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On August 01 2011 07:27 supaplex wrote:
thanks good point. So if I like myrmidons build for 2400 does it make sense to get p67 or even h67 instead of h61?
The H61 and H67 does not allow you to overclock so one of the primary reasons why someone gets a P67 motherboard is for the ability to overclock their core i5 2500k. The core i5 2400 can be overclocked but it's multiplier is limited to an increase of four or in other words, 400MHz so it would be a waste to get a P67 motherboard with a non-K suffix processor.
The Asrock H61M-VS is one of the least expensive motherboards you'll find. It doesn't have USB3 or SATA3. A more expensive H61 board will provide both of these (or only one of these) through another chipset if you prefer to have SATA3 for adding a SATA3 SSD later or have USB3 for adding an external USB3 device later. The H67 motherboards generally just provide more connectivity and provide SATA3 natively (slightly better than external chipset).
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Just thinking about the future. Maybe you right and 40$ just not worth it
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Whats with all the bad reviews on that oced fermi.
literally every 2nd one
is hd 5770 more stable?
edit: ended up following myrmidons list. The more i look at it the more i like it. I just sold inferior phenom ii x4 830 with 5670 for 480$, this comes out to 500 after rebate. Pretty heartwarming!
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Canada11279 Posts
Alright, I am finally getting a steady cash flow with extra money to spend which means I can finally invest in decent desktop (and stop abusing my poor, cheap laptop)
I was looking at comps at Future Shop, but I got burned there last time and I think I might as well do it right and save myself later headaches.
Budget
+/- 1000 I'd like to keep the desktop around that price as by the time I add the monitor it'll be 1150-1200.
Resolution:
I don't really understand this part- I want to game SC2 and SCBW- and in that vein is there anyway to know how the comp/ widescreen monitors will handle SCBW? I've had 2 laptops that ran it fine, but my brother's desktop widescreen shrunk it with black borders on all sides, all screen resolution and run in XP mode failed. (And iCCup run in windowed mode hid min/gas/supply count and couldn't scroll across the map without using the minimap)
Use:
Gaming- doubt I'll stream and not really into photoshopping. I sometimes do a bit of video editing however. Nothing extensive though- 10 minute shorts.
Upgrade Cycle:
Rather not replace it for awhile- but I also don't tend to buy that many new games that are graphically demanding- SC2 is the first new game in awhile. Run a bit of LoL, Minecraft and the occasional MMO on a whim.
Build Time:
Relatively soon- Hopefully in Aug, but might be September
Overclock- no. Not that keen on fiddling with that sort of stuff
Operating System- yes, need one
Second GPU- um, not sure? Probably not as I'm not sure the reason for this.
Buying parts from:
Actually I was looking at this particular build from iBUYPOWER
http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/LAN_Warrior_II-67
From the default settings, should I be changing much (overkill/ underpowered hardware)
Or should I be looking elsewhere- I see a lot of people getting stuff from newegg.
My main goal is to play BW and SC2 with no frustrations of lag and overheating, but error a bit on the overkill side as I've fought too long with underpowered and overheating laptops.
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If you're not going to fiddle with overclocking, you're sure as hell not going to fiddle with a second graphics card so no you don't need one.
The resolution is the amount of pixels on your screen horizontally * vertically. Most 22" to 24" monitors will be 1920x1080 which is pretty standard. Starcraft I is an old game and iirc only supports up to 800x600.
Building relatively soon doesn't really cut it in Canada. All (non shit) retailers price match and there are weekly sales so you need a concrete date so a configuration can be recommended.
NCIX offers $50 assembly so I'm not sure why you are even considering an overpriced crap ibuypower if you're not confident in your own skills to build it. Newegg Canada also sucks, only Newegg in the states is decent. You want to purchase all your parts from NCIX, Canada Computers, Memory Express, or any Canadian retailer if you're from Canada. You said you're not going to be overclocking yet you're paying a premium for a processor (core i5 2500k) that is meant to be overclocked and a motherboard (p8p67m pro) that is meant to be used with it for overclocking.
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Canada11279 Posts
Alright, I'll take at look at some of those Canadian parts places and come back with a better idea of what I want.
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What is your budget?
~ $700.
What is your resolution?
1024 x 768
What are you using it for?
Mostly Gaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
Preferably a longer upgrade cycle.
When do you plan on building it?
As soon as possible.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No.
Do you need an Operating System?
No.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg or Fry's
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I have looked at some techie sites that offer suggestions for computer builds. Bit.tech has sorted their categories for kick ass computers for the cheapest bang for buck into different categories.
Premium Player
Gaming Workhorse
Enthusiast Overclocker
and,
Affordable all-rounder
Now, I'm not saying that those are the only options for a gaming computer, but considering that Bit.tech has done all the work in the way of compatibility and price/performance, I might as well go with this, right?
In the event that those builds are not optimal, here are my answers to FragKrag/mahini's questions (that I probably should answer anyway):
What is your budget? 1250-2000
What is your resolution? I don't have the exact monitor or monitor size yet, but I plan it to be fairly large, eg: around 3000ish X 2200ish.
What do you intend to use it for? Gaming. Specifically playing StarCraft II on high as possible settings, recording with fraps and probably running 4+ applications simultaneously, particularly the aforementioned ones above. I will also need to upload and embed very fast and possibly stream high quality too.
Basically, a casting computer but slightly better to allot for new games.
What is your upgrade cycle? About 4 months to a year.
When do you plan on building it? ASAP
Do you plan on overclocking? Somewhere between none to slightly. On the note of HSFs I want a very quiet HSF anyway, it would be bad to have that noise heard on the microphone.
Do you need an operating system? Windows 7 Home Premium
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? If that will get me more bang for my buck and whoever gives me the build thinks it would be better than a single more powerful GPU, sure.
Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg, Fry's or pretty much anywhere that gives good products for cheap prices. I'm flexible here.
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On August 01 2011 12:52 Kinetik_Inferno wrote:
What is your resolution? I don't have the exact monitor or monitor size yet, but I plan it to be fairly large, eg: around 3000ish X 2200ish.
What do you intend to use it for? Gaming. Specifically playing StarCraft II on high as possible settings, recording with fraps and probably running 4+ applications simultaneously, particularly the aforementioned ones above. I will also need to upload and embed very fast and possibly stream high quality too.
Basically, a casting computer but slightly better to allot for new games.
What is your upgrade cycle? About 4 months to a year.
When do you plan on building it? ASAP
Do you plan on overclocking? Somewhere between none to slightly. On the note of HSFs I want a very quiet HSF anyway, it would be bad to have that noise heard on the microphone.
A) You'll can't find a monitor with great resolution than 2560X1600, and those are fairly expensive
B) 4months is an extremely short upgrade cycle. I'd have your upgrade cycle at 1 year minimum
C) If you want to run sc2 at 1920X1080 on high settings and stream in high quality you're going to need to overclock
I'll post a build in a few minutes
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On August 01 2011 13:37 Chocobo wrote:Can I get a quick opinion... should I get this case Lian Li Lancool PC-K57W or an Antec 300 Illusion?
There's not a whole lot of difference. I'd get the antec only because I prefer solid metal cases
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@LgtWizard:
Note that the graphics card is way overkill for the resolution you're playing at. Actually, if you're looking for a new monitor, I'd think spending part of the $700 on the monitor would be a good idea. The below just assumes the monitor will be upgraded soon and separately. It would be easily possible to just get a Core i3-2100, HD 6850, smaller hard drive, cheaper case, and cheaper power supply, and fit in a new 22" 1920x1080 monitor, under budget. That would allow you to play SC2 on ultra at 1920x1080.
Core i5-2500 - $195 (ends 8/3)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073
AsRock H61M-VS - $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241
Sapphire HD 6870 - $175, $155 AMIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948
G.Skill 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
Samsung CD / DVD-RW - $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
XFX Core Edition 450W - $55, $45 AMIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012
Cooler Master HAF 912 - $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233
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I've heard building is cheaper so I'm looking into this. I'm pretty bad with knowing what parts I should get or need. I just want to play SC2/ New coming games on High graphics.
What is your budget?
~ $900
What is your resolution?
Need a monitor. I don't fancy big monitors because I'm used to a smallish laptop one.
What are you using it for?
Gaming 100 percent
What is your upgrade cycle?
Not upgrading for long period of time = better for me
When do you plan on building it?
Soon as I can
Do you plan on overclocking?
No.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
WHAT? Computer dumb. Since I don't know what it is I'm guessing not.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg or a trusted site in USA that I've heard of.
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@deathr0w:
Look at the build in the post above yours and add a monitor to that with a size to your liking. With the extra money, you can (1) save it, (2) upgrade the graphics card, (3) get an SSD, or (4) get a different case like maybe one with easy-to-clean dust filters on all intakes or some other features or a different look.
Upgrading the graphics card may be somewhat of a waste, particularly if the monitor you get is less than 1920x1080. For about $70 more you can get an HD 6950, but the performance difference is not worth the price difference at some resolutions and especially without a out of AA/AF:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/331?vs=290
An SSD won't improve any gaming performance except time spent loading levels/whatever, but only if you actually (temporarily?) store the game on the SSD.
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any opinions on good sata3 ~60gb ssds? theres a few im eyeing atm, namely the crucial m4, corsair force 3, ocz vertex 3 etc. im leaning towards the crucial, is there any other better choices? ive heard a few disappointing things about ocz 60gb ssds and id like prefer stability over raw speed
PS. all i do is play games, no video editing or any of that stuff
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If you want stability than you want a Samsung, Crucial, or Intel.
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Hey guys, I am trying to build a laptop, but I cant seem to find any decent barebones cases, also I have heard a lot of people say that it really isn't worth it to build a laptop because of frustration, and its not as large of a marginal difference to building a desktop.
I do need it to be a laptop, I already have a desktop. I would be taking it to LANs and to work and college. My question is: Are there any sites you can suggest that sell bare-bones laptop (cases) for a reasonable price? (Newegg discontinued there bare-bones laptops) And the second question is would it really be worth it to build my own as oppose to buying a prebuilt one on sale or re-certified?
edit
I really don't need it to be compact at all, it could be the size of a suitcase and I would be fine with the size, it just needs to be battery operated and a decent resolution (1600x900 ish) with a newer (budget) motherboard compatability.
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I knew somebody that built from a barebones laptop kit, and it was apparently a lot of work and fidgety to install, and the price wasn't that different in the end. It's also tough finding replacement parts that work, if something fails like the GPU. Unlike on a desktop, upgrade options are still kind of limited, so the advantages aren't really there.
I'd just try to find a decent sale on a prebuilt one. Or maybe somebody else knows of much better experiences with these kits.
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What is your budget?
$1000+/- less is better
What is your resolution?
1680x1050
What are you using it for?
Gaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years, still rocking the 8800gt(which is dying now)
When do you plan on building it?
month/now if the deal can't wait
Do you plan on overclocking?
I would like to be able to over clock if the need comes.
Do you need an Operating System?
yes, 64bit OS so I can add more ram and all the other good stuff..
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I don't.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg
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