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InDaHouse
Sweden956 Posts
On September 25 2010 19:15 deconduo wrote: The molex connectors will be on your power supply as well. I found a second PCI-E cable in my basement to plug in so that solved it. Thank u everyone for your help! | ||
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divadretrac
United Kingdom36 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On September 26 2010 00:10 divadretrac wrote: Thank you very much deconduo, I will be looking to find these parts on some uk sites and probably be ordering on monday. 320gb is a little small so will probably be going for the 1tb option as I tend to fill them up with games, music and films. tnx again Just so you know, Hardwareversand does ship to the UK, and will probably work out cheaper than most UK sites. Do look around and keep an eye on the exchange rate as well. | ||
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DoubleZee
Canada556 Posts
Case: Coolermaster 690 - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=49224&promoid=1058 Mobo:Gigabyte - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=52049 GPU: GTX 460 - http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=54474&vpn=768-P3-1360-TR&manufacture=eVGA RAM: 4GB DDR3 - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=42745 CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=46281&promoid=1030 CPU FAN: Coolermaster Hyper 212- http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=41337 PSU: OCZ 500W - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=33040 HD: Seagate 500GB - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=36050&promoid=1030 | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On September 26 2010 01:06 DoubleZee wrote: I'm going to order parts for my build this week after putting it off for a month or two. Does everything look good? It comes to $890 after price checking and taxes. Case: Coolermaster 690 - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=49224&promoid=1058 Mobo:Gigabyte - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=52049 GPU: GTX 460 - http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=54474&vpn=768-P3-1360-TR&manufacture=eVGA RAM: 4GB DDR3 - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=42745 CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=46281&promoid=1030 CPU FAN: Coolermaster Hyper 212- http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=41337 PSU: OCZ 500W - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=33040 HD: Seagate 500GB - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=36050&promoid=1030 Looks pretty good, you are missing an optical drive though. | ||
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DoubleZee
Canada556 Posts
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snowbird
Germany2044 Posts
On September 26 2010 01:06 DoubleZee wrote: I'm going to order parts for my build this week after putting it off for a month or two. Does everything look good? It comes to $890 after price checking and taxes. Case: Coolermaster 690 - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=49224&promoid=1058 Mobo:Gigabyte - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=52049 GPU: GTX 460 - http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=54474&vpn=768-P3-1360-TR&manufacture=eVGA RAM: 4GB DDR3 - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=42745 CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=46281&promoid=1030 CPU FAN: Coolermaster Hyper 212- http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=41337 PSU: OCZ 500W - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=33040 HD: Seagate 500GB - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=36050&promoid=1030 Looks good even though I would make a few different choices. I wouldn't choose that PSU. It'll probably be enough for your system but it has only 18A at the +12V Rail (check the specifications), so even though it's a 500W PSU, it's a pretty weak one. The +12V Rail of a PSU is by far the most important because it powers the processor, drives and graphics card. The PSU you chose can only supply 210W of power at the 12V rail. (12V x 18A = 210). If you want a quality PSU at only 20$ more I'd recommend this one: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=52173&vpn=S12II 520&manufacture=Seasonic Electronics It has +12V@40A, which really is a lot. It can supply 12V x 40A = 480W at the 12V rail which is enough for almost anything. Edit: Oh I just saw that the PSU you picked has 2x 12V rails, it's not that bad then  . The one I recommended is still better though.Other than that I'd pick the 1GB GTX460 over the 768mb one and wouldn't get 1600 RAM, because it's pretty useless. I'd also pick another CPU cooler probably and get a 1TB hd for a few bucks more but that's all just minor stuff | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On September 26 2010 02:41 snowbird wrote: Looks good even though I would make a few different choices. I wouldn't choose that PSU. It'll probably be enough for your system but it has only 18A at the +12V Rail (check the specifications), so even though it's a 500W PSU, it's a pretty weak one. The +12V Rail of a PSU is by far the most important because it powers the processor, drives and graphics card. The PSU you chose can only supply 210W of power at the 12V rail. (12V x 18A = 210). Other than that I'd pick the 1GB GTX460 over the 768mb one and wouldn't get 1600 RAM, because it's pretty useless. I'd also pick another CPU cooler probably and get a 1TB hd for a few bucks more but that's all just minor stuff The ModXStream Pro 500W lists 18A max on +12V1 and 18A max on +12V2 for 432W (36A) total on +12V. It's fine, though it may not exactly be the best unit ever at that wattage. 768 MB version GTX 460 is fine unless you plan on doing antialiasing at 1920x1080 or plan on keeping the GPU for a long time with future games in mind. With the increased price separation between the 768 MB and 1 GB versions, I think it's a good choice. 1600 RAM is arguably a waste, but the price difference between that and the 1333 RAM I could find is just a few dollars, and he does seem to be planning on overclocking. | ||
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xshnoopy
11 Posts
On September 25 2010 18:43 deconduo wrote: $80 Gigabyte GA-770T-USB3 Motherboard $170 EVGA GTX460 $150 Phenom II X4 955 BE + DVD RW $110 NZXT Beta + 4GB G-Skill RAM $100 OCZ Fatal1ty 550W + Spinpoint F3 500GB Total $610 or $585 after MIR. Thank you so much! added everything to cart and it loooks great! | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On September 26 2010 03:37 xshnoopy wrote: Thank you so much! added everything to cart and it loooks great! That's a good budget case, but they only put in a single intake fan and no exhaust fans in there to keep the base cost down. With that CPU and GPU, you'll be generating a decent amount of heat, so consider getting an additional 120mm fan to put in the back and maybe a 140mm fan to put in the top for exhaust. The mesh openings and mounting holes for those upgrades are already there. Also, this PSU and HDD are slightly better and cheaper: $95 ($15 MIR) OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W + WD Caviar Black 640GB | ||
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xshnoopy
11 Posts
On September 26 2010 04:08 Myrmidon wrote: That's a good budget case, but they only put in a single intake fan and no exhaust fans in there to keep the base cost down. With that CPU and GPU, you'll be generating a decent amount of heat, so consider getting an additional 120mm fan to put in the back and maybe a 140mm fan to put in the top for exhaust. The mesh openings and mounting holes for those upgrades are already there. Also, this PSU and HDD are slightly better and cheaper: $95 ($15 MIR) OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W + WD Caviar Black 640GB would this fan work? or could you recommend a fan for me please and thanks, i changed the psu and hdd | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On September 26 2010 04:22 xshnoopy wrote: would this fan work? or could you recommend a fan for me please and thanks, i changed the psu and hdd No, case fans, not CPU cooler heatsinks, so that's something much cheaper. A fan is a fan, and if it's the right size, it will fit. Some move more air than others, and some are louder than others. I wouldn't get anything more fancy than this in general. | ||
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xshnoopy
11 Posts
On September 26 2010 04:53 Myrmidon wrote: No, case fans, not CPU cooler heatsinks, so that's something much cheaper. A fan is a fan, and if it's the right size, it will fit. Some move more air than others, and some are louder than others. I wouldn't get anything more fancy than this in general. ohh okay. Thank you | ||
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blitzkrieger
United States512 Posts
On September 17 2010 10:11 GeneralStan wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 16 2010 17:12 blitzkrieger wrote: Hey I was wondering if I should upgrade my CPU/Motherboard. I bought a crappy Dell comp a while back, XPS 410 and have been upgrading it for a long time (06 maybe). I plan on building an entire comp and have been doing research but atm funds don't allow. 350W -> 650W PS (some OCZ Silent X Stream) 2GB -> 4GB Ram ??? -> Nvidia 9800GTX+ Vista 32 -> Windows 7 64 bit 2.13Ghz Dual Core Duo 120GB HD (suits my needs) 22" monitor @ 1680x1050 I also use that readyboost with an 8GB flashdrive and have maybe 16GB page file ram as well. I wanted to replace the processor but I figure I'll probably have to replace the Mobo as well but the issues with what socket is compatible and all that is too much for me. Here is a link to what I think my Mobo is: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/xps410/en/SM_EN/specs.htm Is it even worth it to upgrade my CPU and/or Mobo or should I just wait and build a new PC in a year or two? Could an i7 work well with my setup (assuming I replace the mobo?). I'm pretty bad at compatibility issues but I know how to install everything (except multiple harddrives lol). 1. You could drop an 8400 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037&cm_re=e8400-_-19-115-037-_-Product) into the socket and that will work. It's the pretty much top of the line Core 2 Duo (Dual Core), and that's going to give you the most bang for your buck for SC II in replacing your CPU. The problem here is that you're spending $170 on a dead-end upgrade, which might be alright if you're going to build a better computer in the future. It will certainly make it an acceptable gaming machine for the forseeable future, and a backup to what you hope to build (where that 2.1 GHz Core 2 Duo is really going to hold you back alot.) 2. Alternatively you could spend the full $400 and pick up an i5-750, and a Mobo, and RAM, which will give you a suitable performance boost, and will be worth spending money to upgrade graphics at some point in the future. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215&cm_re=i5_750-_-19-115-215-_-Product and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128437 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231275 for example). On the other hand, if you wait until you're building a full computer, $400 will likely go a lot farther as new CPUs will have been released. 3. Wait. In short: 1. Spend $200 to max out your current upgrade path, and save the rest for later on down. You'll be able to use the whole current computer as a capable backup when the time comes. 2. Spend the full $400 and give your PC a whole new lease on life, but at cost of foregoing putting more awesome guts at the center of computer later down the line. 3. Wait and make do with the current clunker until you get all new and shiny i7 isn't doable on a $400 budget for cpu/mobo/RAM Actually I have changed my mind and want to make this comp better. My dad said he will buy this off me later and I can get a new comp then. Are you sure those pieces are compatible with my system? I made a detailed post on OC.net http://www.overclock.net/intel-general/831965-upgrading-gaming-comp-need-advice-please.html#post10812690 Do I have to get the RAM? And is my current RAM compatible with that mobo? I know how to build and what's good in comps for the most part but I suck at compatibility and it stresses me out lol... I also want a case and HS to overclock this. I think 10 dollars more for 2.8 is better and I think it overclocks better as well. CPU: Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I5750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215 Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115067 Mobo: EVGA P55 SLI 132-LF-E655-KR LGA1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188055 GIGABYTE GA-H55-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128437 Case: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021 Heatsink: (I have Amazon Prime so free 2 day shipping vs $8 Newegg :D) http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-B10-212P-G1-Universal-Heat-Pipe/dp/B002G1YPH0/ref=sr_1_1?s=STORE&ie=UTF8&qid=1285457708&sr=8-1 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Your current ram is DDR2. Core i5 / i7 requires DDR3 so yes you need to get new ram as DDR2 and DDR3 are not backwards compatible. There are better cases than the antec 900 for the money such as the coolermaster scout, coolermaster haf 922 / 932, and coolermaster 690ii. You want to get a P55 board, not a H55. H55 is meant for CPUs with integrated graphics, which you aren't going to be buying or using. | ||
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-Simplicity-
United States83 Posts
Price Range: ~$500-750 without monitor Something like: CPU - core I3 processor or amd equivalent? GPU - amd 5770 or 5830? RAM - 4 Gigs (what brand?) HD - 250 gig (brand?) Case - Antec 300 (Is this a good case?) Motherboard - No idea PSU - No idea (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371020) is that good? Optical Drive - what brand? (don't need blue ray or burning, just standard) Don't need OS Thanks | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Agreed with skyR. Well, you can use a H55 mobo with a CPU without integrated graphics, but it seems like kind of a waste. I would get a i5-760, P55 mobo, and CM 690ii, especially since you can get them together in a combo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.500724 -Simplicity-: For the price range, AMD is a better value. You may still have some fps issues at ultra at that resolution for larger battles, but it should be good to go mostly. A GTX 460 1GB here beats the HD 5830 in SC2 by a decent but not large amount. Phenom II X4 955 + ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 AM3 AMD 870 mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.509748 MSI GTX 460 1 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127510&cm_re=gtx_460_1gb-_-14-127-510-_-Product A-Data 2x2GB DDR3 1333 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211410 Samsung Spinpoint F4 320GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152244 Asus CD/DVD burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 Antec 300 + Antec Neo Eco 520C http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.492901 If you're worried about the CPU bottlenecking performance in some scenarios, you can overclock it. You would want an aftermarket CPU cooler when doing so, and a Hyper 212+ is a favorite option of many for the price: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 edit:+ Show Spoiler [option 2] + If you want to spend up to $750 (with mail-in rebates) to get a better CPU, case, and modular PSU, you can do that as well. A case and PSU can last for more than one computer anyhow, so it could make sense to spend now. You can get the combo above of the i5-760, P55 mobo, and CM 690ii advanced: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.500724 And this GTX 460 1GB + OCZ ModXStream 600W: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.493758 Same RAM, HDD, and optical drive as before. In a worst case scenario for the CPU, here are fps you get, as seen in a benchmark. An i5-760 would be between the listed i5-750 and i7-860 in SC2, and the Phenom II X4 955 would be where the Phenom II X6 1090T is listed. (without considering overclocking) http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,766589/Starcraft-2-CPU-benchmarks-Intel-on-top-quads-without-performance-benefit/Practice/ | ||
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-Simplicity-
United States83 Posts
Thanks for the reply | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/starcraft2-wings-of-liberty_5.html#sect1 http://www.techspot.com/review/305-starcraft2-performance/page7.html http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/starcraft-ii-radeon-geforce,2728-6.html | ||
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blitzkrieger
United States512 Posts
Do mobo's allow you to connect to internet? Or do you need a network card? I assume the former but asking anyway... AHHH my head is asplodin... gonna repost in a min | ||
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