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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 08:08:16
January 27 2012 07:47 GMT
#18161
-_-
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 27 2012 09:09 GMT
#18162
Oh did you say something silly? I completely missed it.
twitch.tv/medrea
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
January 27 2012 09:57 GMT
#18163
On January 27 2012 15:51 SafeAsCheese wrote:
I had thought it made games faster, but I am personally not bothered by load times at all, so it seems like a waste now that I hear it only effects things like that.



Nah, SSDs only improve load times. WoW is one of the few games where it can actually have an ingame advantage (entering a high population area) and even there the effect is quite small, from my experience.

You do get addicted to 20 second cold boots though, once you have an SSD
Such flammable little insects!
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 09:58:57
January 27 2012 09:57 GMT
#18164
skyr, this look good?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL012412&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL012412-_-EMC-012412-Index-_-InternalHardDrives-_-22145299-L0F

500gb, 7200, 16mb cache

Seems about 10$ cheaper than the Seagate Barracuda
LiteCore
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada21 Posts
January 27 2012 12:13 GMT
#18165
What is your budget?
$700

What is your resolution?
1366 x 768

What are you using it for?
Mainly SC2, Diablo 3, and SW:tOR. I will also be using this comp for my college life starting this fall, going for Animations. So exetended use of Photoshop and ToonBoom, etc.

What is your upgrade cycle?
This will be the first PC I will be building. But pretty much around 3 years upgrade for buying a comp (Which sometimes isn't much of an upgrade, but just having a new item)

When do you plan on building it?
In a couple of days

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an OS?
Yes, Windows 7 preferably

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
newegg.ca

Please help me, this will be the first time for me to do this and I'm quite nervous about it
PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
January 27 2012 17:15 GMT
#18166
What is your budget?

$1200-$1500 USD

What is your resolution?

I would like a new monitor, so obviously high.

What are you using it for?

I intend to use high end graphics and editing for photoshop, videos, and of course I'll be gaming.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I plan on buying a new computer every few years.

When do you plan on building it?

Sometime soon with taxes.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Not really sure if I would, no need for the most part unless it is so essential.

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Put that down as a secondary option and show the price difference please, if you don't mind.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Northeast USA. So Newegg comes to mind, and anywhere else I can get a great deal.
We learn nothing from history except that we learn nothing from history.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 27 2012 18:57 GMT
#18167
On January 27 2012 21:13 LiteCore wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
$700

What is your resolution?
1366 x 768

What are you using it for?
Mainly SC2, Diablo 3, and SW:tOR. I will also be using this comp for my college life starting this fall, going for Animations. So exetended use of Photoshop and ToonBoom, etc.

What is your upgrade cycle?
This will be the first PC I will be building. But pretty much around 3 years upgrade for buying a comp (Which sometimes isn't much of an upgrade, but just having a new item)

When do you plan on building it?
In a couple of days

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an OS?
Yes, Windows 7 preferably

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
newegg.ca

Please help me, this will be the first time for me to do this and I'm quite nervous about it


$629 with free shipping:

Intel Core i3 2100 @ $120
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58339&promoid=1141

PNY GTX 550 Ti @ $120 ($100 after mail in rebate) (free shipping for entire order)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59584&promoid=1141

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40 ($35 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544

Corsair CX400 @ $45
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=33357

Intel H61 @ $68 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD3315 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59496&vpn=BOXDH61WWB3&manufacture=Intel

Bitfenix Merc Alpha @ $40
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $80 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC0275 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63468

DVD Burner @ $18
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65984&promoid=1141

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $98 (pricematch with http://www.hltechnology.com/one_prod.php?pid=209982 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 19:14:35
January 27 2012 19:10 GMT
#18168
On January 27 2012 18:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
skyr, this look good?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL012412&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL012412-_-EMC-012412-Index-_-InternalHardDrives-_-22145299-L0F

500gb, 7200, 16mb cache

Seems about 10$ cheaper than the Seagate Barracuda


Yes it would work.


On January 28 2012 02:15 PolSC2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?

$1200-$1500 USD

What is your resolution?

I would like a new monitor, so obviously high.

What are you using it for?

I intend to use high end graphics and editing for photoshop, videos, and of course I'll be gaming.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I plan on buying a new computer every few years.

When do you plan on building it?

Sometime soon with taxes.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Not really sure if I would, no need for the most part unless it is so essential.

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Put that down as a secondary option and show the price difference please, if you don't mind.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Northeast USA. So Newegg comes to mind, and anywhere else I can get a great deal.


$1022 for an overclockable SLI / CrossfireX capable configuration. This leaves you with ~$500 for a monitor - either a Dell Ultrasharp or 120Hz monitor is recommended.

If you're doing CrossfireX / SLI, you should overclock. Otherwise, it's just dumb. If you don't want to do either, you can get a non-K suffix processor, a H67 motherboard, switch to a ~500w power supply, and get rid of the aftermarket heatsink - this would save roughly $100. If you just want to overclock, you can downgrade the power supply to a ~500w unit and switch to an Asrock P67 Pro3 which is about $40 in savings.

Intel Core i5 2500k @ $200
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1141

Sapphire HD6870 @ $165
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

Asrock Z68 Extreme3 @ $122
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

Rosewill Capstone 650 @ $81 (w/ promo code PSU0112, ends 2/5)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $35 ($25 after mail in rebate)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1141

Coolermaster HAF912 @ $50
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1141

Hitachi 500GB @ $70 (w/ promo code EMCNJHF28, ends 1/30)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $95
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1141

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1141

Crucial m4 @ $165 (w/ promo code HARDOCPX125B, ends 1/31) << HOT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148525

DVD Burner @ $16
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&promoid=1141

You need an extra SATA cable so you can buy this or salvage it from the previous computer.
PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
January 27 2012 19:34 GMT
#18169
Thank you very much, skyR. I really appreciate it, especially providing the links and everything. Do you ever get bored of this?
We learn nothing from history except that we learn nothing from history.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 27 2012 21:36 GMT
#18170
Not sure how you get bored of shopping =p I like to keep in touch with pricing.
ShesSoHeavy
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada15 Posts
January 27 2012 22:40 GMT
#18171
Budget: 500-600 CAD
Resolution: 1920x1080
Use: gaming (SC2, Diablo 3, possibly some FPS), HTPC, some coding work in Visual Studio
Upgrade: >3 years if possible
When: <1-2 months most likely
Overclocking: possibly, not sure if I need to
OS: already have
SLI/CF: no
Where: Toronto

Already have a hard drive, HSF, Windows 7. Would like this thing to be relatively small and unobtrusive. Made a list of components in pcpartpicker as a possibility. Looking for feedback - is it likely these parts will be cheaper in the near future? Thanks in advance for the help!

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/48k3
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 27 2012 23:09 GMT
#18172
On January 28 2012 07:40 ShesSoHeavy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Budget: 500-600 CAD
Resolution: 1920x1080
Use: gaming (SC2, Diablo 3, possibly some FPS), HTPC, some coding work in Visual Studio
Upgrade: >3 years if possible
When: <1-2 months most likely
Overclocking: possibly, not sure if I need to
OS: already have
SLI/CF: no
Where: Toronto

Already have a hard drive, HSF, Windows 7. Would like this thing to be relatively small and unobtrusive. Made a list of components in pcpartpicker as a possibility. Looking for feedback - is it likely these parts will be cheaper in the near future? Thanks in advance for the help!

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/48k3



2500k for $220: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1141

Buying memory from Newegg is just stupid because you pay nearly $10 or more for shipping.

Same thing with the case... get a Bitfenix Merc Alpha for $40 instead of paying $50 for a case that's worth $20: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256

Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus isn't good. If you want to use an molex to PCIe adapter than get a CX400 for $45: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=33357

Get HIS 6870 for $160 instead: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=66643&promoid=1141

And no none of these components are likely to drop in pricing in the next two months. You may find a sale here and there that'll take like $10-$20 off the total but that's about it.
Sway.746
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States95 Posts
January 28 2012 01:10 GMT
#18173
On January 28 2012 04:10 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 18:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
skyr, this look good?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL012412&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL012412-_-EMC-012412-Index-_-InternalHardDrives-_-22145299-L0F

500gb, 7200, 16mb cache

Seems about 10$ cheaper than the Seagate Barracuda


Yes it would work.


Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 02:15 PolSC2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?

$1200-$1500 USD

What is your resolution?

I would like a new monitor, so obviously high.

What are you using it for?

I intend to use high end graphics and editing for photoshop, videos, and of course I'll be gaming.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I plan on buying a new computer every few years.

When do you plan on building it?

Sometime soon with taxes.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Not really sure if I would, no need for the most part unless it is so essential.

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Put that down as a secondary option and show the price difference please, if you don't mind.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Northeast USA. So Newegg comes to mind, and anywhere else I can get a great deal.


$1022 for an overclockable SLI / CrossfireX capable configuration. This leaves you with ~$500 for a monitor - either a Dell Ultrasharp or 120Hz monitor is recommended.

If you're doing CrossfireX / SLI, you should overclock. Otherwise, it's just dumb. If you don't want to do either, you can get a non-K suffix processor, a H67 motherboard, switch to a ~500w power supply, and get rid of the aftermarket heatsink - this would save roughly $100. If you just want to overclock, you can downgrade the power supply to a ~500w unit and switch to an Asrock P67 Pro3 which is about $40 in savings.

Intel Core i5 2500k @ $200
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1141

Sapphire HD6870 @ $165
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

Asrock Z68 Extreme3 @ $122
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

Rosewill Capstone 650 @ $81 (w/ promo code PSU0112, ends 2/5)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $35 ($25 after mail in rebate)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1141

Coolermaster HAF912 @ $50
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1141

Hitachi 500GB @ $70 (w/ promo code EMCNJHF28, ends 1/30)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $95
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1141

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1141

Crucial m4 @ $165 (w/ promo code HARDOCPX125B, ends 1/31) << HOT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148525

DVD Burner @ $16
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&promoid=1141

You need an extra SATA cable so you can buy this or salvage it from the previous computer.


Could this build stream SC2 at 720p?
SnowSC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States678 Posts
January 28 2012 01:14 GMT
#18174
Yes
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 01:26:36
January 28 2012 01:26 GMT
#18175
@Sway.746

If you're interested in streaming, make sure to review R1CH's Stream Quality Guide, particularly the CPU section.

The i5-2500k can stream 720p, but if budget is not a problem, an i7-2600k is somewhat better for streaming (not for most other uses). Unless streaming is one of your main uses for the computer though, the extra $100 will usually be nicer spent somewhere else, like monitor.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Sway.746
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States95 Posts
January 28 2012 01:39 GMT
#18176
On January 28 2012 10:26 MisterFred wrote:
@Sway.746

If you're interested in streaming, make sure to review R1CH's Stream Quality Guide, particularly the CPU section.

The i5-2500k can stream 720p, but if budget is not a problem, an i7-2600k is somewhat better for streaming (not for most other uses). Unless streaming is one of your main uses for the computer though, the extra $100 will usually be nicer spent somewhere else, like monitor.


Alright, cool. I'll probably just wait for Ivy Bridge and the new GPUs to come out in April, but it's good to know ~the cost of a PC that will stream 720p SC2.

Thanks!
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 28 2012 01:57 GMT
#18177
So, I still have not found a good USB wifi adapter, I noticed a lot of complaints about DONGLE USB, i'm wondering if it is better to get an antenna type USB. I want it specifically to play STARCRAFT 2, Please give me a good reccomendation, I am using windows XP.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 28 2012 02:04 GMT
#18178
The only one I am leaning towards is this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166046

rosewill, great reviews, great ratings, so far. but out of a small sample size.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 02:27:38
January 28 2012 02:19 GMT
#18179
It's one of those parts you can overthink. A USB adapter is usually preferred to an internal card, but mostly so you can wave it around if you're getting bad reception.

That rosewill will probably work about as well as the ASUS usb stick you linked before. Maybe it would have slightly longer range if your computer is really far from your wireless adapter (but not higher data rate). Maybe. If you have super-fast internet, you'd want a direct wired ethernet connection anyway. If you have DSL or something, they'll all work the same.

SC2 could probably be played on dialup. At least, I know I played BW on dial-up fine . I had a piece-of-shit bottom of the barrel Netgear wireless usb dongle I was using in a little side apartment while leeching (with permission) internet from a house about 40 yards away. So the signal had to go through two exterior walls, two closets, a tree, and deal with a significant elevation change (router on the 2nd floor of the house).

And it worked fine, although for the first few weeks I had to wave the dongle around. (Although I did have to download a firmware update to get some streaming services working right.) And this when what I bought was "the cheapest thing available at office max."

So just pick one.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 02:39:44
January 28 2012 02:37 GMT
#18180
thing is i'm stealing the neighbours internet, and i've read that some usb adapters do not work on certain routers. Also I just read that most uSB adapters are all made with similar chips so it really doesn't matter. I would of gotten the ASUS one, but it's not on sale anymore, it was at 15 dollars yesterday, now it's at 29.00
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