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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 24 2012 12:32 GMT
#18021
On January 24 2012 16:47 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Any help for my friend?


Ask around mid february i would say.
twitch.tv/medrea
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
January 24 2012 16:02 GMT
#18022
On January 24 2012 21:32 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 16:47 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Any help for my friend?


Ask around mid february i would say.

Why ? the components aren't going to change that much in price and and he doesnt have the budget for sandybridge, radeon 7xxx series and the next nvidia series coming out later this year...
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 24 2012 17:14 GMT
#18023
On January 24 2012 20:19 discw wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey all, I'm looking to upgrade my computer with stuff that should last a decent amount of time, budget is around 500. I already have a good monitor, gpu, keyboard, case, PSU, and mouse. It's mainly for gaming, (SC2, SWTOR, Mass Effect 3) and I do want to finally get into overclocking(I've never done it). Not much plan on streaming, unless there's a growing audience for platinum zergs.

Here's what I'm looking at:

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
cpu fan: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
MB: ASRock Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB from the CPU/memory bundle mentioned above
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.805911
HD: Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 7200.12 1TB SATA
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58746&vpn=ST31000524AS&manufacture=Seagate


Does that seem like a good deal for my budget, and am I missing anything? It's been years since I bought this stuff so I'm grateful for any advice. I see cheaper HD's but they're 16mb cache(like this), is that a bad idea?


Get Asrock P67 Pro3 instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 (unless of course you plan on doing SLI or CrossfireX in the future than you can stick with the Asrock Z68 Extreme3).

Cache size on HDDs don't matter and you're comparing 500gb to 1TB fyi. Bigger capacity HDDs will have more cache. If you care about disk performance than buy a SSD.
kx.agent
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada18 Posts
January 24 2012 17:39 GMT
#18024
Hi, I'm looking to upgrade my CPU, my goal being a good fps while streaming games like SC2, SWTOR and D3.

Specs:
Windows 7 64 bit
AMD Phenom II X4 945 Processor @ 3.0GHz
4x 2GB DDR3, Samsung? (if I'm using CPU-Z correctly)
ATI Raedon HD 5450
300 Watt power supply

I have a 1920x1080 monitor but I kinda hate it and would not mind using a different one if it can increase preformance.

I'm assuming my graphics card is the biggest issue in this computer, but I'm definitely not the most knowledgeable in the subject. If someone could give me a suggestion on how to best maximize this computer it would be awesome. I guess a reasonable price range would be 200-400$ish, but I'm hoping I can just update the graphics card and maybe the power supply to be able to do what I want this computer to do.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 17:51:27
January 24 2012 17:48 GMT
#18025
On January 24 2012 02:16 Josh_rakoons wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Heya all, getting a build for a friend, would appreciate your help!

Budget - £600 - £700

What are you using it for?
High end gaming, looking to play on maxed on the following three games: GW2, SWTOR, WoW. May transition over to some games such as sc2 and bf3.

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP, some time around mid february

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

Do you plan on overclocking?
No.

Do you need an operating system?
Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI for Crossfire?
If the budget suffices and the needs are necessary then yes.

Where are you buying your parts from?
UK, overclockers.co.uk seems like a good place.
Maybe scan.co.uk
Maybe ebuyer.com

Also need a builder, have a current builder that will charge £50 - £75. If can get cheaper.



Have a look at this as a guideline. http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/42ge

I think you could make it all one order (see "View prices by merchant"). I'll leave it up to you to research all your possible vendors for combo's and better deals on similar components.

Also there's some wiggle room in there. You could upgrade mobo, get a different case, go up to an i5 2500 just because you can, etc. If you want to get the price down, I'd probably just go down to a HD 6870 from the 560ti as the difference in performance is quite small and can save you 20-30 pounds. Other savings could be ~15-20 on the HDD if you go down to 500GB, and maybe ~10 on mobo by getting the most bare-bones mobo. I'd try to stick with the i5 2400 if possible over an i5 2300 or even an i3 2120.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 18:08:31
January 24 2012 17:54 GMT
#18026
On January 25 2012 02:39 kx.agent wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hi, I'm looking to upgrade my CPU, my goal being a good fps while streaming games like SC2, SWTOR and D3.

Specs:
Windows 7 64 bit
AMD Phenom II X4 945 Processor @ 3.0GHz
4x 2GB DDR3, Samsung? (if I'm using CPU-Z correctly)
ATI Raedon HD 5450
300 Watt power supply

I have a 1920x1080 monitor but I kinda hate it and would not mind using a different one if it can increase preformance.

I'm assuming my graphics card is the biggest issue in this computer, but I'm definitely not the most knowledgeable in the subject. If someone could give me a suggestion on how to best maximize this computer it would be awesome. I guess a reasonable price range would be 200-400$ish, but I'm hoping I can just update the graphics card and maybe the power supply to be able to do what I want this computer to do.



What mobo do you have? You could just get some aftermarket cooling and try overclocking that Phenom a little, maybe ~500-600 MHz. You should be able to have a decent 480p stream as long as your upload speed is fine. Streaming depends entirely on the CPU.

You need a new PSU and GPU for sure though if you want to play new games above low settings (or at all, a 5450 can hardly deliver playable frame rates at 1080p)
Good price on an Antec EarthWatts 500D PSU in Canada right now: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=47698&vpn=EA500D-Green&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1130

And for GPU, you'll probably want a HD 6870/GTX 560 or a HD 6950/GTX560 ti.

Edit:
With current prices, I'd get:
HD 6870: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58226&vpn=GV-R687OC-1GD&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1130
GTX 560: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=61236&vpn=GV-N56GOC-1GI&manufacture=Gigabyte

Or if you want more power:
560ti: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD9294&vpn=GV-N560OC-1GI&manfuacture=GIGABYTE
6950: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=64182&vpn=R6950 Twin Frozr III 1G/OC&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
January 24 2012 18:00 GMT
#18027
So... us.ncix.com & my bank dropped the ball on my order (case & DVD-rom) & it will probably arrive a few days or more behind the rest of the computer, which comes tomorrow. I'm sure I can figure out installing windows from a USB drive, but I have a question about running the computer without a case for awhile (reminder: this is a bare-bones computer with little more than an H61 mobo & a pentium g850).

I've always heard the joking "you can just use a cardboard box." So I guess the question is: can I really use the cardboard box? Mostly, I don't want to place the motherboard on something that could potentially damage it while its active and running. I'm not (quite) foolish enough to place it on something conductive (metal), but the three main options are: painted wooden shelf, a corner of a finished wooden desk, a cardboard box (open, of course, so the intel stock heatsink can get some air, possibly just a slab of cardboard). Power supply sitting next to the mobo, of course.

Thanks in advance for the replies (I won't be able to read & respond until late tonight).
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
SnowSC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States678 Posts
January 24 2012 18:05 GMT
#18028
Need a new network card, any price is fine. recommendations?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 24 2012 18:07 GMT
#18029
On January 25 2012 03:00 MisterFred wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
So... us.ncix.com & my bank dropped the ball on my order (case & DVD-rom) & it will probably arrive a few days or more behind the rest of the computer, which comes tomorrow. I'm sure I can figure out installing windows from a USB drive, but I have a question about running the computer without a case for awhile (reminder: this is a bare-bones computer with little more than an H61 mobo & a pentium g850).

I've always heard the joking "you can just use a cardboard box." So I guess the question is: can I really use the cardboard box? Mostly, I don't want to place the motherboard on something that could potentially damage it while its active and running. I'm not (quite) foolish enough to place it on something conductive (metal), but the three main options are: painted wooden shelf, a corner of a finished wooden desk, a cardboard box (open, of course, so the intel stock heatsink can get some air, possibly just a slab of cardboard). Power supply sitting next to the mobo, of course.

Thanks in advance for the replies (I won't be able to read & respond until late tonight).


Yes.

On January 25 2012 03:05 SnowSC2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Need a new network card, any price is fine. recommendations?


Intel.
SnowSC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States678 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 18:48:39
January 24 2012 18:15 GMT
#18030
On January 25 2012 03:07 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 03:00 MisterFred wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
So... us.ncix.com & my bank dropped the ball on my order (case & DVD-rom) & it will probably arrive a few days or more behind the rest of the computer, which comes tomorrow. I'm sure I can figure out installing windows from a USB drive, but I have a question about running the computer without a case for awhile (reminder: this is a bare-bones computer with little more than an H61 mobo & a pentium g850).

I've always heard the joking "you can just use a cardboard box." So I guess the question is: can I really use the cardboard box? Mostly, I don't want to place the motherboard on something that could potentially damage it while its active and running. I'm not (quite) foolish enough to place it on something conductive (metal), but the three main options are: painted wooden shelf, a corner of a finished wooden desk, a cardboard box (open, of course, so the intel stock heatsink can get some air, possibly just a slab of cardboard). Power supply sitting next to the mobo, of course.

Thanks in advance for the replies (I won't be able to read & respond until late tonight).


Yes.

Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 03:05 SnowSC2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Need a new network card, any price is fine. recommendations?


Intel.

Shouldve mentioned wireless as well, and im looking at this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106062
could this be used in a desktop (with antennas)?

Any good wireless desktop cards is what i guess im asking
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
January 24 2012 19:46 GMT
#18031
I've never been so pissed at NCIX in my life, such shitty service.

Not sure if anyone remembers the build I made on December 31st... Well the idiots there have it indicated that everything I purchased was in stock. 7-8~ days later my order still hasn't been shipped, so I see what's up. Next day it is 2500k + P67A C43 bundle for $315 is on back-order. I email them, they keep assuring me it'll be coming the next day for over the last week.

Today again I got a message that the ETA is today, although if you don't want to wait you can get a 2500k + whichever motherboard for current pricing. Shittiest service on the face of the planet, how dare they charge my card for the order and not ship it for another 3 weeks? Now I don't even know if I want to cancel the order, or wait, and getting a new mobo w/ P67 would cost at least $45 more with their current pricing.

Never using NCIX again, terrible experience.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
January 24 2012 20:05 GMT
#18032
thats just the bad experience of online retailers. thats why i prefer to buy from local retailers (most of the time/whenever possible)
<3 Kim Taeyeon
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 24 2012 20:34 GMT
#18033
so , just an update, ordered everything , decided to stay with my LG Flatron L1920P, ill buy a new monitor later, when i get a bit more money. Or should I really invest in a new monitor? also, i got XP tiny for free, is this fine or should i really be upgrading to windows 7, another question. I don't have speakers and would like to hear the new SC2 sounds, which headphones should I get ?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 24 2012 22:57 GMT
#18034
On January 25 2012 01:02 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 21:32 Medrea wrote:
On January 24 2012 16:47 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Any help for my friend?


Ask around mid february i would say.

Why ? the components aren't going to change that much in price and and he doesnt have the budget for sandybridge, radeon 7xxx series and the next nvidia series coming out later this year...


The 7850 is supposed to be like $200 which I am pretty sure fits inside your friends budget. Lets wait for the full line to be released.
twitch.tv/medrea
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 24 2012 23:19 GMT
#18035
On January 25 2012 03:15 SnowSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 03:07 skyR wrote:
On January 25 2012 03:00 MisterFred wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
So... us.ncix.com & my bank dropped the ball on my order (case & DVD-rom) & it will probably arrive a few days or more behind the rest of the computer, which comes tomorrow. I'm sure I can figure out installing windows from a USB drive, but I have a question about running the computer without a case for awhile (reminder: this is a bare-bones computer with little more than an H61 mobo & a pentium g850).

I've always heard the joking "you can just use a cardboard box." So I guess the question is: can I really use the cardboard box? Mostly, I don't want to place the motherboard on something that could potentially damage it while its active and running. I'm not (quite) foolish enough to place it on something conductive (metal), but the three main options are: painted wooden shelf, a corner of a finished wooden desk, a cardboard box (open, of course, so the intel stock heatsink can get some air, possibly just a slab of cardboard). Power supply sitting next to the mobo, of course.

Thanks in advance for the replies (I won't be able to read & respond until late tonight).


Yes.

On January 25 2012 03:05 SnowSC2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Need a new network card, any price is fine. recommendations?


Intel.

Shouldve mentioned wireless as well, and im looking at this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106062
could this be used in a desktop (with antennas)?

Any good wireless desktop cards is what i guess im asking


That's for a lapatop. Most people suggest getting a USB adapter instead of an internal card.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 00:41:35
January 25 2012 00:39 GMT
#18036
They are willing to replace my: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59096&vpn=P67A-C43 (B3)&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar

substitute

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=66936&vpn=GA-Z68AP-D3&manufacture=Gigabyte

Should I accept that? And somehow I forgot to include RAM in my initial build, fml...
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 25 2012 00:48 GMT
#18037
Get them to replace with a G43? http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59095 , pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
January 25 2012 01:02 GMT
#18038
On January 25 2012 09:48 skyR wrote:
Get them to replace with a G43? http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59095 , pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583


You are amazing at finding these deals... how do you do it! Thank you so much (=

I mailed them your suggestion, hope they allow it.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 01:25:38
January 25 2012 01:21 GMT
#18039
They just emailed me back:

"Normally, I would have no problem to help you make the change, however that board is currently out of stock in our production facility, it appears across our inventory, there's only one of those boards, and it's in our Eastern Facility. The transfer itself would take 5-7 business days. Is there any other board which would work for you? I have no problem to add the RAM, and the external hard drive, however all the changes will be made as soon as the board is picked out and ready to go. Thanks."

Not sure what I can really ask for, their other P67 boards seem to be pretty expensive. I'm so needy, I'm sorry. The old Mobo I'm trying to replace is $118 btw.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 25 2012 01:27 GMT
#18040
I think the ASUS P8Z68-M Pro should be in stock at BC: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64104 , you can pricematch to $120: http://www.hookbag.ca/product/H3C06MO4O/
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