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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Munk-E
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States672 Posts
October 04 2011 03:07 GMT
#12501
On October 04 2011 12:02 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 11:59 Munk-E wrote:
On October 04 2011 11:52 Medrea wrote:
On October 04 2011 11:50 Munk-E wrote:
So I think i should get a x16 x4 since i'm on a tight budget, which one should I get? The pervious one suggested had a lot of complaints.


What resolution are you running at. I posted a graph up above that shows exactly what the situation is.

1920x1080


Then is:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Worth 25 dollars to you? Maybe, but you aren't even Crossfiring at the moment right? Your call, there is no wrong answer really. Its not like you bought some 300 dollar monster motherboard.

As much as i'd like it, I'm on a tight budget, so no it's not. Do you know of any decent motherboards that are kind of cheap that does x16 x4?
You recognise me because of my signature!
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 04 2011 03:14 GMT
#12502
On October 04 2011 12:07 Munk-E wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:02 Medrea wrote:
On October 04 2011 11:59 Munk-E wrote:
On October 04 2011 11:52 Medrea wrote:
On October 04 2011 11:50 Munk-E wrote:
So I think i should get a x16 x4 since i'm on a tight budget, which one should I get? The pervious one suggested had a lot of complaints.


What resolution are you running at. I posted a graph up above that shows exactly what the situation is.

1920x1080


Then is:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Worth 25 dollars to you? Maybe, but you aren't even Crossfiring at the moment right? Your call, there is no wrong answer really. Its not like you bought some 300 dollar monster motherboard.

As much as i'd like it, I'm on a tight budget, so no it's not. Do you know of any decent motherboards that are kind of cheap that does x16 x4?


The $90 one listed. The x16 x4 vs x8 x8 is entirely dependent on the motherboard, prices will vary, and sometimes the better price will be the better performance, sometimes not. The debate was very specifically between two motherboards.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 03:16:22
October 04 2011 03:14 GMT
#12503
On October 04 2011 12:07 Munk-E wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:02 Medrea wrote:
On October 04 2011 11:59 Munk-E wrote:
On October 04 2011 11:52 Medrea wrote:
On October 04 2011 11:50 Munk-E wrote:
So I think i should get a x16 x4 since i'm on a tight budget, which one should I get? The pervious one suggested had a lot of complaints.


What resolution are you running at. I posted a graph up above that shows exactly what the situation is.

1920x1080


Then is:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Worth 25 dollars to you? Maybe, but you aren't even Crossfiring at the moment right? Your call, there is no wrong answer really. Its not like you bought some 300 dollar monster motherboard.

As much as i'd like it, I'm on a tight budget, so no it's not. Do you know of any decent motherboards that are kind of cheap that does x16 x4?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157249

Thats my motherboard of choice i guess since I have like, 24 of these. But watch out, they have zero onboard lights for error checking or anything like that.

One of the major reasons I chose this board is because the PCI-e slots are placed well. If I were to be just crossfiring, the two cards have some room between eachother whereas in many other setups one card is riding right behind the other one.

I can use the minislots for more cards as well since they are behind the full lanes but, thats another story completely.
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JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
October 04 2011 03:28 GMT
#12504
Anyone have a Corsair 600t case? I'm having trouble figuring how to connect the fans to the fan controller
Lith
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada39 Posts
October 04 2011 03:34 GMT
#12505
Can anyone explain the new GPUs in somewhat lamen terms? It seems as if there are SO many, and it is very hard differentiating what seperates them from one another.

Thanks!
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 04 2011 03:36 GMT
#12506
On October 04 2011 12:34 Lith wrote:
Can anyone explain the new GPUs in somewhat lamen terms? It seems as if there are SO many, and it is very hard differentiating what seperates them from one another.

Thanks!


http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU11/188

There are two major competitors each with different price/performance values and whatnot. What bout them needs explaining?
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xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
October 04 2011 03:39 GMT
#12507
MSI P67S-C43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130576

is this a viable board with an i5-2500K? I asked 4 pages ago but no response yet (
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 04:18:52
October 04 2011 04:18 GMT
#12508
On October 04 2011 12:39 xeo1 wrote:
MSI P67S-C43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130576

is this a viable board with an i5-2500K? I asked 4 pages ago but no response yet (


edit: wait this post is from the past whoops lol, but anyway...still stands
On October 04 2011 09:32 skyR wrote:
C43 is not a good board, we've already been through this.


Also this is the P67S-C43. The "normal" model is the P67A-C43, which is more expensive and has USB3 and maybe some other features as well. I'd need to check. It's not particularly a good motherboard in general and for overclocking (which I assume is why you'd get a i5-2500k).

If you can afford it, AsRock Z68 Pro3 is better, at $105:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157251
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 04 2011 04:22 GMT
#12509
For some reason MSI motherboards arent very good. I forget why though. But I remember it being a good reason.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 04 2011 04:25 GMT
#12510
On October 04 2011 13:22 Medrea wrote:
For some reason MSI motherboards arent very good. I forget why though. But I remember it being a good reason.


Wasn't that an AM3 issue? Something to do with boards going all melty and shit? Or am I thinking of something else?

I'm a fan of either Asus or Asrock. EVGA was good for high end, but since their new motherboard team, they seem to have lost some of the common sense, although build quality and support shouldn't be changed.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 04 2011 04:33 GMT
#12511
On October 04 2011 13:25 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 13:22 Medrea wrote:
For some reason MSI motherboards arent very good. I forget why though. But I remember it being a good reason.


Wasn't that an AM3 issue? Something to do with boards going all melty and shit? Or am I thinking of something else?

I'm a fan of either Asus or Asrock. EVGA was good for high end, but since their new motherboard team, they seem to have lost some of the common sense, although build quality and support shouldn't be changed.


I thought it was just because they were bad at overclocking in general.

Its a shame too because I like MSI video cards. Many of which run cooler than the CPU they are teamed with, which is always impressive.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 04 2011 04:45 GMT
#12512
On October 04 2011 13:33 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 13:25 JingleHell wrote:
On October 04 2011 13:22 Medrea wrote:
For some reason MSI motherboards arent very good. I forget why though. But I remember it being a good reason.


Wasn't that an AM3 issue? Something to do with boards going all melty and shit? Or am I thinking of something else?

I'm a fan of either Asus or Asrock. EVGA was good for high end, but since their new motherboard team, they seem to have lost some of the common sense, although build quality and support shouldn't be changed.


I thought it was just because they were bad at overclocking in general.

Its a shame too because I like MSI video cards. Many of which run cooler than the CPU they are teamed with, which is always impressive.


IDK about MSI for OCing, but I know Gigabyte will make your soul bleed with the BIOS.

Oh, and to qualify my earlier statement: I personally love EVGA boards, and the brand in general. But objectively, the new motherboard team has their work cut out to be as good as the old.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
October 04 2011 04:53 GMT
#12513
yeah the am3 msi boards had xtreme vrm fireworks lol.

the new boards seem fine though
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 04 2011 05:12 GMT
#12514
On October 04 2011 13:53 Legatus Lanius wrote:
yeah the am3 msi boards had xtreme vrm fireworks lol.

the new boards seem fine though


Exploding motherboards... guess they aren't kidding about those military grade components.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 04 2011 05:16 GMT
#12515
On October 04 2011 14:12 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 13:53 Legatus Lanius wrote:
yeah the am3 msi boards had xtreme vrm fireworks lol.

the new boards seem fine though


Exploding motherboards... guess they aren't kidding about those military grade components.


Heh. I don't even know what they mean by that to be honest. Pretty sure its just fluff language to attract all the call of duty nerds.
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 06:03:13
October 04 2011 05:59 GMT
#12516
There are various (many many) mil specs requiring certain tolerances to be met. Not just military but many other organizations of course.

http://www.everyspec.com/MIL-SPECS/MIL SPECS (MIL-T)/
http://www.logwell.com/tech/components/mil_spec_resistors.html

e.g. see under "type" it says military, or displays certain spec compliances
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vishay/RN50C2430FRE6/?qs=Csh1dx8MG/Wv/Dv7Z%2bR/Yg==
http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=3270883

Doesn't mean the circuit is any good though. You can build a turd out of mil-spec (even ignoring which spec) components and it will still be a turd. More specifically, let's say that you have a VRM that is built out of high quality components, but current limits at operating voltages and temperatures mean a limit of about 120W power handling. It's still going to be dangerous to use 140W processors.

A lot of times in a lot of circuits, (certain) component tolerances are not even that important. Though certainly it won't hurt to get something rated for higher temperatures if it's going to be running hot. But it's better to just build something that works better than to pick certain nice-sounding components. What you want is something specified sufficiently where it counts.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
October 04 2011 06:24 GMT
#12517
On October 04 2011 13:18 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:39 xeo1 wrote:
MSI P67S-C43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130576

is this a viable board with an i5-2500K? I asked 4 pages ago but no response yet (


edit: wait this post is from the past whoops lol, but anyway...still stands
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 09:32 skyR wrote:
C43 is not a good board, we've already been through this.


Also this is the P67S-C43. The "normal" model is the P67A-C43, which is more expensive and has USB3 and maybe some other features as well. I'd need to check. It's not particularly a good motherboard in general and for overclocking (which I assume is why you'd get a i5-2500k).

If you can afford it, AsRock Z68 Pro3 is better, at $105:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157251


kk thx, ill go with the asrock
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 06:55:22
October 04 2011 06:41 GMT
#12518
Its late and maybe im not thinking right. Whats the easiest way to find out the actual wattage consumption under load for a 6970.

Friend of mine thinks he needs a 1200W for quad 6970's and Im saying he probably only needs like 1100W or maybe 1000

EDIT: Holy shit its late. You know Im tired when Im wondering what arbitrary number they put at the end of there PSU I should look for.

I figured the card uses about 250W under load so that means about 83amps across all of the rails.

EDIT: Just checking to make sure. If I have a power supply that supplies 34A across each of 4 Virtual rails. I can load 34A on every rail right?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 04 2011 06:57 GMT
#12519
A 6970 has power requirements similar to that of a GTX 570 so about 220-240w under load.

And no, having four 12v rails rated at 34a each does not mean you can have a 136a.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 04 2011 07:00 GMT
#12520
On October 04 2011 15:57 skyR wrote:
A 6970 has power requirements similar to that of a GTX 570 so about 220-240w under load.

And no, having four 12v rails rated at 34a each does not mean you can have a 136a.


What does it mean then. How much do I have?
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