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On September 09 2010 04:40 IPS.ZeRo wrote:
What do you guys think, will there be huge price drops in the next few months because of the new amd and intel processors? Or will the new processors just be very expensive and the prices of the usual i5-760 and so on will be almost the same?
Certain retailers might have sales to get rid of stock. But once a processor is no longer being made, Intel will not drop its price. Just look at past examples such as the E6x00 being replaced by the E8x00, the E6x00 remained the same price. The core i7 920 being replaced by the 930, newegg is sold out of the 920 and at other retailers, the 920 remains the same price and sometimes is even more expensive than the newer part.
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dl2agon: The video card would have a trouble on high resolutions and top graphics settings, but it should be rock solid overall on high (medium maybe) settings. The PSU is overkill, though it's a good unit that might last for a future multi-GPU build way down the line with a new mobo, CPU, etc.
gm.tOSS: All the PCI-E 1.0, 2.0, 2.1, and upcoming 3.0 are compatible. 2.1 vs. 2.0 is just a small difference in management and support features--the data rate is the same. Overall the build is pretty well-balanced.
Unless you're running over two graphics cards or have specific applications in mind, I'm not convinced that you really need to go with i7-9xx and an X58 platform. I think a P55 mobo and an i7-875K should be great, including for nice overclocks. The Lynnfield i7's are also hyper-threaded. Also, considering how powerful the GPU is, you might as well get an aftermarket CPU cooler and overclock the CPU to keep up.
Here is a review of many current SSDs. A lot of models are pretty decent these days. One of those SandForce SF-1200 drives like the OCZ Vertex 2 should be good.
Even with crazy overclocks on an i7 and an HD 5970, you don't need 1000W. If you really like the 7 year warranty, an 750HX should still be way plenty and very reliable. But if you're thinking about adding a second HD 5970 somewhere down the line (overkill maybe? nah), the 1000HX might be what you're looking for.
I'm not up to date on high-end cases, but you can always turn off the LEDs if the fans are lighted. A nice case is a Cooler Master HAF 932, but I think you should do the research. Some of those sideways-mobo mounted cases look pretty nice and functional. Keep in mind that the HD 5970 is really really long. Also, you might want a case with a internal 3.5" (normal desktop size HDD) to 2.5" (normal SSD size) adapter or a 2.5" internal bay. Or you'd want to get an adapter separately so you can install your SSD inside.
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hi I was wondering how much does it normally cost for shipping when you order from newegg? are the prices they give you for single items still pretty accurate or does the price go down a decent amount when you order a full computer because they ship it all in 1-2 boxes instead of 5+?
and was wondering what you guys thought of the $400 build from http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-pc-build-a-pc-overclock,review-31989.html
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On September 09 2010 08:25 zekie wrote:hi I was wondering how much does it normally cost for shipping when you order from newegg? are the prices they give you for single items still pretty accurate or does the price go down a decent amount when you order a full computer because they ship it all in 1-2 boxes instead of 5+? and was wondering what you guys thought of the $400 build from http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-pc-build-a-pc-overclock,review-31989.html
i don't have experience with newegg since i live in germany, but usually the shipping will be a lot cheaper. Thats why you don't search for the cheapest site for every item but only one or two sites for everything, to minimize shipping costs.
To the build from tomshardware: Case and optical drive don't matter too much for a budget build so those will be fine. The cpu and mainboard are also very good for their price. The western digital caviar blue is a great hd, but you have to know yourself if 250gb is enough, but it probably is.
For windows 7 and smooth usage you should invest into 4gb of memory instead of 2, it will make a difference if you have multiple applications running.
The 5670 is not the fastest card, but i guess with a $400 build you can't really do much better than that.
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Thanks for the advice.
Currently I am having trouble to find the best RAM for my rig - according to msi:
• Supports six unbuffered DIMM of 1.5 Volt DDR3 1066/1333*/1600*/1800*/2000*/2133* (OC) DRAM, 24GB Max
- Supports 1GB/ 2GB/ 4GB DRAM size
- Supports x8 / x16 data lines per DIMM
- Supports up to 3 channel mode
Problem is mostly finding RAM with only which only eats 1.5V - should I get another Board or ... ???
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There are many RAM kits that are 1.5v and even lower than that. What site are you using? I can help look.
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German sites ^^ (hardwareversand.de, geizhals.at, alternate.de, ...)
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Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB on sale for $58
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price at newegg is $75
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On September 09 2010 14:55 gm.tOSS wrote:
Thanks for the advice.
Currently I am having trouble to find the best RAM for my rig - according to msi:
• Supports six unbuffered DIMM of 1.5 Volt DDR3 1066/1333*/1600*/1800*/2000*/2133* (OC) DRAM, 24GB Max
- Supports 1GB/ 2GB/ 4GB DRAM size
- Supports x8 / x16 data lines per DIMM
- Supports up to 3 channel mode
Problem is mostly finding RAM with only which only eats 1.5V - should I get another Board or ... ???
I don't think a high quality motherboard should have any voltage restrictions on the RAM.it should run every RAM just fine.
though if you really are concerned then I suggest you get a G.Skill RAM.they have plenty of products available at that voltage regulation.you should be able to find a decent RAM from those.
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On September 09 2010 17:11 BloodDrunK wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2010 14:55 gm.tOSS wrote:
Thanks for the advice.
Currently I am having trouble to find the best RAM for my rig - according to msi:
• Supports six unbuffered DIMM of 1.5 Volt DDR3 1066/1333*/1600*/1800*/2000*/2133* (OC) DRAM, 24GB Max
- Supports 1GB/ 2GB/ 4GB DRAM size
- Supports x8 / x16 data lines per DIMM
- Supports up to 3 channel mode
Problem is mostly finding RAM with only which only eats 1.5V - should I get another Board or ... ??? I don't think a high quality motherboard should have any voltage restrictions on the RAM.it should run every RAM just fine. though if you really are concerned then I suggest you get a G.Skill RAM.they have plenty of products available at that voltage regulation.you should be able to find a decent RAM from those.
Actually I just read up on it a bit in the speccs of the board. This baord supports APS:
APS (Active Phase Switching)
• APS is Active Phase Switching is complete function to Control Power Demand With Switcing Dynamically, it’s for CPU, Memory and Chipset PWM.
• Saving Power under Variable Loading.
• Power Usage More Efficiency.
So this means i can adjust it up to 1.65V or 1.9V even right? If I do this, could this cause any Problems for other parts?
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There is exactly nothing wrong with those. It's just that another poster suggested to buy some RAM with a higher tact frequency (these are 1333MHz and he was talking 1800 / 2000 / +) and I was confused if they work with the board and so on.
Thanks for helping out.
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hi everybody, I have a friend that has http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103882&Tpk=amd athlon ii 635 quad core that mobo and sadly he knows less about computers than I do. He wants to overclock it but he just has a basic computer from a big store so I'm not sure how the cooling or anything is.
I have a couple questions about overclocking.
does it increase the temperature by a lot?
is this mobo good for overclocking?
do any other computer parts come into effect while overclocking?
is it safe for a newb to overclock?
is it worth overclocking this mobo since hes mostly going to be playing SC2 and this beats the specs easily?
how do you overclock? 
how do you watch your temps?
its a HP. how do i unlock the settings if they're locked?
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On September 09 2010 23:00 zekie wrote:hi everybody, I have a friend that has http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103882&Tpk=amd athlon ii 635 quad core that mobo and sadly he knows less about computers than I do. He wants to overclock it but he just has a basic computer from a big store so I'm not sure how the cooling or anything is. I have a couple questions about overclocking. does it increase the temperature by a lot? is this mobo good for overclocking? do any other computer parts come into effect while overclocking? is it safe for a newb to overclock? is it worth overclocking this mobo since hes mostly going to be playing SC2 and this beats the specs easily? how do you overclock? how do you watch your temps? its a HP. how do i unlock the settings if they're locked?
-It depends on by how much you overclock. If you want a visible increase in performance, overclocking does increase temperatures by a fair bit. If you want to get anywhere you will usually want a proper heatsink rather than the stock one.
-Thats a CPU you linked to, not a mobo. Its probably not going to be easy to overclock as its not a Black Edition CPU.
-Depends. If you overclock using the base clock speed, then your RAM will be affected too. If you have a Black Edition AMD processor, it will have an unlocked multiplier, allowing you to overclock that way. Not too sure which intel processors have an unlocked multiplier.
-If you research is properly, and don't immediately go to the BIOS its usually pretty safe. I wouldn't go messing with the volages unless you know what you are doing, cos that can kill your computer.
-Just for playing SC2, you probably don't need to.
-In general you use the BIOS to overclock. You can get programs to do it for you , like Easy Tune or something. These wouldn't give you as much performance as doing it yourself though.
-Core Temp is just one of the many many programs you can use to check temperatures.
-Don't think you can unlock the settings if its a prebuilt computer.
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On September 09 2010 23:57 deconduo wrote:
-It depends on by how much you overclock. If you want a visible increase in performance, overclocking does increase temperatures by a fair bit. If you want to get anywhere you will usually want a proper heatsink rather than the stock one. 1055T and 1090T can both hit 4.0 GHz stable with stock, and people have gotten the 1090T to 4.4 GHz on air
On September 09 2010 23:57 deconduo wrote:
-Depends. If you overclock using the base clock speed, then your RAM will be affected too. If you have a Black Edition AMD processor, it will have an unlocked multiplier, allowing you to overclock that way. Not too sure which intel processors have an unlocked multiplier. i5-655K and i7-875K. All Extremes are unlocked IIRC. Also, if you're good at soldering, you can bridge a couple pins on the CPU itself to unlock.
On September 09 2010 23:57 deconduo wrote:
-If you research is properly, and don't immediately go to the BIOS its usually pretty safe. I wouldn't go messing with the volages unless you know what you are doing, cos that can kill your computer. Super mega ditto. Incorrect voltages can instantly kill your CPU (and void its warranty as well).
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Is there any different between building an Intel computer and an AMD computer? can I just plug everything in the motherboard, then plug the mobo into the case and connect the power supply cables and enjoy? or are there any additional tasks?
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Guys sorry a little off topic here, my computer suddenly crashed, tried booting it up again but no response at all, the monitor just indicates no signal. Tried tightening the ram and gfx card but still to no avail.
What do I do from here?
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What are your computer specs? Processor/motherboard/graphics card/RAM/power supply
It may be that your PSU broke, but someone else should help.
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So I don't really understand all the differences between the ungodly different amount of variants of essentially the same product. What I do know is that I'm looking to spend around $900 building my own computer.
Processor: Intel i7 @ ~$300
Motherboard: ?? (No idea! Just want a quality one, willing to pay a little extra for a better one)
RAM: 6 GB (no idea price!)
Video Card: NVIDIA GTX 460 or 465 (initially wanted one of the Radeon 5000 series but heard it has issues with SC2 from multiple people, and I would rather have a little less performance in ALL other games if SC2 ran a little smoother) @ ~$250
Power Supply: I have a 750w already in my dell xps 700 but looking up threads online apparently it isn't a high quality one... won't effective support certain other stuff, so I guess I would need a new one?
Sound Card: Don't need one
Hard drive: Just going to reformat one I already have
Case: Preferably midsize tower
Operating System: Already have a copy to be provided, Windows 7 64-bit
So I'm already at ~$550 with just the gfx card and processor, leaving me only $350 for the power supply, mobo, RAM, case... if need be I will spend an extra $100, preferably not, but I wouldn't go crazy if I did. Is it possible? Or should I downgrade to an i5? Also reading reviews on newegg sounds like I should also purchase an extra fan... no idea how much those ones cost.
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If you're not looking to do anything more than gaming an i5 750 is more than enough. Since you seem decided on what processor you want I'll ignore my own advice. I assume you want an i7 from the 9** series, since you want 6gb of RAM for triple channel. That will make your motherboard cost more (150-300 range). If you go i7 8** series or i5 7** series, the motherboard will be cheaper around 100-140 since it uses a different kind of motherboard.
Can you give me the details of your PSU? Brand, item number, +12v amperage, etc. It might still be enough to be usable.
465 is bad. 460 is definitely the card you want. What is your resolution that you will be playing at?
Do you want a case with blue/red LEDs or none? If you don't like the lights there are ways to disable them.
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