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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
November 19 2011 01:33 GMT
#14901
im upgrading to intel for the first time ever!

2500k + MSI P67A-G43 (B3) for $230 + tax at micro center, such a good deal... some quick questions tho:

is the motherboard good enough for OCing? and i should reinstall my OS after i put in the new board right? I plan on using the same stuff in my case right now:
haf 922
6950 2gb
8gb DDR3 1600
hyper n520
700w corsair
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 19 2011 01:34 GMT
#14902
Yes the G43 is good enough for overclocking and yes you should do a fresh installation of Windows.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
November 19 2011 01:35 GMT
#14903
On November 19 2011 08:40 skyR wrote:
No. X650 for $100 is one of the best options right now for an high end configuration

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139031

Is this what you're talking about?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 19 2011 01:36 GMT
#14904
No, that's a TX650M. I'm talking about the Seasonic X650: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 02:43:13
November 19 2011 02:43 GMT
#14905
How much power does a card in Physx draw, when not in use?

Is it idle power, or does nVidia sleep the card? I just want a loose idea.
twitch.tv/medrea
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
November 19 2011 04:15 GMT
#14906
"Sleeping the card" doesn't exist because its plugged straight in a PCIe slot and directly connected to the PCIe plugs. It will draw as much power as its typical idle load.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
November 19 2011 04:20 GMT
#14907
On November 19 2011 13:15 Womwomwom wrote:
"Sleeping the card" doesn't exist because its plugged straight in a PCIe slot and directly connected to the PCIe plugs. It will draw as much power as its typical idle load.


By sleeping i mean downclocking the card to something like 200 mhz.
twitch.tv/medrea
imJukin
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States47 Posts
November 19 2011 04:26 GMT
#14908
So after a week of deliberation I finally placed my order for my new rig, specs are:

NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146067

Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492

ASUS P9X79 PRO LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with USB BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492

Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226272

SAPPHIRE FleX Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102956

Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442

SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233

XIGMATEK Gaia SD1283 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W (Re using from current computer)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

non build related ordered:

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Rosewill Mechanical Keyboard RK-9000 with Cherry MX Blue Switch
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201040

Logitech G500 10 Buttons Dual-mode Scroll Wheel USB Wired Laser 5700 dpi Gaming Mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104318

Dell UltraSharp U2412M (469-1137) Black 24"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260047


Thanks for your help skyR, I took most recommendations and applied them to the build. Should be here next wednesday or friday (thursday is thanksgiving). I'll let ya know how the assembly goes.

Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 04:36:10
November 19 2011 04:32 GMT
#14909
Yeah and we call that idling. All video cards have power management presets for idle, medium load, and full load or something along these lines. HD5770s idle at 157mhz, when all the user is doing desktopy stuff, for instance.

These downlocking/upclocking driver tricks for power management are actually the reason why AMD card can crash during medium loads like Flash. The clock and memory speeds are incorrect so the drivers don't know what to do. Its also the reason why plugging two different monitors into nVidia cards causes a huge spike in power draw - the cards are tricked into thinking they're running a 3D game and thus are clocked accordingly.

If you want something better, the best thing to do is hope that nVidia brings that Optimus technology to desktops.
ChefStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 07:01:05
November 19 2011 06:57 GMT
#14910
Hello all I am replacing my old vista and hope I could gather some opinions regarding what would be the best choice, money isn't that big of a issue, but I would rather get the best cards for a reasonable price. I will be running crossfire or sli, with the following monitors: 27" Widescreen 1920x1080 and my current 22" 1023x768

The cards I have been looking into are: GTX 570 1.2 GB x2, GTX 570 2.5GB x 2, HD 6950 x2, HD 6970 x2.

I will be using a z68 chipset with sandy bridge i7-2600

Also what are the pros and cons of running two SSD's in raid over one larger SSD.

Why don't we see who is the wizard and play some one on one, I think you'll find me sympathetic to ya when I've won, It seems you've got the brawn to beat me if this was all it takes, But I've got skills to pay the bills and punish each of your mistakes.
Sansai
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria188 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 07:45:06
November 19 2011 07:44 GMT
#14911
On November 19 2011 15:57 ChefStarCraft wrote:
Hello all I am replacing my old vista and hope I could gather some opinions regarding what would be the best choice, money isn't that big of a issue, but I would rather get the best cards for a reasonable price. I will be running crossfire or sli, with the following monitors: 27" Widescreen 1920x1080 and my current 22" 1023x768

The cards I have been looking into are: GTX 570 1.2 GB x2, GTX 570 2.5GB x 2, HD 6950 x2, HD 6970 x2.

I will be using a z68 chipset with sandy bridge i7-2600

Also what are the pros and cons of running two SSD's in raid over one larger SSD.


make sure to get 2600 K, if you also get z68 chipset for overclocking!!

pros: none, maybe more "combined space" or just theoretically more longetivity due to less read/write operations on 1 SSD
cons: performance loss due to crappy raid controller most of the time, get 1 SSD for system/starcraft/etc. and 1 7200rpm HDD for all non-important games, photos, music etc...
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 08:35:54
November 19 2011 08:33 GMT
#14912
On November 19 2011 15:57 ChefStarCraft wrote:
Hello all I am replacing my old vista and hope I could gather some opinions regarding what would be the best choice, money isn't that big of a issue, but I would rather get the best cards for a reasonable price. I will be running crossfire or sli, with the following monitors: 27" Widescreen 1920x1080 and my current 22" 1023x768

The cards I have been looking into are: GTX 570 1.2 GB x2, GTX 570 2.5GB x 2, HD 6950 x2, HD 6970 x2.

I will be using a z68 chipset with sandy bridge i7-2600


Why SLI with a such a small resolution. Also, what happened to that computer you bought with the SLI GTX580s?
ChefStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada350 Posts
November 19 2011 08:35 GMT
#14913
On November 19 2011 17:33 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 15:57 ChefStarCraft wrote:
Hello all I am replacing my old vista and hope I could gather some opinions regarding what would be the best choice, money isn't that big of a issue, but I would rather get the best cards for a reasonable price. I will be running crossfire or sli, with the following monitors: 27" Widescreen 1920x1080 and my current 22" 1023x768

The cards I have been looking into are: GTX 570 1.2 GB x2, GTX 570 2.5GB x 2, HD 6950 x2, HD 6970 x2.

I will be using a z68 chipset with sandy bridge i7-2600


Why SLI with a such a small resolution.


What would you recommend ?
Why don't we see who is the wizard and play some one on one, I think you'll find me sympathetic to ya when I've won, It seems you've got the brawn to beat me if this was all it takes, But I've got skills to pay the bills and punish each of your mistakes.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
November 19 2011 08:36 GMT
#14914
A single GTX560 Ti or HD6950. But what happened to that computer you bought with the SLI GTX580s??
ChefStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada350 Posts
November 19 2011 09:03 GMT
#14915
Simple, I never bought that computer. I was just took a different approach. I have been browsing forums for almost 2 weeks researching parts, thank you for the information.
Why don't we see who is the wizard and play some one on one, I think you'll find me sympathetic to ya when I've won, It seems you've got the brawn to beat me if this was all it takes, But I've got skills to pay the bills and punish each of your mistakes.
kef
Profile Joined September 2010
283 Posts
November 19 2011 16:35 GMT
#14916
Hey guys I just wanted to start off by saying thanks for all the help you gave me earlier on my build. I've got everything together and I'm just waiting on my copy of Windows 7

I did have a question though, when I was building my computer an experienced friend of mine was helping me out and he recommended I get an aftermarket heatsink/fan for my i5 2400, he said that the heatsink/fan that comes with it is really crappy. What's your opinion on this? I have decided that I will overclock sometime in the future so I'm probably gonna get an aftermarket fan anyways, what price range do you guys suggest I should go for with the heatsink?

Also, I asked this probably 30 pages back but if I wanted to get a sound card for gaming with some nice Bose headphones (the same kind day9 uses, actually) what kind of soundcard do you guys suggest?
There are two kinds of people in this world: people who say there are two kinds of people in the world and people who know the first group of people are full of shit.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
November 19 2011 16:48 GMT
#14917
Im pretty sure you are not really overclocking i5 2400.
kef
Profile Joined September 2010
283 Posts
November 19 2011 17:08 GMT
#14918
On November 20 2011 01:48 FinBenton wrote:
Im pretty sure you are not really overclocking i5 2400.


thanks for the input, but what heatsink do you suggest assuming that i dont overclock then?
There are two kinds of people in this world: people who say there are two kinds of people in the world and people who know the first group of people are full of shit.
Sansai
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria188 Posts
November 19 2011 17:11 GMT
#14919
On November 20 2011 02:08 kef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 01:48 FinBenton wrote:
Im pretty sure you are not really overclocking i5 2400.


thanks for the input, but what heatsink do you suggest assuming that i dont overclock then?

EKL Brocken is quite a good deal
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
November 19 2011 17:12 GMT
#14920
On November 20 2011 02:08 kef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 01:48 FinBenton wrote:
Im pretty sure you are not really overclocking i5 2400.


thanks for the input, but what heatsink do you suggest assuming that i dont overclock then?


The stock heatsink/fan is fine if you don't overclock, which you can't with the i5 2400. If you're having heat problems, then either the heatsink isn't mounted properly or the airflow through the case is very poor. But under normal circumstances, there's no need to replace the stock heatsink except if the noise is too high for your taste.
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