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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
November 18 2011 17:29 GMT
#14881
On November 18 2011 23:56 Shikyo wrote:


Power supply's more than enough for either a GTX 560 Ti or a GTX 570 so don't need to worry there.

It says 15A 12V on that photo, that makes it 180W PSU, you need to get a new one sry T_T
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 17:50:30
November 18 2011 17:48 GMT
#14882
On November 19 2011 02:29 FinBenton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 23:56 Shikyo wrote:


Power supply's more than enough for either a GTX 560 Ti or a GTX 570 so don't need to worry there.

It says 15A 12V on that photo, that makes it 180W PSU, you need to get a new one sry T_T

wtf really? that's not even enough for a 550 Ti o_o I thought it was a normal FSP PSU, like my old Acer has a 300w FSP that has 20A on 12V o.O whoops

Of course I would miss that picture -_-

How is that even possible. That can't run a i7 2600 and a 550 Ti.....
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 18:29:02
November 18 2011 17:55 GMT
#14883
At the same price, what is/would you say is better?

ASRock Z68 PRO3 LGA 1155 or MSI P67A-G43 (B3) LGA 1155?
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 17:58:07
November 18 2011 17:57 GMT
#14884
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Intel Core i7-2600 Processor 3.4GHz 8 MB Cache Socket LGA1155

ASRock H61DE/S3 LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard

GIGABYTE GV-R695UD-1GD Radeon HD 6950 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply

Kingston HyperX 12GB Kit (3x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR3 DIMM Desktop Memory (KHX1600C9D3K3/12GX)

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s with NCQ 32MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Bare Drive ST31000524AS

Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium


I'm getting an aftermarket CPU because my room gets VERY hot in the summer.
12 GB of RAM because I found a great deal for it.
I already have a case, the coolermaster storm sniper.

Otherwise, are there any problems with this build? Anything that could be done to make it better or cheaper?

Also, I want to know how much you guys think the price will drop come Black Friday.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
November 18 2011 18:27 GMT
#14885
2500k + Z board would be a better deal.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
November 18 2011 19:07 GMT
#14886
On November 19 2011 03:27 FinBenton wrote:
2500k + Z board would be a better deal.

I'm going to be using photoshop quite a bit, and I don't want to bother with overclocking.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
November 18 2011 19:17 GMT
#14887
On November 19 2011 04:07 Kinetik_Inferno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 03:27 FinBenton wrote:
2500k + Z board would be a better deal.

I'm going to be using photoshop quite a bit, and I don't want to bother with overclocking.

Its 2 clicks to OC to like 4.5Ghz which is A LOT more power than 2600 but ok.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 19:26:26
November 18 2011 19:24 GMT
#14888
On November 19 2011 04:17 FinBenton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 04:07 Kinetik_Inferno wrote:
On November 19 2011 03:27 FinBenton wrote:
2500k + Z board would be a better deal.

I'm going to be using photoshop quite a bit, and I don't want to bother with overclocking.

Its 2 clicks to OC to like 4.5Ghz which is A LOT more power than 2600 but ok.

As I said, my room gets extremely hot in the summer, and the aftermarket HSF will have it's hands full just keeping the components at a reasonable temperature. I can overclock only a little bit without drifting into the danger zone. Because of this, dropping the extra cash for a K suffix won't be worth it imo.
DONTPANIC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States340 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 19:42:54
November 18 2011 19:40 GMT
#14889
On November 19 2011 02:55 beefhamburger wrote:
At the same price, what is/would you say is better?

ASRock Z68 PRO3 LGA 1155 or MSI P67A-G43 (B3) LGA 1155?



MSI P67A-G43 (B3) LGA 1155

I like MSI and it has a nice bios for OC. opinion. Also... gd43 has 8x 8x crossfire if you want it.
The universe is big. Really big.
Urazel
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada10 Posts
November 18 2011 20:46 GMT
#14890
So i got a little bit more money for my build, i was wondering if it would be better to buy a SSD, or if going from an i3 to an i5 would work better for me. I would like to put my OS onto the SSD, so i only need a small one. If i bought one later and went for the i5 now, is there a way without wiping the hard drives to transfer the operating system over to the ssd?
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
November 18 2011 20:53 GMT
#14891
On November 19 2011 05:46 Urazel wrote:
So i got a little bit more money for my build, i was wondering if it would be better to buy a SSD, or if going from an i3 to an i5 would work better for me. I would like to put my OS onto the SSD, so i only need a small one. If i bought one later and went for the i5 now, is there a way without wiping the hard drives to transfer the operating system over to the ssd?


If you would only like to put your OS on the SSD, then your computer will boot very quickly, but you won't be able to fully enjoy the speed of it because your other programs load from the HDD. I suggest putting your OS and primary programs on the SSD and less commonly used programs on the HDD. You don't need a lot of GB to fit the OS and the primary programs on it though. Something like 64 GB would be fine.

Whatever you do, don't buy the SSD from OCZ, their SSDs consistently fail and crash. Buy from reliable brands like Crucial and Samsung.

I don't know anyway to transfer an OS off the top of my head, but there probably is a way.

So yeah, basically buy the SSD now because you will see the most benefit by using that, and it could prove difficult to upgrade to a SSD later.
Urazel
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada10 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 21:13:14
November 18 2011 20:56 GMT
#14892
I suggest putting your OS and primary programs on the SSD and less commonly used programs on the HDD.


Hmm, all i would really use the computer for is internet and gaming, but i switch between games quite a bit, so is a SSD worth it if it would pretty much only benefit my OS? I dont see the point in putting whichever game im playing now onto it then moving it later.

Edit: Main reason i cant decide is because they both seem like they would be a pain to go back and install later. I do plan to get the one i dont buy now at a later time. So i guess im asking which would be easier to setup: #1-Putting in an SSD and transferring my OS to it or #2 switching out my i3 for an i5.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 21:42:16
November 18 2011 21:38 GMT
#14893
On November 19 2011 05:56 Urazel wrote:
Show nested quote +
I suggest putting your OS and primary programs on the SSD and less commonly used programs on the HDD.


Hmm, all i would really use the computer for is internet and gaming, but i switch between games quite a bit, so is a SSD worth it if it would pretty much only benefit my OS? I dont see the point in putting whichever game im playing now onto it then moving it later.


your OS, about 5 medium sized games, and a browser can all fit on a single 64 Gigabyte SSD. If you haven't got room, you can put the OS on the HDD simply because you won't be loading the OS very often.

Stop resisting. The conclusion has been drawn. Put the programs you use most on a SSD, Everything else goes on the HDD. When you get the money, upgrade to i5.

EDIT to respond to edit: I'm not asking you to install anything. When you have a computer with two drives, the OS accesses both drives regardless of which one it is installed on. If you install the OS on Drive C and all your programs are on Drive D, you can launch the programs from the OS.

So if you have the OS and other crap on the Hard drive, and the important stuff is on the SSD, it will basically function as one drive but the stuff allocated on the SSD will load faster.
Urazel
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada10 Posts
November 18 2011 21:44 GMT
#14894
Ok, tyvm for your input. im gunna go with the ssd and pick up an i5 later.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 22:59:56
November 18 2011 22:58 GMT
#14895
On November 19 2011 06:44 Urazel wrote:
Ok, tyvm for your input. im gunna go with the ssd and pick up an i5 later.



I thought you meant install, as in install programs on the SSD whenever you want to use it.

Basically the SSD would be a bitch to install later simply because you would have to transfer all your data. The i3 to i5 would be simple. unscrew the HSF, pop out the i3 chip, pop in the new i5, screw in the HSF, and you're golden. If you want to install the SSD and you didn't include it in your original build, it will be difficult to transfer all that data.

So yeah, good luck with the build, and glad I could help.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
November 18 2011 23:10 GMT
#14896
Btw, is this a good PSU for a higher end build?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 18 2011 23:40 GMT
#14897
No. X650 for $100 is one of the best options right now for an high end configuration
Meekee
Profile Joined August 2010
United States46 Posts
November 18 2011 23:48 GMT
#14898
Hi all, I'm looking for advice about building a new system. Mainly I'm looking for something with a long-tern upgrade window. To this end the main questions I have are:

1. My understanding is that Intel will have a new socket with their new chips, in terms of future upgrades does it make sense to wait so that whatever mobo I get with that socket will last longer?

2. I need something that can perform well with 3-D modeling/rendering/photoshop as well as something that can play current titles at high-ultra settings.

3. I'd like to be able to run 3 monitors for my workstation set-up, but I'm unsure how much a 3rd monitor will affect my performance. (3rd monitor only for work stuff, I'll run 1 monitor for gaming, maybe a second with a browser or itunes on)
So how much extra money or setup do I need to run a third monitor?

What is your budget?
budget is $1500-2000

What is your resolution?
for a workstation I would love to be at 3 monitors running 1920 x 1200 so total 5760x1200
for gaming, I can't afford to support that so I will probably just run 1920x1200

What are you using it for?
I will be using it primarily for work, which is comprised of 3-D modeling and rendering applications (Rhinoceros, Revit, V-Ray, some small animation) followed by Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign to manipulate and present images.
For gaming I'd like to play current games on high to ultra settings for a long shelf life with future games.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I'd like to be able to take whatever system I have and upgrade components in a year or two. So ideally a socket that will be relevant or at least has a potential for solid upgrades. I think I'll probably get a single GPU with this build, but would like to be able to SLI/Crossfire later (so a mobo that supports this is ideal in my mind)

When do you plan on building it?
I'm only in the planning stages at this point, and I'm willing to wait anywhere from 3-6 months if the new intel processors have a socket that will support longer term upgrading.

Do you plan on overclocking?
I definitely would plan on OC'ing the system, maybe upgrading at a later date with water-cooling, but sticking to air-cooled initially at least.

Do you need an Operating System?
I can get win7 from school, so no

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
In the future perhaps, at first I think a single card on the high end would be preferable.

Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg/other internet sitez

thanks in advance for the awesome help in this thread!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 19 2011 00:30 GMT
#14899
The processors coming out next year will be on the same LGA1155 socket. Haswell will be on LGA1150. If you're planning now, I guess you're planning for LGA2011 which will have a entry quad next year, right now only hex cores are available and you'll be upgarding to a octo core when Ivybridge-E is released late next year.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 01:14:04
November 19 2011 01:07 GMT
#14900
MeeKee, you basically want the new platform that just came out (which should support the next gen workstation processors from Intel - and that's about as much future mobo compatibility as you can count on). The GPU is the area where you might want to wait for the next gen GPUs coming out sometime next year. Then again, there's no huge pressing reason to wait as far as I know. Honestly, I dunno how GPU intensive the work you do is.

Essentially:
CPU: i7-3930k
Mobo: x79 something (2011 socket) (ask which board when you're ready to buy)
GPU: probably 560ti or 6950 (1GB version) or something significantly cheaper planning to upgrade fairly soon. Both the 560Ti and 6950 (at least some versions, didn't check if all of them do) have at least three connections for monitors. You might have to use an adapter to deal with different connector types, but it should not be difficult or expensive to run three monitors off one card.
Ram: probably 4x4GB 1600mhz or even more. But don't ask me, ask other people that use your 3D modeling & rendering programs, because more gigabytes of RAM than you need are worthless to you. 8GB is overkill for most people, but I'm assuming you'll need more.
Heatsink: something high-end (~$70 like a noctua D14 or other high-end heatsink, I dunno what all is available for a 2011 socket motherboard. Overclocking the six-core processors produces a lot more heat than a four-core i5 or i7.
PSU: A good one (I dunno, check with someone else.)
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