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Good build. Basically ended up with the same combo myself after going through the site. The 760 combo is quite alot of value compared to the current combos for the Phenom 965.
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Myrmidon: Do you do this for a living, or are you an enthusiast? Or both.
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This is an unbelievably good thread, especially if you can keep it updated. My 2 cents: -1 for Speedfan, it was causing BSOD's on my laptop.
I will be very interested if you can keep this updated with the upcoming Sandy Bridge, GTS 450, Radeon HD 6000 series, AMD Fusion, etc.
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Some recent benches for the GTS450 (note Asus version is OCed):
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4532422&postcount=39
It's priced to be released at $130, which fits between the 5750 ($120) and 5770 ($140).
If you have the extra $40 for a GTX460 at $170, I wouldn't bother with the GTS though.
For the US buyers (sorry everyone else) - there's GTX 460's available at MC for $160 or $170. Ridiculous? Um yes.
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I wouldn't suggest buying the GTS 450 until more benches come out
wouldn't want to jump the gun just because the first GF104 card was good (HD 5830 anyone?)
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Hi,
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll definitely look into each one. Can you specify why I should choose i5 over i7? I'm the type of person that prefers to buy the best at the time, and use it for a long time, instead of upgrading every 1-2 years (two years from now I'll still have the same processor). So even if it's not necessary NOW, wouldn't it be better years from now to have it? I'm much more interested in keeping it useful as it becomes dated than anything (well, with the exception of SC2).
Also, did you recommend those products specifically because htey are "decent" and work well in a combo? In other words, if it wasn't a combo, would you recommend different parts? I'm not going to order from newegg because I've always been able to find much cheaper prices when browsing elsewhere, simply because I live in CA and they charge sales tax.
Really appreciate the time tho!
PS. Can you go more into SSDs and how much of an increase in speed you'll get? It's only 60 GB the one you recommended which isn't very much, so what specifically would I put on it compared to my current 250 GB HD?
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You put an OS, a few important programs, and 2-3 of your games that you're planning at the moment. All of your other files go on your backup HD
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On September 13 2010 06:38 KOFgokuon wrote:
You put an OS, a few important programs, and 2-3 of your games that you're planning at the moment. All of your other files go on your backup HD
Will it access the backup HD slower than previously becaues it's not the "main" one, or will the speed just be the same as currently?
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Your programs will open instantly, anything stored on that SSD will load near instantly, and you will be able to alt tab through programs faster. Faster boot times, faster shut down times, searching for files will be faster (on the SSD). Really anything that involves the HDD.
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On September 13 2010 06:48 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 06:38 KOFgokuon wrote:
You put an OS, a few important programs, and 2-3 of your games that you're planning at the moment. All of your other files go on your backup HD Will it access the backup HD slower than previously becaues it's not the "main" one, or will the speed just be the same as currently?
Here is a visual demonstration of a SSD disk in action. Judge for yourself :-)
The access time for your backup drive will be the same as if you had a normal HD as your "main" one. They use the same channels anyway. So, yes, it will be the same as currently.
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On September 13 2010 03:04 FragKrag wrote:
I wouldn't suggest buying the GTS 450 until more benches come out
I agree with this :-)
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On September 13 2010 06:08 FabledIntegral wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi, Thanks for the suggestions, I'll definitely look into each one. Can you specify why I should choose i5 over i7? I'm the type of person that prefers to buy the best at the time, and use it for a long time, instead of upgrading every 1-2 years (two years from now I'll still have the same processor). So even if it's not necessary NOW, wouldn't it be better years from now to have it? I'm much more interested in keeping it useful as it becomes dated than anything (well, with the exception of SC2). Also, did you recommend those products specifically because htey are "decent" and work well in a combo? In other words, if it wasn't a combo, would you recommend different parts? I'm not going to order from newegg because I've always been able to find much cheaper prices when browsing elsewhere, simply because I live in CA and they charge sales tax. Really appreciate the time tho! PS. Can you go more into SSDs and how much of an increase in speed you'll get? It's only 60 GB the one you recommended which isn't very much, so what specifically would I put on it compared to my current 250 GB HD?
The i7 won't fit within your budget, because not only are the CPUs more expensive than i5, the motherboards need to be of the 1366 socket and are also more expensive than socket 1156 motherboards. Check this out on Newegg (for reference) and you will know what I mean pretty quickly. Of course it would be BETTER. But you pay a lot more, and the i5 will fulfill your needs easily now and years into the future.
The products recommended by myrmidon are practically the same ones I would recommend, combo or no combo. Due to the rather odd nature of Intel chipsets, it doesn't really make much of a difference which motherboard you choose. This one had USB3 which is a great bonus. The i5 model he suggested is the best one if I recall correctly (i.e. highest clock speed).
Regarding SSDs your questions have been answered above 
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Yeah those reviews confirm the XS numbers, and my original stance doesn't change. For a small $40 premium, the GTX460 is just a far better value. The GF106 is a value chip that makes too many concessions for normal resolutions (1680x1050 or higher) and it gets far worse once AA is applied. Now if for some reason you like gaming at lower, more CPU-limited resolutions, then the GF106 limitations aren't really as visible.
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I would wait for Anandtech's bench if you are interested in SC2. I believe AnandTech is the only website that actually benches cards in SC2
Anand #1
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oh wow they must have added it since the GTX 460 since I never remembered it being there before :O
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GTS 450 is really not that impressive. You can find a used GTX 260 for 120-130$, which will show comparable performance.
The only savings will be in the form of power consumption.
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No reason to buy the GTX 260 for $120-130 tbh
The GTS 450 will be sufficient in most circumstances, and have hte benefit of lower power consumption, temperature, and more overclocking headroom (which will close the difference)
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