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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
For your intended use including streaming, video editing, and so on, upcoming AMD Bulldozer actually might be a good fit for you, depending on how that turns out. I'd wait for Black Friday / Cyber Monday / whatever post-Thanksgiving sales, if you plan to sit it out for a while. | ||
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SpriteLove
United States226 Posts
$900-$1000 What is your resolution? 1920x1080 What are you using it for? Gaming (sc2, Diablo 3 and Battlefield 3 when they come out) a lot of photoshop What is your upgrade cycle? 2-3 years When do you plan on building it? asap Do you plan on overclocking? Not unless its needed. Do you need an Operating System? Yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
I guess you can add in an SSD if you want to: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147062 Not much to do with such a large budget if you're not going to be overclocking. Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $75 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 Corsair 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $49 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233192 Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti @ $235 ($205 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363 XFX Core Edition 450W @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $60 ($50 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 DVD Burner @ $19 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 | ||
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hellgoat
Sweden30 Posts
I'm an avid reader of this threat, so hopefully I've picked up something worthwhile all this time. The idea is to OC the 2500k to a mere 4,5, which I think this build is capable of. I've never used an Asrock MB before, but they come frequently recommended here, so I thought I'd give it a shot. The only thing missing is a PSU, an area where I'm very lost, so some help with that would be appreciated. ASRock P67 Pro3 REV B3 Corsair 8GB (2x4096MB) CL9 1600Mhz XMS3 Intel Core i5 2500K Noctua NH-U12P SE2 Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti OC 1GB (Campaign on it, making it their cheapest 560 Ti) Fractal Design Define R3, Titanium So that's it. I'm salvaging HDD, SDD and optical drive from my old computer. Here is a link to the available PSUs sorted by price. I had my eye on the XFX Core Edition 450W, will that be enough? Also, my Cooler seems a little pricey, but I don't really know enough about PSU Coolers to really pick another. Here is a link to the available coolers, sorted by price. If you guys see a cheaper alternative capable of what I'm asking for, that'd be great. Well this became a long post. Hopefully someone has the energy to go through it all <3 thanks a bunch. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
I wouldn't get that Noctua heatsink because its absurdly expensive and Noctua fans, while quiet, aren't the best sounding. From that store, by far the best budget option is the Zalman CNPS10X Performa as it performs solidly as well as doesn't employ direct touch heatpipes that many cheaper heatsinks tend to use, which will aid in installation. | ||
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ataryens
Iran213 Posts
"Enclose the original UPC (see above) cut away from module packaging." Not sure what that is and if I can get it now. Other than reading the Mobo manual, what else can i do to prepare? Thx | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Best way to prepare is just watch videos. + Show Spoiler + Hardest part is probably going to be the front panel headers =\ | ||
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hellgoat
Sweden30 Posts
On August 07 2011 22:40 Womwomwom wrote: The parts you've selected are fine. The XFX Core 450W is a good power supply and you shouldn't have any problems so long you don't install a billion hard disks. I wouldn't get that Noctua heatsink because its absurdly expensive and Noctua fans, while quiet, aren't the best sounding. From that store, by far the best budget option is the Zalman CNPS10X Performa as it performs solidly as well as doesn't employ direct touch heatpipes that many cheaper heatsinks tend to use, which will aid in installation. Thanks. The issue though is they don't currently have the Zalman CNPS10X Performa in stock. Only the coolers marked with the green symbol is in stock. I was going to place the order tonight, so would you happen to have another suggestion? | ||
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AresHero
United States39 Posts
Case 1 x Rosewill CRUISER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Side Panel Window and Four Fans @ $64.99 CPU 1 x Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz @ $314.99 Motherboard 1 x GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD40B3 LGA 1155 Intel z68 SATA 6GB/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard @ 159.99 HDD/SSD 1 x Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s @ $89.99 1 x OCZ Vertex 2 90GB SATA II MLC @ $164.99 GPU 2 x GIGABYTE Ultra Durable VGA Series 1GD Radeon HD 6850 1GB @169.99 each Power Supply 1 x Roswill Xtreme Series RX850-S-B 850W Continuous @40°C ,80 PLUS Certified @ 99.99 RAM 1 x G.SKILL Ripjaw Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 @ 124.99 Heat Sink 1 x ZALMAN CNPS10X Performa 120mm Long Life CPU Cooler @ $40.24 Disk Drive 1 x ASUS Black Blu-ray Drive SATA Model @ $68.99 Other Stuff 1 x HIS CrossFire Bridge Interconnnect Cable Model HCFBC4065 @ $ 10.99 1 x Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM @ $ 11.98 The total comes to a little over $1500 with shipping. Any suggestions on components you would get instead and are there any problems with this build? Edit: I should note I don't need an OS, keyboard, mouse, speakers, or monitor(s) | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Why CrossfireX a mediocre card? A single Radeon HD6850 is enough to play Starcraft II on maxed settings and graphics processing power has nothing to do with streaming. CrossfireX bridges are also included with the cards so there's no need to purchase one when you're going to have two already. So unless you plan on doing Eyefinity, there's little point in doing a CrossfireX configuration. You're getting a 90GB SSD, why waste money on an expensive 7200 RPM. Do you even know if you benefit from spending an extra $30 on a Caviar Black over a Samsung Spinpoint F3 or Caviar Blue? If you can't answer this than it's a waste of money. If storage was your plan than why not just get a slower RPM drive such as a Caviar Green? 16GB? What can you possibly use this for besides ram disk and heavy editing? Not to mention the negligible difference between 1600MHz and 1333MHz. Why spend extra on memory for negligible gains when you can spend it on the graphics card for bigger gains? A mediocre 850w power supply? This sort of configuration won't even stress a 650w power supply. Tomshardware is also quite terrible, probably one of the worst tech websites available. It didn't seem like you did enough research or the community there gave you terrible advice / recommendations (sort of expected). | ||
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ataryens
Iran213 Posts
Case Dont know CPU I think its good since u want to stream hd Motherboard Should work, not sure if its best bang for bucks HDD 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 or Caviar Blue would be better since you have an SSD SSD Why are you going with an SATA2 with performance in high 200s? Id suggest a SATA3 as your mobo can support it. GPU I suggest a 6870 or 560Ti for your needs (guessing u game on one monitor?) Power Supply SkyR's replay RAM why do you need 16 Gb? you can live with 4 but its fine to get 8 (under 50$) Heat Sink Dont know Disk Drive Dont know (but do u need blueray?) I know you dont want to cheap out buying a computer but I did research for 3 months (bought yesterday) and the 2nd best advice i can give u is that its better to spend less but more often. ( example, its better to spend 1000$ three times than to spend 1500$ twice in lets say 6 or 9 years, on top of it your configuration isnt "worth" 1500$ as it is not optimised ) The best advice is that you take the time to fill up the thing i told u yesterday and SkyR or someone else will give you a build from newegg (if u can build it yourself) or ncix (if u want it built). | ||
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CuraOh
Chile81 Posts
so you can put this and gain 500GB Seagate Barracuda Green 1.5TB 5900 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148725 $64.99 and save $25 is way over kill have 16gb only but if wou want to use 8 or 16 just buy 2X G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426 $54.99 that save $15 more 1600MHz memory also provides little benefits over 1333MHz http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3 , http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377 , http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html you power supply is not the best choice this is better and less expansive also with MIR $20 XFX Core Edition PRO650W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207014 $89.99 save $10 your ssd also is a poor choose use this is bigger better and faster also sata 3 wiht MIR $20 OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227706 $249.99 and the gpu the same of that ataryens and skyR says you dont need 6850 crossfire for only play sc2 | ||
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Blindo
United States102 Posts
500-700$ What is your resolution? This is extremely important especially for a gaming machine. I see people all the time asking for a video card recommendation and 5 people reply "5850" and the person hasn't even given their gaming resolution; it turns out the person games at 1280x1024 and could have ended up wasting $200 on a card that is total and complete overkill for his resolution. What are you using it for? Mostly gaming, I have a laptop for school. I'd primarily like to play Starcraft 2/Diablo 3/The Witcher, and other new games with reasonably high settings. What is your upgrade cycle? 2 Years When do you plan on building it? Anytime before December. I'm able to buy the parts and build it now, but I'm happy to wait a few months in order to get decent deals. If I could save maybe a 100$ or so I'd be willing to wait till the end of the year. Do you plan on overclocking? No. Do you need an Operating System? No, I can get a discounted one through my University. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Where are you buying your parts from? Anywhere is fine, but I'd like to primarily focus on Newegg and Frys if there isn't a big difference between other retailers. I also live next to a Fry's microcenter as well, so I can drive there to get items as well. | ||
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Voidz
Spain51 Posts
(edit) I'd like advice on monitors too, 1080p for gaming mostly, and 22-24". Thanks. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On August 08 2011 03:47 Blindo wrote:+ Show Spoiler + What is your budget? 500-700$ What is your resolution? This is extremely important especially for a gaming machine. I see people all the time asking for a video card recommendation and 5 people reply "5850" and the person hasn't even given their gaming resolution; it turns out the person games at 1280x1024 and could have ended up wasting $200 on a card that is total and complete overkill for his resolution. What are you using it for? Mostly gaming, I have a laptop for school. I'd primarily like to play Starcraft 2/Diablo 3/The Witcher, and other new games with reasonably high settings. What is your upgrade cycle? 2 Years When do you plan on building it? Anytime before December. I'm able to buy the parts and build it now, but I'm happy to wait a few months in order to get decent deals. If I could save maybe a 100$ or so I'd be willing to wait till the end of the year. Do you plan on overclocking? No. Do you need an Operating System? No, I can get a discounted one through my University. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Where are you buying your parts from? Anywhere is fine, but I'd like to primarily focus on Newegg and Frys if there isn't a big difference between other retailers. I also live next to a Fry's microcenter as well, so I can drive there to get items as well. So what resolution do you plan to play at? You just went on to say how important this is but never actually mentioned the desired resolution you want to play games at. You can just use a modified build that was recommended by me for someone on the same page, total comes to $683 and is capable of playing current / upcoming games on reasonably high settings at 1080p. If you play at a lower resolution thana you could get a Radeon HD5770 or GTS 450 for around $120. You could go even lower if your desired settings are just low / medium. + Show Spoiler + Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $75 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 Corsair 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $49 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233192 Sapphire Radeon HD6870 @ $175 ($155 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948 XFX Core Edition 450W @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $60 ($50 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 DVD Burner @ $19 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238 On August 08 2011 05:20 Voidz wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hey guys, I need some advice on which PSU and motherboard to buy. I've got an i5 2500 and an Asus 460 GTX 1gb. I plan on overclocking and my budget is around 100 for the mobo, and 50€ for the PSU. (edit) I'd like advice on monitors too, 1080p for gaming mostly, and 22-24". Thanks. Hard to recommend power supplies without knowing the retailer's availability and pricing. Some good ones for this sort of configuration include but not limited to power supplies from the XFX Core Edition, Antec High Current Gamer, Neo Eco, Earthwatts, and Corsair CX lines in the range of 400 - 500w. Some of the lower wattage ones will only have one PCIe connector so you will have to use an adapter but a 430 or 450 will provide more than enough wattage. Again, it's hard to recommend a motherboard without knowing the retailer. Asrock P67 Pro3, Gigabyte Z68, and MSI P67 G series are usually inexpensive good options. A core i5 2500 also only has limited overclocking. You need a core i5 2500K processor for overclocking as it has an unlocked multiplier. | ||
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AresHero
United States39 Posts
If you had looked at the actual cards I am purchasing you would know that they do not in fact come with crossfire bridges....at least on newegg (read the reviews). The graphics cards I am getting are not mediocre crossfired. If you look at FPS charts they will perform better than if i backed off $60 on ram and got a better GPU like a 6970. I loose the ability to upgrade to a second 6970 in the future, but I am fine with that. Better cards will be out. The Caviar Black hard drive is overall the better purchase than the Samsung Spinpoint F3, even though it is $30 more. It has a 25% increase in performance for gaming based on read and write speed. Additionally, it has a 64 MB cache and 6.0 Gb/s transfer opposed to a 32 MB cache and 3.0 Gb/s transfer. The motherboard I chose is able to utilize 6.0 Gb/s so why would I not get a hard drive that will take advantage of it. The caviar Blue/Green are also all out of stock on newegg. 16GB while it is overkill, it is only $60 more than getting 8GB so why not (my original budget was 2k)? And while there is a negligible difference in performance between 1600MHz and 1333MHz there is also a negligible difference in price. The reason I am getting an 850w power supply is for future upgrade potential. I don't want to have to get a new power supply and GPU(s) 2 years from now. I compiled what your build would be on newegg and while saving $30 I ended up with worse graphics, 8GB less ram, and a worse hard drive. I was able to purchase a name brand powersupply with 650W from Corsair, though, after swaping out the 850W from a middle range company that produces well built products. I guess it could be worth it in that regard >.> Lastly instead of Tom's Hardware, what would you recommend I use? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Aren't you going to put games you're currently playing on the SSD? I guess if you can't be bothered with swapping which games are on the SSD and which are not (to be honest I probably wouldn't either), then yeah you can get a 7200rpm drive. But I'm not sure how you're coming up with 25% higher read/write speeds though. Which models? Sequential large transfers or random access? edit: btw I'd take a 80GB Intel 320 Series over a 90GB Vertex 2, for reliability concerns and warranty. For gaming, 8GB is already overkill. Having more unused memory doesn't exactly improve performance. On this budget 1600 MHz is a fine idea though. Rosewill Xtreme Series is the kind of unit that I wouldn't advise somebody to upgrade if they've got one that's 3 years old, but...honestly, why bother with such a mediocre unit these days, for that kind of price? If you're serious about high-end multi-GPU setups in the future like SLI GTX 680 or whatever, get the Antec High Current Gamer 750W for $90, $65 AMIR, which is much much better: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371049 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Harddrives don't even saturate 3Gbps so there's no speed difference between using 3Gbps or 6Gbps. 6Gbps on HDDs is just a marketing gimmick that many uneducated consumers fall for. This is Newegg, one of the largest online computer & electronic retailer, I don't see what Caviar Green or Blue model you're looking at that's out of stock because there are at least half a dozen models all in stock. Harddrives don't have an impact on FPS fyi if you were under this impression. Most modern 7200RPM HDDs are basically identical in terms of gaming performance unless you're telling me you can notice a millisecond difference in load time. Newegg's Rosewill brand is far from being a decent. Their ATING, Solytech, and Deer power supplies range from being shit to mediocre at best. I guess their cases are decent? I don't see your reasoning behind $60 being negligible. If this amount of money is negligible than why not spend it on a case with much better noise reduction, airflow, and build quality that will possibly last a lifetime or a power supply that will last through multiple builds? These are much tedious to change than just inserting more RAM when you find yourself in need of more. The Antec High Current Gamer 750w as recommended by Myrmidon provides basically the same amount of power fyi. The 12v rail on it provides 62.5a (750w) of power while the one on your Rosewill model provides 64a (768w), this is the rail that powers the majority of components which include your CPU and GPU. Most tech websites out there such as Anandtech, Xbitlabs, Hardocp, Hardwaresecrets, Guru3d, Hardwarecanaucks, etc all have higher quality articles (in technical knowledge, depth, organization, and basically every other aspect), a better design (I don't think you can argue this), and a better community. | ||
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Rings
United Kingdom1 Post
£700-1000 What is your resolution? 23" Samsung SyncMaster P2350 1920by1080 What are you using it for? Mostly gaming- Cod series, HoN and new release of Battlefield 3 What is your upgrade cycle? 2years When do you plan on building it? Asap // pre-release battlefield 3 (oct) Do you plan on overclocking? No, possibly on graphics card Do you need an Operating System? Using vista atm, most likely go up to Windows 7 Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Where are you buying your parts from? Im in the Uk so, www.ebuyer.com www.overclockers.co.uk Done some research, Putting a spec together sourcing items from ebuyer, would like a new opinion on the set up, i admit, im no expect and will take any advice/critism on board, appreciating any help. Case: Antec 300 (old case) Processor: Intel Core i5 2500 quad core 3.3ghz 6Mb ---overclockable Mobo: Asus P867-M P67 DDR3 intel LGA1155 DDR3 ATX (No idea on mobo selection !!!!!!) Memory: 8Gb 4x2Gb PC12800 DDR3 / 1600mhz (Corsair) Graphics: Nvidia Geforce GTX 570 1280MB Power: 850watt coolermaster??? SSD: 60GB Corsair Force 3 Cooling: ?? Sound card: most likely add at later date due to 7.1 onboard sound?? O/S: Windows 7 home premium?? Many thanks | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The core i5 2500 without a suffix is overclockable to an extent (+400MHz) but you would be wasting your money... If you really want to overclock, you need a core i5 2500K which comes with an unlocked multiplier. You would also want an aftermarket heatsink such as a Coolermaster Hyper 212+ for overclocking. You would want a secondary HDD such as a Caviar Green, Caviar Blue, or Samsung Spinpoints for storing the remaining software that doesn't fit on the SSD and your documents, media, etc. Unless of course you have an external HDD and think that 60GB is adequate for all your primary software. The Asrock P67 Pro3 is a good budget feature-rich board that's a very capable overclocker: http://www.ebuyer.com/261257 850w is unnecessary for such a configuration. An overclocked configuration such as this would barely break 400w under load. An XFX Core Edition 550w is more than adequate: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-007-XF GTX 570 isn't generally recommended as it's performance difference between a GTX 560 Ti or Radeon HD6950 doesn't justify it's price difference. You can look at reviews and decide for yourself, here's simply two: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4135/ and http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce-gtx-560-ti.html Yes you would want Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit. | ||
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