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Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 03:34:37
February 28 2012 03:34 GMT
#19061
Hmm ok, seems like a reasonable place to announce the finalised release date for sandybridge/ GTX 600 series?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 28 2012 03:36 GMT
#19062
You mean Ivybridge and GTX 700 (Kepler).

I think Nvidia has confirmed Kepler won't make an appearance at Cebit a nd Intel won't be announcing any release date for Ivybridge.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
February 28 2012 03:39 GMT
#19063
Yes. You're right. i always get mixed up between sandybridge/ivybridge and i didnt actually know they were just skipping 600.....
kunstderfugue
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico375 Posts
February 28 2012 03:45 GMT
#19064
Are they actually skipping GTX600? not this again...
Old lamps for new!
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
February 28 2012 03:51 GMT
#19065
Yeah. Dont want customers thinking AMD has a better product because they have a larger number in front of there cards.
twitch.tv/medrea
kunstderfugue
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico375 Posts
February 28 2012 03:57 GMT
#19066
Meh, I guess users which don't know too much about graphics would feel the difference. Still, it wouldn't hurt them to take 20 to 30 minutes and look at the benchmarks.
Old lamps for new!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 28 2012 03:59 GMT
#19067
600 series is going to be OEM only. Similar to 100 and 300 series. I don't really care what number they give it but they should stop using shitty suffixes.
kunstderfugue
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico375 Posts
February 28 2012 04:01 GMT
#19068
Is 600-series going to be a rebadge of the 500-series but OEM only then?
Old lamps for new!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 28 2012 04:02 GMT
#19069
Supposedly it's a 28nm Fermi refresh.
kunstderfugue
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico375 Posts
February 28 2012 04:04 GMT
#19070
Wouldn't it be easier to just have OEM-only Kepler GPUs as 600?
Old lamps for new!
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
February 28 2012 04:08 GMT
#19071
Not if nVidia wants to make money.

+ Show Spoiler +
nVidia wants to make money.
twitch.tv/medrea
kunstderfugue
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico375 Posts
February 28 2012 04:10 GMT
#19072
Oh, so does that mean Fermi on 28nm is cheaper to build than Kepler on 28nm?
Old lamps for new!
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
February 28 2012 04:16 GMT
#19073
OEM means you cant go to a website like Newegg and buy it straight up. You'd have to get it as part of a bulk deal for something like a LAN center and whatnot.
twitch.tv/medrea
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
February 28 2012 04:23 GMT
#19074
is furmark a reliable software to test graphic card overclocking stability?
<3 Kim Taeyeon
kunstderfugue
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico375 Posts
February 28 2012 04:28 GMT
#19075
Oh, thanks for the info. @IKill As far as I know, FurMark is good for testing
Old lamps for new!
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 04:30:13
February 28 2012 04:28 GMT
#19076
On February 28 2012 13:23 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
is furmark a reliable software to test graphic card overclocking stability?


Debatable. It overstresses cards beyond what most games do, letting you be absolutely certain about stability and temps, but it's also entirely plausible it will make your hardware look like it's closer to melting than it will be under real world cases.

Also, it's not ideal for certain types of testing. It's good enough for the vast majority, though, and if you're good in Furmark you should be good in anything else. For some people, something like looping a 3dmark test is preferable for stressing, or even doing that with a few threads of P95 for a total stress environment with more advanced DX features in use.

Oh, and sometimes there's issues with certain cards, furmark, and drivers all together allowing circumstances that are physically unhealthy for your card. Pretty rare now, though. Was a bigger issue for certain 4000 series Radeons, some of which exploded due to hardware that couldn't handle what it was supposed to.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
February 28 2012 04:32 GMT
#19077
thanks yall!
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
February 28 2012 06:01 GMT
#19078
These days FurMark is not particularly good for testing because by default the graphics cards throttle themselves down under such a load. Results are kind of unreliable. It depends on the throttling behavior.

I'd suggest looking some 3DMark over Furmark anyway, as that's more of a realistic worst-case load, and also one that changes over time and may catch some more oddities.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
February 28 2012 07:06 GMT
#19079
Run 3DMark, that Uniengine thingymagigy with the dragon, or just run games to test your GPU overclock. Run Intel Burn Test to test the CPU overclock.

Prime 95 takes years to find errors while Intel Burn Test should find errors fairly quickly. Furmark is a completely unrealistic test that does nothing but try and fry your GPU; nVidia and AMD know that so the cards automatically throttle themselves to stop that. The fact that AMD cards in the past died to it is enough proof that its a completely stupid test considering GPUs are over-engineered and can generally handle extremely stressful loads without struggling.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
February 28 2012 12:13 GMT
#19080
On February 28 2012 12:36 skyR wrote:
You mean Ivybridge and GTX 700 (Kepler).

I think Nvidia has confirmed Kepler won't make an appearance at Cebit a nd Intel won't be announcing any release date for Ivybridge.


I thought ivy bridge was 29th april?
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
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