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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 14:13:11
January 28 2012 14:10 GMT
#18201
Anyone know how the 7970 will perform against the GTX 590 and the 6990?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 14:14:27
January 28 2012 14:12 GMT
#18202
Slower. Google if you want numbers.

Since it's on the front page of Anand, I'll just link it for you: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5458/the-radeon-hd-7970-reprise-pcie-bandwidth-overclocking-and-msaa/2
Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
January 28 2012 14:36 GMT
#18203

Hello, I'm starting from scratch, and I don't have my heart set on any thing specific and I have no bias towards any companies, if it works well I'll use it.

Questions answered

Budget
+ Show Spoiler +
I'd like to keep the cost under $900 including the monitot Canadian, I'm willing to over it if necessary

Resolution
+ Show Spoiler +
I don't really want to go overkill with a 1080 screen, I was thinking of going with a 1300X760

Used for?
+ Show Spoiler +
Gaming mostly, and I'll hope to taking this to university next year. I really want ot spoiler my self with a gaming computer because I have never played a PC game with over 30 FPS, so keep that in mind for your recommendations.


Upgrade cycle
+ Show Spoiler +
I intend to keep this computer until i finish university. i don't plan on updating it until I really need to


When do you plan on building it
+ Show Spoiler +
As soon as the recommendations are in. I have the money saved up and I'm just waiting to order my parts.


Operating system
+ Show Spoiler +
Yes I do need one


Do you plan on overclocking?
+ Show Spoiler +
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Corssfire
+ Show Spoiler +
No, didn't think it was worth the effort


Where am I getting my parts?
+ Show Spoiler +
There is a electronic parts shop in my town, and I will probably use the cites listed on TL for parts i can't find.


Thank you in advance
Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.
ShesSoHeavy
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada15 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 15:51:40
January 28 2012 15:49 GMT
#18204
On January 28 2012 08:09 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 07:40 ShesSoHeavy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Budget: 500-600 CAD
Resolution: 1920x1080
Use: gaming (SC2, Diablo 3, possibly some FPS), HTPC, some coding work in Visual Studio
Upgrade: >3 years if possible
When: <1-2 months most likely
Overclocking: possibly, not sure if I need to
OS: already have
SLI/CF: no
Where: Toronto

Already have a hard drive, HSF, Windows 7. Would like this thing to be relatively small and unobtrusive. Made a list of components in pcpartpicker as a possibility. Looking for feedback - is it likely these parts will be cheaper in the near future? Thanks in advance for the help!

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/48k3



2500k for $220: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1141

Buying memory from Newegg is just stupid because you pay nearly $10 or more for shipping.

Same thing with the case... get a Bitfenix Merc Alpha for $40 instead of paying $50 for a case that's worth $20: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256

Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus isn't good. If you want to use an molex to PCIe adapter than get a CX400 for $45: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=33357

Get HIS 6870 for $160 instead: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=66643&promoid=1141

And no none of these components are likely to drop in pricing in the next two months. You may find a sale here and there that'll take like $10-$20 off the total but that's about it.


Thanks a lot SkyR. Looks like MemoryExpress has a lot of what I need in their weekend sale:

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/BDL_2500K_Z68AD3H_8GB (i5-2500K, Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3H-B3, 8GB RAM)

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX35329 (Gigabyte HD 6870)

I like your case suggestion. Is the 400W power supply enough for my build? And assuming I overclock the CPU? And could you explain what you mean by the molex to PCIe adapter required to use the Corsair power supply you recommended?
TraxEU
Profile Joined January 2012
1 Post
January 28 2012 16:56 GMT
#18205
Hello, this will be my first build, and from scratch to! Any input would be amazing, cheers.

What is your budget?

Anything up to or around £900 roughly.

What is your resolution?

1920 x 1080.

What are you using it for?

Pretty much exclusively gaming and as a main HUB for music/pictures/videos that I hope to organize on this machine. Games I'll be playing would be SC2, World of Warcraft, Team Fortress 2 (read:anything on steam :D) and any decent new releases in the future!

What is your upgrade cycle?

Would probably be 2 years ish seeing as this is my first time doing this

When do you plan on building it?

Whenever I firmly decide that all the parts I am looking at will work together and that I'm happy to part with so much money, so soon I hope.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Honestly can't say I've put much thought into this, if it saves money here and there then yes. But as I'd be doing this all from scratch I'm apprehensive. Sorry for the vagueness.

Do you need an Operating System?

No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

I do not think so.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I'm from England, so probably amazon.co.uk.




Thanks for taking the time to look at this post!
realtalk11
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1 Post
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 17:01:14
January 28 2012 16:58 GMT
#18206
Hi, I need a new pc cause mine is getting old. I need to plug 2 screens on it. a 27'' and a 22'. Will use it for 24 tabling poker with hem2 , starcraft 2, HON , skyrim etc.

Absolutely need a ss2 for hem2 and.. I just want a ssd lol.

Budget:

+ Show Spoiler +
1500$



Resolution:


+ Show Spoiler +
1920x1080


Used for:


+ Show Spoiler +
24 tabling poker with hold'em manager 2 + gaming + listening of streams etc


Upgrade cycle

+ Show Spoiler +
The more upgreadable, the better. Would like it to run without upgrading it for 1.5 years


When do you plan on building it:
+ Show Spoiler +
ASAP


Operating system:

+ Show Spoiler +
yes i need one


Overclocking:
+ Show Spoiler +
Never did it, but I could try


2nd gpu

+ Show Spoiler +
Dont think i can with a 1.5k build


Where am i getting parts

+ Show Spoiler +
Im canadian so preferably somewhere with cheap shipping rates and good prices maybe ncix or newegg. dont want any troubles.


Thx a fucking lot, I rushed this.

Incineratorz1 on skype for better communication.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 17:34:32
January 28 2012 17:27 GMT
#18207
On January 28 2012 23:36 Retgery wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Hello, I'm starting from scratch, and I don't have my heart set on any thing specific and I have no bias towards any companies, if it works well I'll use it.

Questions answered

Budget
+ Show Spoiler +
I'd like to keep the cost under $900 including the monitot Canadian, I'm willing to over it if necessary

Resolution
+ Show Spoiler +
I don't really want to go overkill with a 1080 screen, I was thinking of going with a 1300X760

Used for?
+ Show Spoiler +
Gaming mostly, and I'll hope to taking this to university next year. I really want ot spoiler my self with a gaming computer because I have never played a PC game with over 30 FPS, so keep that in mind for your recommendations.


Upgrade cycle
+ Show Spoiler +
I intend to keep this computer until i finish university. i don't plan on updating it until I really need to


When do you plan on building it
+ Show Spoiler +
As soon as the recommendations are in. I have the money saved up and I'm just waiting to order my parts.


Operating system
+ Show Spoiler +
Yes I do need one


Do you plan on overclocking?
+ Show Spoiler +
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Corssfire
+ Show Spoiler +
No, didn't think it was worth the effort


Where am I getting my parts?
+ Show Spoiler +
There is a electronic parts shop in my town, and I will probably use the cites listed on TL for parts i can't find.


Thank you in advance



The difference between 1920x1080 and 1366x768 is pretty huge... there are in-between options as well y'know... e.g. 1440x900 and 1600x900.

Have a look at this guideline. http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/49zb

You'll basically want:
- i3 2100 or 2120 if only ~$10 more at most (an i5 2400 fits in your budget too, up to you if you want to get more performance or save the $. The i3 is capable enough of any current game, though)
- some H61 or H67 LGA1155 mobo with whatever particular feature(s) you are looking for, if any
- 2x4GB 1.5V RAM because it's so cheap
- some HDD
- HD 6870 GPU at most (or nVidia equivalent GTX 560). Yes it would be overkill for 1366x768 but I encourage you to go for 1440x900 or 1600x900 19" screen at least. I have a 20" 1600x900 that I bought for my first build and I'm fine with it not being bigger and happy it's not smaller or lower resolution
- a decent case such as the one I put in there
- a good PSU: Antec and Corsair make the better low-priced units. Or an OCZ ZS550, a XFX Core 450, ...

Also the parts in the store might be way more expensive, or have limited selection. You'd probably do best to select everything from NCIX and do pricematching and just have 1 order with them, I believe that's what skyR does usually. Newegg.ca blows, you play like $11 shipping on each item lol.

EDIT: And with this post I have become a retarded Dragoon :D brb while it takes me 5 minutes to navigate through small doors to the kitchen as I get bugged out and dance around.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 17:47:33
January 28 2012 17:34 GMT
#18208
On January 28 2012 20:43 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 15:06 Medrea wrote:
On January 28 2012 12:53 skyR wrote:
What? If 7850 is a die shrink than 7870 is a die-shrink since both of them are based on Pitcairn... how can one Pitcairn be a die-shrink and the other not?

Right well, thats what I want to know! Is Pitcairn a die shrink?

Same with Cape Verde. Are we gonna get identical 5770's again?

Im hoping none of these are 40nm at least.


They are reusing 6-series cards in the 7 series so yeah, your fears are correct. As I understand it HD7350, HD7450, HD7470, HD7570, HD7670, will be all 40nm cards from the 6-series. Pretty dirty but yeah, it's mostly for the OEM market.


I dont care about those cards. Those are all Walmart cards anyway.

The x7xx's and up are either die shrinks or new architectures.
twitch.tv/medrea
derpalerp
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1 Post
January 28 2012 19:18 GMT
#18209
My last custom build was around 2004, so I am totally out of the loop as to what is current in todays market. Could anyone out there please help me with this build?

What is your budget?

$600-$800 (if virtually impossible with what is needed, then the minimum)

What is your resolution?

1920x1080

What are you using it for?

Gaming...but the only games would be SC2 (low / medium settings) and Diablo 3 (medium).

What is your upgrade cycle?

I would want to get enough with this build to last me until I totally rebuild a new computer. I will not be advancing to new games, just SC2/Diablo 3, so I don't really plan on upgrading components at all.

When do you plan on building it?

In roughly a month.

Do you plan on overclocking?

No

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes. Windows 7 preferred, but don't know if I need 32 or 64 bit

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No

Additional Parts

Everything. (Monitor (16.9 ratio), case, psu, graphics/sound/ethernet card, hard drive, dvd, etc, etc....) The only things that I would use from my current computer would be my keyboard and mouse.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg is where I feel most comfortable buying from, but I would branch out for better deals.


Thank you!!
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 20:31:20
January 28 2012 20:28 GMT
#18210
Derp, ask for a specific part list when you're ready to buy (specials change). SC2 & Diablo III on medium should be doable on that budget, even accounting for a monitor. You'll look at roughly

i3-2xxx processor (~$125)
H61 mobo (~$50)
8 GB of RAM (~30)
Quality 400w power supply (~$45)
Low-medium end graphics card (~$100)
DVD drive (~$20)
Cheap case (~$40)
Hard Drive (~$75)
On-board sound card should be fine.

Tower: a bit under $500, leaving you plenty of room for a monitor/peripherals/saving a few bucks off your budget
Other peripherals you'll probably want:
Cheapo speakers ($15) and/or or decent budget headphones ($40) with desk or clip-on mic (~$10)
USB wireless thingy (if you need wireless) (~$20)

Edit: Ah, I forgot, budget $100 for OS unless you're a student or academic (then its ~$65), which with a decent monitor will have you teetering at or a bit over $800. You'll want 64-bit since 32-bit has a limit on RAM.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 28 2012 21:16 GMT
#18211
On January 29 2012 01:58 realtalk11 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hi, I need a new pc cause mine is getting old. I need to plug 2 screens on it. a 27'' and a 22'. Will use it for 24 tabling poker with hem2 , starcraft 2, HON , skyrim etc.

Absolutely need a ss2 for hem2 and.. I just want a ssd lol.

Budget:

+ Show Spoiler +
1500$



Resolution:


+ Show Spoiler +
1920x1080


Used for:


+ Show Spoiler +
24 tabling poker with hold'em manager 2 + gaming + listening of streams etc


Upgrade cycle

+ Show Spoiler +
The more upgreadable, the better. Would like it to run without upgrading it for 1.5 years


When do you plan on building it:
+ Show Spoiler +
ASAP


Operating system:

+ Show Spoiler +
yes i need one


Overclocking:
+ Show Spoiler +
Never did it, but I could try


2nd gpu

+ Show Spoiler +
Dont think i can with a 1.5k build


Where am i getting parts

+ Show Spoiler +
Im canadian so preferably somewhere with cheap shipping rates and good prices maybe ncix or newegg. dont want any troubles.


Thx a fucking lot, I rushed this.

Incineratorz1 on skype for better communication.


Overclockable configuration and sort of SLI / CrossfireX capable (not recommended for 1080p gaming) for $1083 before mail in rebates, shipping, and other fees:

Core i5 2500k @ $220 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232639/Intel/BX80623I52500K/ )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962

HIS Radeon HD6870 @ $160 ($150 after mail in rebate)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=66643&promoid=1141

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40 ($35 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544

XFX Core Edition 550 @ $62 ($47 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15180AC2961 )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615

ASUS P8Z68-M Pro @ $122 (pricematch with http://www.hookbag.ca/product/H3C06MO4O/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64104

Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo @ $28 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC0554 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64385

Bitfenix Shinobi @ $60
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=62891&promoid=1130

Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB @ $90
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=48813&promoid=1141

Crucial M4 128gb @ $185
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60445&promoid=1130

DVD Burner @ $18
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65984&promoid=1141

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $98 (pricematch with http://www.hltechnology.com/one_prod.php?pid=209982 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271




On January 28 2012 23:36 Retgery wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hello, I'm starting from scratch, and I don't have my heart set on any thing specific and I have no bias towards any companies, if it works well I'll use it.

Questions answered

Budget
+ Show Spoiler +
I'd like to keep the cost under $900 including the monitot Canadian, I'm willing to over it if necessary

Resolution
+ Show Spoiler +
I don't really want to go overkill with a 1080 screen, I was thinking of going with a 1300X760

Used for?
+ Show Spoiler +
Gaming mostly, and I'll hope to taking this to university next year. I really want ot spoiler my self with a gaming computer because I have never played a PC game with over 30 FPS, so keep that in mind for your recommendations.


Upgrade cycle
+ Show Spoiler +
I intend to keep this computer until i finish university. i don't plan on updating it until I really need to


When do you plan on building it
+ Show Spoiler +
As soon as the recommendations are in. I have the money saved up and I'm just waiting to order my parts.


Operating system
+ Show Spoiler +
Yes I do need one


Do you plan on overclocking?
+ Show Spoiler +
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Corssfire
+ Show Spoiler +
No, didn't think it was worth the effort


Where am I getting my parts?
+ Show Spoiler +
There is a electronic parts shop in my town, and I will probably use the cites listed on TL for parts i can't find.


Thank you in advance


$629 with free shipping:

1366x768, do those monitors even exist anymore? But those will probably be like under $100. If you want to use the remainder of your budget, you can get a SSD: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60445&promoid=1130

Intel Core i3 2100 @ $120
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58339&promoid=1141

PNY GTX 550 Ti @ $120 ($100 after mail in rebate) (free shipping for entire order)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59584&promoid=1141

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40 ($35 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544

Corsair CX400 @ $45
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=33357

Intel H61 @ $68 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD3315 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59496&vpn=BOXDH61WWB3&manufacture=Intel

Bitfenix Merc Alpha @ $40
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $80 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC0275 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63468

DVD Burner @ $18
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65984&promoid=1141

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $98 (pricematch with http://www.hltechnology.com/one_prod.php?pid=209982 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 28 2012 22:26 GMT
#18212
On January 29 2012 00:49 ShesSoHeavy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On January 28 2012 08:09 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 07:40 ShesSoHeavy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Budget: 500-600 CAD
Resolution: 1920x1080
Use: gaming (SC2, Diablo 3, possibly some FPS), HTPC, some coding work in Visual Studio
Upgrade: >3 years if possible
When: <1-2 months most likely
Overclocking: possibly, not sure if I need to
OS: already have
SLI/CF: no
Where: Toronto

Already have a hard drive, HSF, Windows 7. Would like this thing to be relatively small and unobtrusive. Made a list of components in pcpartpicker as a possibility. Looking for feedback - is it likely these parts will be cheaper in the near future? Thanks in advance for the help!

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/48k3



2500k for $220: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1141

Buying memory from Newegg is just stupid because you pay nearly $10 or more for shipping.

Same thing with the case... get a Bitfenix Merc Alpha for $40 instead of paying $50 for a case that's worth $20: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256

Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus isn't good. If you want to use an molex to PCIe adapter than get a CX400 for $45: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=33357

Get HIS 6870 for $160 instead: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=66643&promoid=1141

And no none of these components are likely to drop in pricing in the next two months. You may find a sale here and there that'll take like $10-$20 off the total but that's about it.


Thanks a lot SkyR. Looks like MemoryExpress has a lot of what I need in their weekend sale:

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/BDL_2500K_Z68AD3H_8GB (i5-2500K, Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3H-B3, 8GB RAM)

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX35329 (Gigabyte HD 6870)

I like your case suggestion. Is the 400W power supply enough for my build? And assuming I overclock the CPU? And could you explain what you mean by the molex to PCIe adapter required to use the Corsair power supply you recommended?


The 6870 requires two 6pin PCIe connectors for it to work. Both your original choice of a Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus and the CX400 only has one 6pin PCIe connector so with either power supply, you would be required to use a molex to 6pin PCIe adapter for a 6870.

The CX400 provides the same amount of power as your original choice for the power supply.
ShesSoHeavy
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada15 Posts
January 28 2012 22:54 GMT
#18213
On January 29 2012 07:26 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 00:49 ShesSoHeavy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On January 28 2012 08:09 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 07:40 ShesSoHeavy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Budget: 500-600 CAD
Resolution: 1920x1080
Use: gaming (SC2, Diablo 3, possibly some FPS), HTPC, some coding work in Visual Studio
Upgrade: >3 years if possible
When: <1-2 months most likely
Overclocking: possibly, not sure if I need to
OS: already have
SLI/CF: no
Where: Toronto

Already have a hard drive, HSF, Windows 7. Would like this thing to be relatively small and unobtrusive. Made a list of components in pcpartpicker as a possibility. Looking for feedback - is it likely these parts will be cheaper in the near future? Thanks in advance for the help!

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/48k3



2500k for $220: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1141

Buying memory from Newegg is just stupid because you pay nearly $10 or more for shipping.

Same thing with the case... get a Bitfenix Merc Alpha for $40 instead of paying $50 for a case that's worth $20: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256

Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus isn't good. If you want to use an molex to PCIe adapter than get a CX400 for $45: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=33357

Get HIS 6870 for $160 instead: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=66643&promoid=1141

And no none of these components are likely to drop in pricing in the next two months. You may find a sale here and there that'll take like $10-$20 off the total but that's about it.


Thanks a lot SkyR. Looks like MemoryExpress has a lot of what I need in their weekend sale:

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/BDL_2500K_Z68AD3H_8GB (i5-2500K, Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3H-B3, 8GB RAM)

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX35329 (Gigabyte HD 6870)

I like your case suggestion. Is the 400W power supply enough for my build? And assuming I overclock the CPU? And could you explain what you mean by the molex to PCIe adapter required to use the Corsair power supply you recommended?


The 6870 requires two 6pin PCIe connectors for it to work. Both your original choice of a Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus and the CX400 only has one 6pin PCIe connector so with either power supply, you would be required to use a molex to 6pin PCIe adapter for a 6870.

The CX400 provides the same amount of power as your original choice for the power supply.


Oh yeah, not trying to defend my initial choice of the Coolermaster or anything. For my build, would the XFX Core Edition 550W for a couple dollars more (also from NCIX) make more sense? It seems to have 2x PCIe connectors and a bit more wattage. Thanks again for your help.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 28 2012 23:01 GMT
#18214
Yes the XFX unit would be preferred for such a configuration.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 28 2012 23:17 GMT
#18215
That's post-rebate pricing. The XFX is actually not that much different than the Corsair CX400 aside from rated wattage and thus slightly higher-spec parts and the extra cables.

You don't actually need that much wattage for a modern system with Sandy Bridge and an HD 6870, or for future midrange gaming systems like that, so the extra capacity is not really much of an advantage.

It's not as good, but if you don't want to use an adapter, also consider the OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W for $60 before $20 rebate, because it gets free shipping on the whole order. It's certainly still well above the Cooler Master originally selected.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=33040&promoid=1141
RumbleBadger
Profile Joined July 2011
322 Posts
January 28 2012 23:37 GMT
#18216
Hey, guys. Quick question...

So I'm building up my computer, and my graphics card covers up the sata 1 slot where my hard drive should plug in. There are enough other sata's that I could just shift the cable over to sata 2, but I don't know if that's bad or not. Could someone clarify?
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 23:45:21
January 28 2012 23:44 GMT
#18217
On January 29 2012 08:37 RumbleBadger wrote:
Hey, guys. Quick question...

So I'm building up my computer, and my graphics card covers up the sata 1 slot where my hard drive should plug in. There are enough other sata's that I could just shift the cable over to sata 2, but I don't know if that's bad or not. Could someone clarify?


It doesn't matter at all which port you plug it in. SATA 1 and 2 are almost always same type. But many motherboards have say... 4 SATA III 6gb/s and 2 slower Marvell SATA ports which you may not want to use (especially not with an SSD). They're often differently colored but you could easily check your manual to be sure.

But also, if you switch around SATA ports after installing OS, you may have to change around the boot order in BIOS.
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adwodon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom592 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 23:55:14
January 28 2012 23:54 GMT
#18218
On January 29 2012 01:56 TraxEU wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Hello, this will be my first build, and from scratch to! Any input would be amazing, cheers.

What is your budget?

Anything up to or around £900 roughly.

What is your resolution?

1920 x 1080.

What are you using it for?

Pretty much exclusively gaming and as a main HUB for music/pictures/videos that I hope to organize on this machine. Games I'll be playing would be SC2, World of Warcraft, Team Fortress 2 (read:anything on steam :D) and any decent new releases in the future!

What is your upgrade cycle?

Would probably be 2 years ish seeing as this is my first time doing this

When do you plan on building it?

Whenever I firmly decide that all the parts I am looking at will work together and that I'm happy to part with so much money, so soon I hope.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Honestly can't say I've put much thought into this, if it saves money here and there then yes. But as I'd be doing this all from scratch I'm apprehensive. Sorry for the vagueness.

Do you need an Operating System?

No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

I do not think so.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I'm from England, so probably amazon.co.uk.




Thanks for taking the time to look at this post!


Ok so first off I'm really tired so this may not be the super tip top best for your buck and you might want to check on some of the things (like PSU being enough / too much, im never sure about that one, but its not a major cost).

i5 2500 3.30GHz http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/processors/intelcorei3,i5andi71155socket/bx80623i52500.html

MSI H67MA-E45 Intel H67
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/motherboards/intel1155h67,q67chipsetmotherboards/h67ma-e45(b3).html

G.Skill Ripjaw 8GB (2x4GB)
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/memory-pc/ddr3-pc3-10666/1333mhz/f3-10666cl9d-8gbrl.html

MSI GeForce GTX 570 Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC 1280MB GDDR5
(this card is a beast, can be overclocked a tonne safely, if you don't need it and want to save some money get a 560Ti, but this was in your budget and I love this card <3, runs BF3 on ultra np after some tweaking :D )
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/nvidiageforcegraphicscards/nvidiagtx570fermiseries/n570gtxtwinfrozriiioc.html

OCZ StealthXStream2 600w (you could probably save a tenner and get a 500w one, check with someone else though, I'm no good at those things)
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/powersupplies/ocz600sxs2-uk.html

Samsung S222BB 22x DVD+/-RW
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/opticaldrives/satadvdwriters/sh-s222bbbebe.html

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/harddrives-internal/sata500gbto1tb/st31000524as.html

Antec Three Hundred
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/cases/cases/0761345-08300-3.html

total ~ £750

spend the rest on a nice monitor.

I think I've covered everything, you can only OC the graphics card, if you want to do processor in budget maybe just get a 560Ti and get a P67 mobo + the 2500k processor instead, probably better off with the 570 card though.
You could also consider the 560Ti and getting an SSD as well, up to you.

AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 29 2012 00:20 GMT
#18219
On January 28 2012 15:03 Sway.746 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 13:30 AAyeR wrote:
can you guys recommend me a good set of headphones for listening to music/ gaming?


Depends on what kind of music you listen to, if you're in a noisy environment or one where you shouldn't bother other people, etc.


i listen to hip-hop,metal, classic rock, disco. :p I am not in a noisy environment , i'm in a secluded room and i'm looking at these..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826106328

keep in mind i don't have speakers so i will be wearing them whenever i want to hear anything
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 29 2012 00:26 GMT
#18220
also i am using a pretty shitty power surge connector, should i be investing in a new one?
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