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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Gattaca.usa
Profile Joined October 2010
131 Posts
July 29 2011 14:30 GMT
#8921
I have a quick question.... How do I know if heatsink/fan will fit in my case/mobo?

Case and Mobo are in this bundle: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.644166


HSF that I am looking at:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065


For both of the HSF, people are saying that it is huge and that it might not fit in all cases.




skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 29 2011 16:53 GMT
#8922
Yes it'll fit, you could have just searched the reviews or googled it...
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 29 2011 18:16 GMT
#8923
Yeah, on page 13 of newegg reviews, somebody used a CM Hyper 212 Plus (approx. 160mm tall, pretty much same as the Xigmatek and most tower coolers that use 120mm fans). The heatsinks you're looking at are the standard height for aftermarket cooling these days, but a whole lot narrower than the high-end models.

Many cheaper and particularly older cases are narrower and won't fit the 160mm tall coolers.
Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
July 29 2011 19:43 GMT
#8924
Hey, I've narrowed down my monitor choices to three (barring any better suggestions):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889150005
Best in size
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236103
Best in picture quality
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009269
Best in price, the one I'm leaning towards at the moment.

Does anyone have advice for or against any of these models?

Also, could someone recommend a keyboard / mouse? SC II and Skyrim are probably going to be the main games I play.
Capitalism is beneficial for people who work harder than other people. Under capitalism the only way to make more money is to work harder then your competitors whether they be other companies or workers. ~ Vegetarian
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
July 29 2011 23:59 GMT
#8925
All huge monitors have pretty horrid pixel density. If your eyesight isn't bad, I'd advise against getting a 1080P 32" monitor.

Unless you absolutely need a TV tuner, which you don't seem to need as the ASUS VE278Q doesn't have one, you are better off getting a smaller 1080P monitor in 23"/24" range and simply sitting closer. With $350, you can buy a Dell U2412 IPS straight from their store with an education/military coupon or two and it will be mindblowing compared to those two monitors.
Gattaca.usa
Profile Joined October 2010
131 Posts
July 30 2011 00:58 GMT
#8926
On July 30 2011 01:53 skyR wrote:
Yes it'll fit, you could have just searched the reviews or googled it...


but i trust what you say! and searching through all the reviews would have taken a lot of work.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
July 30 2011 01:44 GMT
#8927
hey Jornundr, I've seen a 32" TV as a computer screen in action and it sucks. The reason why is pretty basic, but it's easy to miss if you don't think about it.

"Full HD" TVs are 1080p, which means 1920x1080 pixels make up the screen. Regular "HD" TVs are 1280x720 I think. Pixels, are, of course, the individual little lights that make up a monitor. So the larger the monitor the larger the pixels.

But hey, you say, big HD TVs look great! Yes, they do. But not for displaying text, which needs a better resolution to not be blurry and then unreadable. The big pixels makes text fuzzy. And unless you're watching TV, you use text for EVERYTHING. Even in SC2 you have chat, resource number in the upper screen, etc. It's incredibly frustrating when BASIC functions don't work well on a computer, or require you to move closer and burn out your eyes on an incredibly bright TV screen.

Don't get me wrong, a 32" 1080p tv will work, it just won't work well. You're better off getting a cheaper 24-27" 1080p monitor and a similar-sized 720p TV if you really really want a big-screen. (Or saving for a better one.) If you're really on a budget you can gamble on a used screen from amazon. Plus then you can load up media like SC2 major tournament streams on the big-screen .

There's a reason 30" monitors are so expensive - they're 2560x1600 (or something like that) resolution because at larger than 27" 1080p just isn't good enough for a monitor. Flagship + sheer number of pixels = $. But a better resolution than even 50" TV screens.

Took me awhile to figure that out. Often, bigger just isn't better for monitors.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
July 30 2011 02:44 GMT
#8928
My Raidmax Tornado case didn't fit my Xigmatek Gaia, playing with an open case and Dust-Offing every 2 days. =(
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
YeahScience
Profile Joined April 2011
United States6 Posts
July 30 2011 03:05 GMT
#8929
I recently bought an i5 2500k and tried it out in a new build without a hard drive. The thing booted up to BIOS and I had it there for 5 minutes when I realized that the stock cooler fan wasn't rotating. I turned it off and and tried moving the fan manually but it won't rotate freely. I assume this means the fan is broken.

Question 1: Did this damage the cpu? The motherboard supposedly has some thing where it will turn off if the cpu gets too hot.

Question 2: Should I just try to return the cpu and stock cooler to Newegg and get a replacement? Or is this not a legitimate reason for returning?

Build:

i5 2500k
Biostar TP67B+
Antec Earthwatts 500W
G Skill Sniper 8GB
XFX Radeon HD 6870
Rosewill Challenger Case
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 03:11:44
July 30 2011 03:11 GMT
#8930
stupid question, did you branch it to the mobo ?

if so, try with the fan that came with the i5
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
YeahScience
Profile Joined April 2011
United States6 Posts
July 30 2011 03:15 GMT
#8931
yeah I hooked it up to the cpu_fan1 or whatever it's called, and it's the fan that came with the i5 that isn't working.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
July 30 2011 03:23 GMT
#8932
if you bought a i5-2500k you bought another fan right ?
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
YeahScience
Profile Joined April 2011
United States6 Posts
July 30 2011 03:25 GMT
#8933
I wasn't going to overclock right away so the stock fan would have been fine... had it worked.
Toss907
Profile Joined March 2011
United States71 Posts
July 30 2011 03:49 GMT
#8934
Is the i7-970 worth the price over the i7-2500k??

I am in the process of looking to piece together a new comp, I am basing it around the things I hate with mine but I actually do not know what causes the things I hate, so any insight is appreciated!

I hate when I alt+tab to firefox with SC2, my stream on, skype and Pandora running that its not instantaneous. What hardware prevents me from doing that kinda stuff with ease? what exactly causes this?
Winning!
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
July 30 2011 03:53 GMT
#8935
On July 30 2011 12:25 YeahScience wrote:
I wasn't going to overclock right away so the stock fan would have been fine... had it worked.


well try that fan then .... if it doesnt work then robably the connector which is defective since you can get in the bios, cant be the mobo
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
July 30 2011 04:00 GMT
#8936
On July 30 2011 12:49 Toss907 wrote:
Is the i7-970 worth the price over the i7-2500k??

I am in the process of looking to piece together a new comp, I am basing it around the things I hate with mine but I actually do not know what causes the things I hate, so any insight is appreciated!

I hate when I alt+tab to firefox with SC2, my stream on, skype and Pandora running that its not instantaneous. What hardware prevents me from doing that kinda stuff with ease? what exactly causes this?


No, it is worse in almost every possible way.
1) it costs more
2) it performs pretty much the same as the i7-2600k
3) all its peripherals cost more (mobos at $300? O.o)
4) it has no upgrade path, while the 2600k conceptually you can swap out for an ivy bridge i7 when it comes out.
Toss907
Profile Joined March 2011
United States71 Posts
July 30 2011 04:04 GMT
#8937
On July 30 2011 13:00 ensign_lee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 12:49 Toss907 wrote:
Is the i7-970 worth the price over the i7-2500k??

I am in the process of looking to piece together a new comp, I am basing it around the things I hate with mine but I actually do not know what causes the things I hate, so any insight is appreciated!

I hate when I alt+tab to firefox with SC2, my stream on, skype and Pandora running that its not instantaneous. What hardware prevents me from doing that kinda stuff with ease? what exactly causes this?


No, it is worse in almost every possible way.
1) it costs more
2) it performs pretty much the same as the i7-2600k
3) all its peripherals cost more (mobos at $300? O.o)
4) it has no upgrade path, while the 2600k conceptually you can swap out for an ivy bridge i7 when it comes out.



Thanks!
Winning!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 05:40:21
July 30 2011 05:37 GMT
#8938
On July 30 2011 12:49 Toss907 wrote:
Is the i7-970 worth the price over the i7-2500k??

I am in the process of looking to piece together a new comp, I am basing it around the things I hate with mine but I actually do not know what causes the things I hate, so any insight is appreciated!

I hate when I alt+tab to firefox with SC2, my stream on, skype and Pandora running that its not instantaneous. What hardware prevents me from doing that kinda stuff with ease? what exactly causes this?


alt+tab speed, loading applications, etc. have to do with moving data around mostly. You want more memory (RAM) and/or possibly an SSD. For loading applications and general system responsiveness, you really want an SSD. It won't help gaming performance, but it'll prevent your really fast processor twiddling its thumbs waiting on drive access all the time, in a lot of normal computer usage.

For the things you described, an i5-2500k ($220) would be just as good as the i7-2600k ($315). You're not doing anything, even with all those things put together, that would benefit from the hyperthreading (the advantage the i7-2600k has over the i5-2500k).

For your purposes, the i5-2500k would be faster than the i7-970.
Gattaca.usa
Profile Joined October 2010
131 Posts
July 30 2011 13:01 GMT
#8939
Do i need to buy thermal paste with my i5 2500k and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082?

Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 30 2011 16:32 GMT
#8940
On July 30 2011 22:01 Gattaca.usa wrote:
Do i need to buy thermal paste with my i5 2500k and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082?


It comes with its own thermal paste that is sufficient.
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