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Superpower
Australia212 Posts
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + What exactly are you asking? Can some guy add a i7 into what computer? Also you should fill out the form that are in the first post of this thread if you want people to give you the best advice. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On August 01 2011 18:13 Korlinni wrote:+ Show Spoiler + What is your budget? $1000+/- less is better What is your resolution? 1680x1050 What are you using it for? Gaming What is your upgrade cycle? 2+ years, still rocking the 8800gt(which is dying now) When do you plan on building it? month/now if the deal can't wait Do you plan on overclocking? I would like to be able to over clock if the need comes. Do you need an Operating System? yes, 64bit OS so I can add more ram and all the other good stuff.. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? I don't. Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg Here's an overclockable configuration for $844 capable of playing current and upcoming games on high / maxed settings at 1050p and even capable of doing this at 1080p for most games. Intel Core i5 2500k & PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK II 500 @ $265 ($245 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.691415 Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 XFX Radeon HD6850 @ $160 ($130 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150516 GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 DVD Burner @ $19 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $95 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 Xigmatek Gaia @ $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082 If you have no intention of ever upgrading to a 1080p before you upgrade this computer and you want to lower your total than you can get a Radeon HD5770 instead for $120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873 or a similarily performing GTS 450 for $110: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130573 You can also take off the Xigmatek Gaia if you don't mind adding it when you start overclocking. On August 01 2011 18:24 Superpower wrote: Hey, im just wondering ( im aREAL computer noob, bought my computer premade) can you add all the parts to the computer? Like i go and buy some i7 thing, if thats possible to go and buy can i just get some guy to stick it into the computer? And can this be done with all parts? Thanks Yes to your first question of adding all the parts to a computer(?). A computer is made up of multiple things such as the processor, motherboard, graphics card, memory, harddrive, and power supply so essentially you can change all of it (I think this is what you're asking?) -_- No to your adding i7 question. Think of computers as lego or a puzzle as you will. There are multiple pieces and often times, a piece will only fit with one other piece. For an i7 to fit, you need a certain socket motherboard to fit it. | ||
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Quartal
140 Posts
On August 01 2011 18:24 Superpower wrote: Hey, im just wondering ( im aREAL computer noob, bought my computer premade) can you add all the parts to the computer? Like i go and buy some i7 thing, if thats possible to go and buy can i just get some guy to stick it into the computer? And can this be done with all parts? Thanks Most computer shops would be able to install/assemble components you order from them. Just make sure that whatever you're buying is compatible with existing hardware. Keep in mind that if you're upgrading your prebuilt, replacing any parts will probably void your warranty. | ||
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SoLaR[i.C]
United States2969 Posts
Seems like they do an awesome job in testing and reviewing components. I also like that they offer a variety of builds at different price ranges. I could see myself buying the recommended components of the "Enthusiast Overclocker" build. Here's a link to last month's entry. August 2011 should be up fairly soon. Bit-Tech PC Hardware Buyer's Guide July 2011 | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On August 02 2011 04:02 SoLaR[i.C] wrote: For the pc build veterans: what do you think of the monthly builds found on www.bit-tech.net? Seems like they do an awesome job in testing and reviewing components. I also like that they offer a variety of builds at different price ranges. I could see myself buying the recommended components of the "Enthusiast Overclocker" build. Here's a link to last month's entry. August 2011 should be up fairly soon. Bit-Tech PC Hardware Buyer's Guide July 2011 It's the same as most of them out there. Prices obviously aren't up to date, builds are generic and may not be particularly suited to what you need, and I'm often not a fan of certain component choices. e.g. picking up the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro on the low-end build, for a Core i3-2100 (that can't overclock). I wouldn't recommend the enthusiast overclocker build unless you're an enthusiast overclocker looking for 5.0 GHz+. And if so, why are you asking us? Cooler and motherboard are overkill for utilitarian overclocking, yet the power supply isn't too amazing. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284 I'm tempted to buy the first link since there is a promo code that is $10 off. | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
Reviews for them seem to be quite good. To me, it seems like a good balance of low noise and some significantly increased airflow (edit: and great price vs. getting 2x200mm fans) http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=33852&vpn=D12SL-12-RED/BLACK&manufacture=Yate Loon&promoid=1310. EDIT #2: These guys seem to have it for less, but it says "OEM FAN" - not sure what OEM means for fans, I assume it still comes with the default cables (3pin and molex adapter)? http://www.jab-tech.com/YATE-LOON-120mm-Case-Fan-D12SL-12-pr-3009.html | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
The one with 64MB cache is a newer model. The size of the cache itself has negligible impact on performance, except in some extreme scenarios. I think the older one may have 3 disk platters internally, while the newer one most likely uses 2 platters (less is better). Both are kind of expensive as far as 1TB 7200rpm hard drives go. Unless you're a Western Digital loyalist or really need the 5 years warranty or very slightly better performance, I'd just pick up a Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB ($60): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
OEM model means you don't get anything in the package other than the fan (no adapters or screws). D12SL should be decent, but they're apparently not that quiet at the full 1350 rpm. I'm inclined to think that four extra fans in your HAF 912 are overkill unless you've got some hardcore overclocks or SLI/Crossfire, so I'd prefer the -no fan- option. It costs 0 and doesn't increase the noise! However, you don't get any more airflow.  | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On August 02 2011 06:59 Myrmidon wrote: @Wabbit: OEM model means you don't get anything in the package other than the fan (no adapters or screws). D12SL should be decent, but they're apparently not that quiet at the full 1350 rpm. I'm inclined to think that four extra fans in your HAF 912 are overkill unless you've got some hardcore overclocks or SLI/Crossfire, so I'd prefer the -no fan- option. It costs 0 and doesn't increase the noise! However, you don't get any more airflow. Thanks  The noise seems low enough (the stock 2 1100RPM fans on the 912 are "not audible" to me). There's some other factors, like feeling good about your PC | ||
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Superpower
Australia212 Posts
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deathr0w
United States114 Posts
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=12093409 | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On August 02 2011 07:33 deathr0w wrote: Ideas of this build http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=12093409 You have an older gen i5, which is at the same pricepoint as the new i5's but not even close to as good. It really depends what you're looking for. You'd get much more performance out of an i5 2400 or an i5 2500k if you'd like to overclock. Processors are also much cheaper if you live near a Fry's or Microcenter rather than newegg. You'd consequently need a different socket (particularly the 1155). However, it'd be nice to know what you're using the setup for in particular (mostly gaming?), what your budget is, etc. This power supply is a better make (essentially a remake) of the one you listed http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020, although you can definitely find a cheaper one that's still of high quality. On August 02 2011 07:19 Superpower wrote: Thanks alot, so i need a motherboard with an i7 socket? If so what is a good one to buy any price Not quite. As if it isn't already confusing enough for new people, there are many different types of i7s. Depending on which one you have (or are planning on buying), you'd need either the LGA 1155 (i7 2xxx), LGA 1156 (i7 8xx), or LGA 1336 (i7 9xx). If you're planning on purchasing an i7, you'd want to go with the LGA 1155 socket and an i7 2600 (k version if you want to overclock) most likely. The LGA 1155 socket is compatible with all newest generation i-core processors, which are code-named Sandybridge. You can tell if it's a sandybridge CPU because there will be four numbers, such as i5 2500 vs your i5 760. | ||
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ronpaul012
United States769 Posts
Anyway I've tried streaming, and its doable, but it my games framrate drops down to like 20-30 even if I turn the settings down. I think it's because I don't have enough ram to do all the tasks at once, but maybe its my upload? I want to stream 720p. Is my internet not fast enough or do I need more ram? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Streaming doesn't need that much RAM. What's your usage at while streaming? If it's like below 3.5 GB used, I wouldn't suspect RAM being an issue. Your CPU is definitely good enough for that. What's your CPU utilization look like while streaming? Look again at the various streaming guides around. Check all the settings and make sure to use whatever encoder profile is fastest. edit: there are other threads more specifically about streaming so maybe you would get more help there. This thread's supposed to be just more about hardware. And your hardware is sufficient, so that's not the problem. Make sure to post if you're using XSplit or FLME or whatever else, and your settings (in one of the other threads). | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On August 02 2011 07:07 Wabbit wrote: Thanks The noise seems low enough (the stock 2 1100RPM fans on the 912 are "not audible" to me). There's some other factors, like feeling good about your PC Well, that's always a reason. Tweaking can be nice in of itself. I suspect that the most sensible addition would be adding an intake fan on the side panel with a dust filter. Then you can actually get fresh air easily to the graphics card and slightly have a positive pressure scenario. Anyway, whatever you do, post back again about how temperatures change before and after. | ||
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deathr0w
United States114 Posts
On August 02 2011 07:43 FabledIntegral wrote: You have an older gen i5, which is at the same pricepoint as the new i5's but not even close to as good. It really depends what you're looking for. You'd get much more performance out of an i5 2400 or an i5 2500k if you'd like to overclock. Processors are also much cheaper if you live near a Fry's or Microcenter rather than newegg. You'd consequently need a different socket (particularly the 1155). However, it'd be nice to know what you're using the setup for in particular (mostly gaming?), what your budget is, etc. This power supply is a better make (essentially a remake) of the one you listed http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020, although you can definitely find a cheaper one that's still of high quality. Could you possibly make a build for me off Newegg? This comp is for gaming and I'd prefer it to be around the $1000 range. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On August 01 2011 19:07 skyR wrote: Here's an overclockable configuration for $844 capable of playing current and upcoming games on high / maxed settings at 1050p and even capable of doing this at 1080p for most games. Intel Core i5 2500k & PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK II 500 @ $265 ($245 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.691415 Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 XFX Radeon HD6850 @ $160 ($130 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150516 GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 DVD Burner @ $19 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $95 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 Xigmatek Gaia @ $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082 If you don't want to overclock than remove the Xigmatek Gaia, replace the Asrock P67 Pro3 with an Asrock H61M U3S3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 and replace the core i5 2500k with a core i5 2400: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 , all of which will take roughly $90 off the total. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
edit: ninja'd + Show Spoiler + Anyway, there's a build for you earlier on this page. You could save like $100 off of it if you're not interested in overclocking the CPU ever (if so, say so and I'll hunt down alternate parts). Add a monitor to it. Personally I wouldn't go smaller than 21.5" 1920x1080, but if you're sure you want 19" that's okay. On August 01 2011 19:07 skyR wrote: Here's an overclockable configuration for $844 capable of playing current and upcoming games on high / maxed settings at 1050p and even capable of doing this at 1080p for most games. + Show Spoiler [rest of old post] + Intel Core i5 2500k & PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK II 500 @ $265 ($245 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.691415 Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 XFX Radeon HD6850 @ $160 ($130 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150516 GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 DVD Burner @ $19 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $95 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 Xigmatek Gaia @ $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082 If you have no intention of ever upgrading to a 1080p before you upgrade this computer and you want to lower your total than you can get a Radeon HD5770 instead for $120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873 or a similarily performing GTS 450 for $110: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130573 You can also take off the Xigmatek Gaia if you don't mind adding it when you start overclocking. | ||
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