writer
LG GH22NS50 Black 22X SATA DVD Writer OEM

Motherboard
ASUS M4A78LT-M LE mATX AM3 DDR3 AMD 760G 1PCI-E16 1PCI-E1 2PCI Radeon 3000 Sound GBLAN Motherboard

DDR3 Memory (RAM)
Corsair CMV4GX3M2A1333C9 4GB DDR3 2X2GB DDR3-1333 CL9 Dual Channel Memory Kit

Computer Case
AGAiT Vento TA-89 ATX Black Mid Tower Case 4X5.25 2X3.5 5X3.5INT

Power Supply
Seasonic SS-400ET 400W EPS12V 20/24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 80PLUS 6PIN PCI-E 120MM Fan OEM
(Or preferably this, though I can't seem to get it to show up as an option: Corsair Builder Series CMPSU-430CX 430W ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan)

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

October 30 2010 17:42 GMT

#1960

220W is plenty enough for a computer like that, but not if he may be adding a discrete GPU in the future and/or other expansion cards. Seasonic's low-end OEM units are okay, but you can get a nicer case and PSU with this for not much more money.

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