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Major
Mexico539 Posts
On January 23 2012 15:14 skyR wrote: Uh prebuilts such as HP, etc definitely do not carry a three year warranty... i heard ur god in this kind of threads something like flash from star 1 would u mind helping a newbie that needs a new computer? tyty | ||
Boblhead
United States2577 Posts
On January 23 2012 15:11 GosI[Terran] wrote: i appreciate ur words of kidness but i still dont undestearnd anyhthing u just said if u could give me literally a list of what i need to buy i would do that just a list of everything with name of what i have to buy T.T im so bad sorry; Its easier to buy a already assembled computer but I will write a list like Myrs to help you so you know what to look for with artosis. Tell artosis you want a Intel second generation core i5 processor 4 gigabytes of ddr3 ram 500 gigabyte hard drive h61 motherboard 400watt power supply a ATI 6570 graphics card a SATA DVD optical drive (for cds/dvds) Windows 7 home premium 64 bit. | ||
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Mexico539 Posts
On January 23 2012 15:18 Boblhead wrote: Its easier to buy a already assembled computer but I will write a list like Myrs to help you so you know what to look for with artosis. Tell artosis you want a Intel second generation core i5 processor 4 gigabytes of ddr3 ram 500 gigabyte hard drive h61 motherboard 400watt power supply a ATI 6570 graphics card a SATA DVD optical drive (for cds/dvds) Windows 7 home premium 64 bit. thank you | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
Pretty much look for one of those places that will build the computer for you on the spot - assuming they still exist. I can't give you totally exact product numbers, because they might not have a full selection, same as online stores here in the states. Then get (this is basically just Myrmidon's list repeated): Processor: One of i5-2500, i5-2400, i5-2320, i5-2310, i5-2300. (higher number = slightly faster, slightly more expensive, shouldn't be a major difference either way) Motherboard: Cheapest motherboard the place has that will work with the above processor. If a salesman tries to give you some bullshit about needing this or that, don't worry. Any motherboard that the processor will fit into and turn on will do everything you need it to do. Only possible exception (not that important, ignore if you want): if you happen to have gigabit per second internet (crazy fast speeds I've never heard of, but it is South Korea) some mother boards don't have network controllers that. It's not actually important, because the internet will still work fine with the lesser network controller, it'll just be very fast instead of crazy fast. The different notation is 10/100Mbps or 10/100/1000Mbps. If the sales man is convincing you that a board with 10/100/1000Mbps is better, it might be, but only for like $5-10. RAM: The salesman should offer you DDR3 (not DDR2) RAM, because only that will work with the above processor & motherboard. You want a 2x2gb combo (two sticks of 2gb each) or, if it is within budget, 2x4gb of RAM. Speed & other specifications doesn't really matter. You don't really need to know this, but 1333mhz is the desired speed. If speed doesn't come up, don't worry about it. Just letting you know so you can avoid an up-sale. Hard Drive: What I said before. You'll probably end up with a hard drive that gives you roughly 500gb of space - but less is fine is there's a big price difference. Speed should be 7200rpm, but that's the default speed. The only other real option is 5400rpm, and that's less common, so if its not specified, I wouldn't worry about it. Graphics Card: One of: Radeon HD: 6570 6670 (same as 5670) 6770 (same as 5770) GTX: 450 460 The 460 & 6770 should be able to do ultra or near-ultra settings. The lower numbers should be somewhere from medum to ultra. DVD-ROM: Whatever is cheapest. Should be SATA, but a salesman should only offer SATA. Case: Pretty much any case. Yet another item you can skimp on and go budget. Power Supply: Most power supplies should provide enough juice for your system (it is not power intensive). So while you might get stuck with a crap power supply since we don't know what the brands are over there, it probably won't matter. If the salesman swears up and down something is better than something else $5 cheaper, it might be, but you shouldn't need to pay more than $45-equivalent. If it has a label that says "80 plus" "80 plus silver" or something like that, it's probably quality. Don't stress the choice. Windows 7. Remember to request your preferred language is installed. If they ask you, you want the 64-bit version, not the 32-bit version (should be same price). They may have various more expensive packages. Just get the cheapest. Basically, it's not as hard as it sounds. I think if you write this down or print it out and they actually build it there (you can see it running, heh), there's not that much that can go wrong. The main thing is to get the right processor from the list of 5 acceptable options above. Edit: My list is basically the same as the abbreviated short one above, so don't worry about conflicts. | ||
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Mexico539 Posts
On January 23 2012 15:34 MisterFred wrote: @ Terran Pretty much look for one of those places that will build the computer for you on the spot - assuming they still exist. I can't give you totally exact product numbers, because they might not have a full selection, same as online stores here in the states. Then get (this is basically just Myrmidon's list repeated): Processor: One of i5-2500, i5-2400, i5-2320, i5-2310, i5-2300. (higher number = slightly faster, slightly more expensive, shouldn't be a major difference either way) Motherboard: Cheapest motherboard the place has that will work with the above processor. If a salesman tries to give you some bullshit about needing this or that, don't worry. Any motherboard that the processor will fit into and turn on will do everything you need it to do. Only possible exception (not that important, ignore if you want): if you happen to have gigabit per second internet (crazy fast speeds I've never heard of, but it is South Korea) some mother boards don't have network controllers that. It's not actually important, because the internet will still work fine with the lesser network controller, it'll just be very fast instead of crazy fast. The different notation is 10/100Mbps or 10/100/1000Mbps. If the sales man is convincing you that a board with 10/100/1000Mbps is better, it might be, but only for like $5-10. RAM: The salesman should offer you DDR3 (not DDR2) RAM, because only that will work with the above processor & motherboard. You want a 2x2gb combo (two sticks of 2gb each) or, if it is within budget, 2x4gb of RAM. Speed & other specifications doesn't really matter. You don't really need to know this, but 1333mhz is the desired speed. If speed doesn't come up, don't worry about it. Just letting you know so you can avoid an up-sale. love you Hard Drive: What I said before. You'll probably end up with a hard drive that gives you roughly 500gb of space - but less is fine is there's a big price difference. Speed should be 7200rpm, but that's the default speed. The only other real option is 5400rpm, and that's less common, so if its not specified, I wouldn't worry about it. Graphics Card: One of: Radeon HD: 6570 6670 (same as 5670) 6770 (same as 5770) GTX: 450 460 The 460 & 6770 should be able to do ultra or near-ultra settings. The lower numbers should be somewhere from medum to ultra. DVD-ROM: Whatever is cheapest. Should be SATA, but a salesman should only offer SATA. Case: Pretty much any case. Yet another item you can skimp on and go budget. Power Supply: Most power supplies should provide enough juice for your system (it is not power intensive). So while you might get stuck with a crap power supply since we don't know what the brands are over there, it probably won't matter. If the salesman swears up and down something is better than something else $5 cheaper, it might be, but you shouldn't need to pay more than $45-equivalent. If it has a label that says "80 plus" "80 plus silver" or something like that, it's probably quality. Don't stress the choice. Windows 7. Remember to request your preferred language is installed. If they ask you, you want the 64-bit version, not the 32-bit version (should be same price). They may have various more expensive packages. Just get the cheapest. Basically, it's not as hard as it sounds. I think if you write this down or print it out and they actually build it there (you can see it running, heh), there's not that much that can go wrong. The main thing is to get the right processor from the list of 5 acceptable options above. Edit: My list is basically the same as the abbreviated short one above, so don't worry about conflicts. love you | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
Nope.jpg Im gonna stick to keeping your in game framerate high while pitching what i can to streaming. + Show Spoiler + Motherboard: BIOSTAR H61MLC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138340 54.99$ Processor: Intel Core i5-2320 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115091 $189.99 Graphics Card: XFX 6770 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150540 $95.00 RAM: Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003 23.49$ Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697 54.99$ (Yeah not anymore, good luck) Case: XIGMATEK Asgard II http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815004 29.99$ Power Supply: Corsair 430W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026&Tpk=Corsair 430W 44.99$ Optical Drive: SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AB - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233 16.99$ Suggested Resolution: 1680x1050, 1920x1080 with reduced details, runs SC2 on ultra in 1920x1080 with some reduced CPU settings I dunno this build is like mid 500's. I have no idea what pricing is like in Korea so building a computer over there is going to require the knowledge to know where and what you can swap out. Prices are going to be all over the place, you arent gonna be buying from newegg. Can you salvage anything from an old build? Namely hard drive, optical drive. Case. Anything else Im not thinking of. Either way the above is just a reference. If you mark it down on paper and tell someone "that" generally you should be ok. Not the best, just ok, but thats the price of knowledge I guess. Best case scenario is you get someone who knows his shit to go with you. Don't you train in the vicinity of people who know something? Its extremely common for a PC gamer to know how to build computers so i imagine someone knows what to do and how it works in Korea. Needing a hard drive especially is killing you on the budget. Without that we can add a LOT more. | ||
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parabellum
United States4 Posts
Computer Specs: Vista Home 64-bit SP2 CPU Intel i7 920 @ 2.67GHz RAM 2GBx3 Corsiar DDR3 Motherboard Gigabyte Technology EX58-UD4P Graphics ATI Radeon HD 4800 series Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar SE 500GB Internal 7200 RPM 3.5" Hard Drive Edit: Monitor is Apple Cinema 30-inch HD Flat-Panel Display Native res: 2560x1600 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
If you're looking to spend as little as possible to achieve acceptable FPS on reasonably high settings in games than you're looking at Radeon HD6870 (~$170), GTX 560 Ti (~$230), and GTX 560 Ti 448 (~$280). | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
Given that, you should probably just spend all your money on the video card, especially if BF3 (one of the most demanding games in terms of video cards) is an important game for you. Diablo 3 should run decently even on low-end cards, so if you don't actually care about BF3, but, say, cared a lot about WoW, you could get a mid-range card and an SSD. As for the resolution you play on, this should depend on your monitor.You should play on its native resolution. What is the maximum (=native) resolution of your monitor? Assuming BF3 with a monitor native to 1920x1080, you should just buy a really good video card. If super-high ultra quality is important to you, spend as much as $550 on a new 7970. In my opinion, that's a little ridiculous. If simple "high" settings are enough for you, then you want to look at (in order of price): 6870 560Ti - these last two should just meet the 40 fps cutoff on "high" at 1920x1080 - they just missed it at 1920x1200 in this benchmark: http://www.techspot.com/review/458-battlefield-3-performance/page5.html 6950 (1GB) 560Ti-448 6970 (1GB)/570 580 (1.5gb) - you might be able to find a decent deal on a used one of these. If I were you, and BF3 was going to be my favorite game, I'd probably get a video card around $300 and either pocket the rest or get an SSD. If I was 'meh' on BF3, I'd probably get a video card around $200-220 & either pocket the rest or get an SSD. (Or do same, but pocket less & get an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking.) Edit: Note that if your monitor has a different resolution, recommendations change. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
The fact these cards can even run Battlefield 3 with 4x MSAA is kind of testament to how overblown the "BF3 needs high system specs" meme is kind of overblown. Yes you'll have large dips when there's a lot of things happening but in urban combat, frame rates should be surprisingly high. If you want to go native resolution on your 30" beast, you're going to want to get the HD7970. Pretty much the best option. | ||
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Dojun
Sweden6 Posts
What is your budget? Around 2500 Euro, that budget is including a screen and a new OS, screen should be a 21 inch. I have a Corsair TX 750w PSU that I could use from my old computer if that is enough, would new a new PSU for old computer tho in that case, Gforce 8800GT and a AMD dual core from 5 years ago. What are you using it for? Gaming gaming gaming What is your upgrade cycle? I get a bit more cash to spare nowdays so later it would be good if the computer was uppgradable wihtout having to change everything at once. I would say some 2-3 years. When do you plan on building it? Late Febuari early March. Unless there are some new things comming out around there that it could be worth waiting for, then I could delay it a month or two. Do you plan on overclocking? No not really. Do you need an Operating System? Yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? If the price/performance is right adding another GPU will be done. Where are you buying your parts from? Going to buy them in Sweden, so komplett.se, inet.se, or if someone else knows a good reliable company from there | ||
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
Budget - £600 - £700 What are you using it for? High end gaming, looking to play on maxed on the following three games: GW2, SWTOR, WoW. May transition over to some games such as sc2 and bf3. When do you plan on building it? ASAP, some time around mid february What is your resolution? 1920x1080 Do you plan on overclocking? No. Do you need an operating system? Yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI for Crossfire? If the budget suffices and the needs are necessary then yes. Where are you buying your parts from? UK, overclockers.co.uk seems like a good place. Maybe scan.co.uk Maybe ebuyer.com Also need a builder, have a current builder that will charge £50 - £75. If can get cheaper. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
What are you using it for? BF3, SWTOR, GW2, sc2, high end games basically. When do you plan on building it? Soon as possible What is your resolution? 1920x1080 (two monitors) Do you plan on overclocking? Yes Do you need an operating system? No. Do you plan to add a second GPU? Yes Where are you buying your parts from? Wherever is cheapest, live in U.S. Here's what I have so far (Haven't built a computer in 6 years so willing to take criticism/advice if any of it could be replaced or is just a bad idea) Computer Case GPU x2 PSU Ram Mobo CPU Still need an aftermarket heatsink. Pulling my HDD's from my other computer so I don't have a need for those as of now either. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On January 24 2012 00:36 Dojun wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hello there, so I am looking to get myself a new computer as the old one is getting mighty old and has problems with most new games What is your budget? Around 2500 Euro, that budget is including a screen and a new OS, screen should be a 21 inch. I have a Corsair TX 750w PSU that I could use from my old computer if that is enough, would new a new PSU for old computer tho in that case, Gforce 8800GT and a AMD dual core from 5 years ago. What are you using it for? Gaming gaming gaming What is your upgrade cycle? I get a bit more cash to spare nowdays so later it would be good if the computer was uppgradable wihtout having to change everything at once. I would say some 2-3 years. When do you plan on building it? Late Febuari early March. Unless there are some new things comming out around there that it could be worth waiting for, then I could delay it a month or two. Do you plan on overclocking? No not really. Do you need an Operating System? Yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? If the price/performance is right adding another GPU will be done. Where are you buying your parts from? Going to buy them in Sweden, so komplett.se, inet.se, or if someone else knows a good reliable company from there Ask again in a month since new products will be out by than. And 2500 euro is a very very large budget, spending all of this on the tower itself would be wasting money. It's in your best interest to spend some of your money on getting more monitors, a better keyboard, a better sound system, and better furniture. On January 24 2012 05:02 Infernal_dream wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Budget : 800-900. Willing to go a little over. What are you using it for? BF3, SWTOR, GW2, sc2, high end games basically. When do you plan on building it? Soon as possible What is your resolution? 1920x1080 (two monitors) Do you plan on overclocking? Yes Do you need an operating system? No. Do you plan to add a second GPU? Yes Where are you buying your parts from? Wherever is cheapest, live in U.S. Here's what I have so far (Haven't built a computer in 6 years so willing to take criticism/advice if any of it could be replaced or is just a bad idea) Computer Case GPU x2 PSU Ram Mobo CPU Still need an aftermarket heatsink. Pulling my HDD's from my other computer so I don't have a need for those as of now either. 1600MHz cas9 @ 1.65v memory is overpriced at $42. You can get the memory in a bundle with the 2500k: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.805911 A 750w unit is unnecessary for such a configuration. A core i5 2500k a stock uses roughly 60w and a pair of Radeon HD6850s would use roughly 200w, both under full load. A Rosewill Capstone 650w is the best choice for a multi-GPU configuration right now at $81: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071 You can get a 500w unit as well: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 Doing CrossfireX for 1080p is pretty stupid since a single card can run most games smoothly on reasonably high settings. HAF912 would be a better choice for a case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
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Aron Times
United States312 Posts
What is your budget? $500 to $600. The only stuff I can reuse from my old PC is my wireless mouse. What is your resolution? My current resolution is 1280x1024. I will probably get a bigger monitor if the budget allows for it. What are you using it for? I will be using it mostly for gaming and streaming. I will be playing mostly Starcraft 2 and Team Fortress 2, and mostly 1v1 for the former. What is your upgrade cycle? I like buying behind the curve to save on money. I have a relatively long ugprade cycle, with three years or more between upgrades. When do you plan on building it? Within three months. That should be enough time to get most of my bills paid and have enough saved up to buy the new PC. Probably sooner if I get enough overtime, but more overtime = less Starcraft 2 and Team Fortress 2. Also, I have not build a PC in a very long time. I suppose I can assemble one with help from the Internet, but I might have to use IBuyPower.com or something similar so I don't have to do it myself. What do you recommend? Do you plan on overclocking? No. I want a computer that lasts for several years, and overclocking shortens a processor's lifespan, or so I've heard. Do you need an Operating System? Yes. Unless I can move my Windows 7 OEM from my current desktop to the new one, which I doubt. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? I'm on a $600 budget, so probably not. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On January 24 2012 13:59 Eternal Dalek wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hello, Team Liquid! I got a new job on December 27, 2011, so I now have some income. Bills and necessities are top priority for me, and I think I can save up enough cash to get a new PC within one to three months. What is your budget? $500 to $600. The only stuff I can reuse from my old PC is my wireless mouse. What is your resolution? My current resolution is 1280x1024. I will probably get a bigger monitor if the budget allows for it. What are you using it for? I will be using it mostly for gaming and streaming. I will be playing mostly Starcraft 2 and Team Fortress 2, and mostly 1v1 for the former. What is your upgrade cycle? I like buying behind the curve to save on money. I have a relatively long ugprade cycle, with three years or more between upgrades. When do you plan on building it? Within three months. That should be enough time to get most of my bills paid and have enough saved up to buy the new PC. Probably sooner if I get enough overtime, but more overtime = less Starcraft 2 and Team Fortress 2. Also, I have not build a PC in a very long time. I suppose I can assemble one with help from the Internet, but I might have to use IBuyPower.com or something similar so I don't have to do it myself. What do you recommend? Do you plan on overclocking? No. I want a computer that lasts for several years, and overclocking shortens a processor's lifespan, or so I've heard. Do you need an Operating System? Yes. Unless I can move my Windows 7 OEM from my current desktop to the new one, which I doubt. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? I'm on a $600 budget, so probably not. You can re-use your Windows 7. There's no point in asking now if you aren't building for three months since pricing isn't static and new products will have been released by the time you are purchasing. You're not going to get a prebuilt that's anything more than shit with a $600 budget. If your intention is to stream with such a low budget than you are going to need to build it yourself. | ||
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
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discw
United States122 Posts
Here's what I'm looking at: CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 cpu fan: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 MB: ASRock Z68 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271 Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB from the CPU/memory bundle mentioned above http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.805911 HD: Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 7200.12 1TB SATA http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58746&vpn=ST31000524AS&manufacture=Seagate Does that seem like a good deal for my budget, and am I missing anything? It's been years since I bought this stuff so I'm grateful for any advice. I see cheaper HD's but they're 16mb cache(like this), is that a bad idea? | ||
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