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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14900 Posts
September 20 2010 04:50 GMT
#1561
meh, i've never had any problems with OCZ for rebates, contacting customer service, or getting RMA's for shit
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 05:33:16
September 20 2010 05:29 GMT
#1562
OCZ isn't a bad company, its just they've done something stupid with their DDR3 RAM and a lot aren't good/dead on arrival. Everything else they make is pretty good and their customer service is only as bad as every other typical computer tech company...the RMA process is typically painful with most companies unless we're talking about EVGA or Corsair.
Zero.Tha.Hero
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada155 Posts
September 22 2010 18:17 GMT
#1563
Hi CBR thread. My friend has asked me to build him a baseline gaming rig (tower only) in the seven to eight hundred dollar range. However, I have been out of the hardware market for a few years and I need some reccomendations for maximizing the performance potential without overspending wastefully on overkill components. Parts availability and price guideline are both western canada.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 22 2010 18:42 GMT
#1564
Ended up buying the OCZ 60 GB SSD from Tigerdirect... was same price as Newegg cept I don't have to pay sales tax, and on top of that I randomly googled "tigerdirect coupon codes" and one of them happened to be $5 off for the OCZ 60 GB SDD... what a coincidence! =D.
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
September 22 2010 18:49 GMT
#1565
On September 23 2010 03:42 FabledIntegral wrote:
Ended up buying the OCZ 60 GB SSD from Tigerdirect... was same price as Newegg cept I don't have to pay sales tax, and on top of that I randomly googled "tigerdirect coupon codes" and one of them happened to be $5 off for the OCZ 60 GB SDD... what a coincidence! =D.


I find it amusing that you would google coupons and buy an SSD. It's like buying a sports car and worrying about gas prices.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 22 2010 18:53 GMT
#1566
On September 23 2010 03:49 PaD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 03:42 FabledIntegral wrote:
Ended up buying the OCZ 60 GB SSD from Tigerdirect... was same price as Newegg cept I don't have to pay sales tax, and on top of that I randomly googled "tigerdirect coupon codes" and one of them happened to be $5 off for the OCZ 60 GB SDD... what a coincidence! =D.


I find it amusing that you would google coupons and buy an SSD. It's like buying a sports car and worrying about gas prices.


I got $5 off! =D.

Overall shopping for deals I saved a little over $100 buying my rig instead of just ordering everything straight from newegg.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 22 2010 19:35 GMT
#1567
On September 23 2010 03:17 Zero.Tha.Hero wrote:
Hi CBR thread. My friend has asked me to build him a baseline gaming rig (tower only) in the seven to eight hundred dollar range. However, I have been out of the hardware market for a few years and I need some reccomendations for maximizing the performance potential without overspending wastefully on overkill components. Parts availability and price guideline are both western canada.


I'm always a little hazy on estimating Canadian taxes and shipping costs, but are there local stores where you live? If not, ncix.com should have all the parts you need, and you can take advantage of their price match feature.

For around that much money, you're looking for:
AMD Phenom II X4
Socket AM3 motherboard (USB3 support would be nice)
GTX 460 768MB
2x2 GB DDR3 RAM
400W PSU (a quality 400W is already safe--over 500W is way overkill)
and a HDD, optical drive, and case.

If that's over budget when including taxes and shipping, bringing the CPU down to an Athlon II X3 should fix the problem. The difference should be fairly small for most games, but some games are relatively demanding on the CPU compared to the GPU and vice versa. It depends. Another place to save money would be to downgrade the GTX 460 to a HD 5770, another good price/performance pick.
Zero.Tha.Hero
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada155 Posts
September 22 2010 21:47 GMT
#1568
The retailer i'll be using is called Memory Express, prices all on the website. Also which recent intel core-iX cpu offers comparable performance?
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14900 Posts
September 22 2010 23:08 GMT
#1569
i5-760 with a 1156 mother board
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 23 2010 00:06 GMT
#1570
Yes, i5-750 or i5-760--they're the same except the stock CPU clock speed. However, an i5-7xx and a LGA 1156 motherboard might be some 60 CAD more expensive than the AMD option above, so if you want to stay in budget, you'd need to take a hit elsewhere. All the cheaper core-iX CPUs are dual cores and thus not really comparable. The AMD route is a better value at that price range for gaming, but it's not a huge deal I guess.
Zero.Tha.Hero
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada155 Posts
September 23 2010 12:30 GMT
#1571
thanks guys, so far I've managed to stay in budget with
+ Show Spoiler +

CPU: i5-750
RAM: KVR 2x2gb PC-10600
GPU: Radeon 5770
PSU: Corsair VX 450
HDD: Barracuda 7200.12 500gb

the mobo is proving to be the toughest selection to make, too many LGA1156 mobo on market any reccomendations for a Dual DDR3 1333 board?
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14900 Posts
September 23 2010 13:14 GMT
#1572
Depends on how many features you want for overclocking, usb 3.0, all that jazz
If you want usb and don't want too many extra features which you won't use on your motherboard,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128425&cm_re=gigabyte_p55-_-13-128-425-_-Product
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
September 23 2010 18:07 GMT
#1573
my resolution 1440 x 900
few questions:

how much does the motherboard affect performance? specifically between these two:
Asus M4A78LT-M LE AM3 DDR3 AMD 760G/SB710 Chipset DDR3 mATX w/ Integrated ATI Radeon 3000, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB2.0, SATA-II RAID, 1 Gen2 PCIe, 1 PCIe X1 & 2 PCI

Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD 870/SB850 chipset DDR3 Ultra Durable™3 Socket AM3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 Audio, GBLAN, Support 6-core CPU, CPU Auto Unlocker, USB3.0, SATA-III, ON/OFF Charge for IPod, RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1, & 3 PCI [+30]

the first one is about $30 cheaper, i have no intentions of upgrading

also, does hd matter at all sc2-wise? specifically between these two:
500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD
1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD

Im trying to keep this cheap as hell (<$600) and ive pretty much resigned myself to playing on high at about 60~ fps if possible. this is HUGE upgrade considering im 900~ diamond now after 80 games playing on laptop at low and 30 fps (yeah i mainly cheese, because my computer cant handle anything else)

would this give me what im looking for at 1440x900 resolution?
AMD Athlon™II X2 255 Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
4GB (2GBx2) DDR3/1333MHz Dual Channel Memory
ATI Radeon HD 5670 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card

so basically im just trying to skimp like a hobo on anything that isnt necessary for playing sc2 on high at a decent fps.
any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 24 2010 01:07 GMT
#1574
Hi guys I am looking to build a higher end gaming computer I want it to be very good but it doesn't need to be the fastest in the world or anything. I have very very little computer knowledge so I don't know many specifics but the computer would be used primarily for gaming. I know I want to be able to play games on their highest settings and I want the computer to be very fast in general so that I can multi task between a lot of programs. I also need a very large amount of storage space for the secondary hds.

What is your budget?
Not really sure what I should spend, I don't have a set budget but I would be fine spending 5k as long as there was a noticeable difference in performance. I wouldn't want to spend 500$ upgrading a part and then not be able to see much of a change so if I can spend less for close to the same performance then I will.

What is your resolution?
2560 x 1600

What is your upgrade cycle?
1-2 years

When do you plan on building it?
asap

Do you plan on overclocking?
Not sure

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not sure

Where are you buying your parts from?
I have a frys near but would prefer to buy online

Any advice you guys can give me would be great.

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Ganon-
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada68 Posts
September 24 2010 01:47 GMT
#1575
I was looking to build something under $800 and my friend suggested this:

CPU + Motherboard: http://tinyurl.com/28u34on
Case + Ram: http://tinyurl.com/2fjust3
Hard Drive + Power: http://tinyurl.com/29o2zgn
Video Card: http://tinyurl.com/2cad8d4

I already have other things like Monitor, DVD, etc.

Any comments on if it's good/bad would be appreciated, Thanks!


Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 01:55:27
September 24 2010 01:48 GMT
#1576
Condor Hero: Cheaper mobo is fine. All you lose is maybe some BIOS features, USB 3, expansion slots, etc. They don't make a performance difference in a game. A more expensive mobo doesn't magically make your CPU/GPU execute more instructions in the same amount of time (unless one possibly could support a slightly higher overclock and you were comparing max overclocks). The more expensive HDD would only slightly boost overall file access times--in a game, this just means very slightly faster loading times. So take the cheaper HDD as well.

But at that resolution on high, constant 60 fps with those parts may be a little too much to expect. For a budget build though, those are decent choices. Maybe consider an Athlon II X3 as those are just marginally more expensive than the Athlon II X2 and have significantly better performance in many situations and games (but not that much in SC2 unfortunately).


mig: With an essentially uncapped budget, this is about the edge of what's reasonable of what to get for gaming and general multitasking:

Intel Core i7-870 (or similar i7-8xx)
P55 motherboard (SLI capable)
GTX 470 (2 of them for SLI)
4x2 GB DDR3 RAM (4 GB total is enough for most people, but possibly depending on what kind of "multitasking" you mean, more may possibly help)
128 or 256 GB SSD (Crucial RealSSD or a one with a SandForce-1200 controller)
other HDDs for storage
optical drive
750 W PSU
good cooling case like CM HAF 932

In some applications and games, overclocking the CPU would help, but the CPU is already plenty powerful. It wouldn't hurt to add a nice CPU cooler if you were doing that.

As a caveat, do note that there's a new generation of Intel processors coming in a few months, and new AMD (ATI) GPUs coming before then too. The above might get slightly outdated in a sense, but it's still going to be relevant for a while.

Are you looking for specific parts on newegg or something?


edit: jk87: Are you in Canada? You would need to use newegg.ca, where those deals may not be available. But if you can get those parts ordered from the USA site for whatever reason, those are good values, yes. That's about what I would recommend for that price. The 650W PSU is way overkill, but given the price in the combo, it's reasonable to pay a little extra to get a reliable unit with a 5 year warranty.
Ganon-
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada68 Posts
September 24 2010 02:02 GMT
#1577
My brother lives in the States so he can order for me and I can go pick it up. Alright, thanks for the advice on the power supply
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 02:34:30
September 24 2010 02:25 GMT
#1578
On September 24 2010 10:48 Myrmidon wrote:Condor Hero: Cheaper mobo is fine. All you lose is maybe some BIOS features, USB 3, expansion slots, etc. They don't make a performance difference in a game. A more expensive mobo doesn't magically make your CPU/GPU execute more instructions in the same amount of time (unless one possibly could support a slightly higher overclock and you were comparing max overclocks). The more expensive HDD would only slightly boost overall file access times--in a game, this just means very slightly faster loading times. So take the cheaper HDD as well.

But at that resolution on high, constant 60 fps with those parts may be a little too much to expect. For a budget build though, those are decent choices. Maybe consider an Athlon II X3 as those are just marginally more expensive than the Athlon II X2 and have significantly better performance in many situations and games (but not that much in SC2 unfortunately).


would perhaps a phenom II x2 or athlon II x4 have a significant impact on performance ?
i only ask because im buying off cyberpower and they dont have x3 cores.

or maybe i should just go for a athlon II x4 + ati radeon 5770 to play at ultra

thanks for your help!
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
September 24 2010 02:38 GMT
#1579
Processor: Intel Core i7 950 Quad Core Processor LGA1366 3.06GHZ Bloomfield 8MB LGA1366 4.8GT/S
MOBO: ASUS P6X58D-E X58 ATX LGA1366 3PCI-E16 PCI-E1 2PCI CrossFire SLI USB3.0 SATA 6GB/S Motherboard
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 460 Fermi Superclocked EE 763MHZ 1024MB GDDR5 2XDVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E Video Card -TR
RAM: G.SKILL F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ 6GB DDR3 3X2GB DDR3-1600 CL 9-9-9-24 Triple Channel Memory Kit (i couldn't seem to find any 4GB DDR3-1600 on ncix's canadian website, anyone can link me any that would cost less than those and would be better and compatibility proof pls?)
HSF: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366 LGA775 LGA1156 120MM
HD: Western Digital RE3 320GB 3.5IN SATA 7200RPM 16MB Hard Drive OEM (waiting for SSD prices to drop)
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM
CASE: Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 ATX 9 Drive Bay No PS Top USB2.0 1394 Audio
PSU: which PSU would we need to run this thing? 1000W or 850W or 750W?

anyone would change any parts in this build? (he's buying from ncix.com canadian website :O)

Live it, love it, play it, kill it. JulyZerg and IPXZerg greatest TL.net fan
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 24 2010 03:04 GMT
#1580
@yunholee

here's a list of ddr3 1600mhz memory: http://ncix.com/products/index.php?minorcatid=1303&subminorcatid=475&po=0&ps=2

If you just want 4GB ram, why not just go with the P55 chipset instead of the X58?

You can run all that on 500w. If you plan on adding another card for SLI, go for ~700W.

There are better cases than the antec 900.

If your friend lives in the GTA, have him check out some of the doorcrasher items at the grand opening at scarborough's skycity plaza tomoro (friday). There's also going to be a online sale as well starting tomoro.

Unfortunately, SSD prices won't drop until intel releases their g3 SSDs (sometime in q1 2011).
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