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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
geethy
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia67 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 21:40:05
June 06 2011 21:35 GMT
#6381
Cool, I swapped a lot of the products for what you said, so now I have a cheaper GPU and CPU, and I put money into the keyboard and mouse and a bit into the Motherboard. And i switched to the RV02 for the case. Anywhere else you think I should move money? By the way, I couldn't get the cheaper Windows 7, I have not even been to uni yet.
+ Show Spoiler +
Intel Core i5 2500K- $219

G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL (2x4GB) DDR3- $95

ASUS GeForce GTX 570 DirectCU II 1280MB- $399

ASUS P8P67-M PRO Motherboard B3- $159

Antec High Current Gamer 750W Power Supply HCG-750- $149

SilverStone Raven RV02-E with window- $185

OCZ Vertex 2 120GB SSD- $219

Western Digital Green 2TB WD20EARX- $89

Saitek Cyborg R.A.T. 9 Gaming Mouse- $179

Das Keyboard Model S Professional- $139

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit with SP1 OEM- $105

TP-Link TL-WN951N Wireless N PCI Adapter- $39

ASUS VE248H 24" Widescreen LED Monitor- $225

LG GH22NS70 22x DVD-RW Drive Retail- $39

Total Price: $2250

http://www.pccasegear.com/
'Money can't buy you happiness, but I'd rather cry in a Ferrari.'
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
June 06 2011 21:37 GMT
#6382
Christ, $200 mouse...
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
geethy
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia67 Posts
June 06 2011 21:40 GMT
#6383
Yeah, the other guys suggested moving more money into something that would last longer than a GPU or CPU, which makes sense. Should last quite a while
'Money can't buy you happiness, but I'd rather cry in a Ferrari.'
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 06 2011 21:59 GMT
#6384
Hey, I just wanted to make sure everything is fine before ordering


Corsair Builder Series CMPSU-430CXV2 430W ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan *3 Year Warranty* @ 34.99$

Corsair CMV4GX3M2A1333C9 4GB DDR3 2X2GB DDR3-1333 CL9 Dual Channel Memory Kit
@ 37,94$

ASUS VH236H 23 Widescreen LCD Monitor Black 1920X1080 16 2MS 20000:1DC HDMI DVI VGA With Speakers
@ 159.99$ (20 MIR, so 139)


Samsung DVDRW 22X SATA Black OEM @ 19,99$

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB 3.5IN SATA 6GB/S With NCQ Internal Hard Drive OEM
@ 36,99$


Microsoft Comfort Curve Desktop 2000 Black Keyboard and Mouse Combo USB *IR-$5*
@ 19.99$

Logitech S220 2.1 Multimedia PC Speakers Black OEM *IR-$5* @ 22.21


Coolermaster Elite 370 Black Mid Tower ATX Case 3X5.25 1X3.5 5X3.5INT No PS
@ 35.64$

nGear Blue Flash Card Reader USB2.0 SD/SDHC/SM/MMC/MS/XD MicroSD External @ 4,91$

Total = 372.35 if all pricematch accepted.

Any improvements can be done to this build while not increasing too much the costs?
Also, the CPU/Mobo will be 1055/Gigabyte 890gpa ud3h that i will sell her for 150-200$ (as suggested by Skyr)
Will the Corsair be enough to power up the build?

I believe the Gigabyte Mobo also has an integrated GPU. I will be upgrading to SB 2500k UNLESS you guys do not recommend it (for some reason!)

There are no good 'Free ground shipping for entire order' this week, I believe. But if there are, feel free to point them out!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 06 2011 23:12 GMT
#6385
@itsmay

The guide should just serve as a baseline for you. Many of the choices aren't ideal and the author has a bias for Seasonic, Corsair, Antec, and MSI.

@XenOmega

Yes, the power supply is enough.
Impulsa
Profile Joined November 2010
United States122 Posts
June 06 2011 23:32 GMT
#6386
@geethy just curious why you want a micro atx mobo on a full tower case
geethy
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia67 Posts
June 06 2011 23:53 GMT
#6387
Wow, totally missed that, thanks for pointing that out. I will change that to a ASUS P8P67 Motherboard B3 for $179. By the way, is the RAT 9 worth the $179 or should I just go for the ROCCAT Kone [+] for $119?
'Money can't buy you happiness, but I'd rather cry in a Ferrari.'
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 07 2011 00:03 GMT
#6388
On June 07 2011 08:53 geethy wrote:
Wow, totally missed that, thanks for pointing that out. I will change that to a ASUS P8P67 Motherboard B3 for $179. By the way, is the RAT 9 worth the $179 or should I just go for the ROCCAT Kone [+] for $119?


You should go to a computer store and look at the mice, and decide based on their shape, size, and weight, or aesthetic, or whatever other thing you deem important, because mouse selection has both objective and subjective factors.
Ayestes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 02:18:08
June 07 2011 02:02 GMT
#6389
What is your budget?

$1,200 would be the optimal most, but would like $900 to $1,300. Including the monitors and tablet I'm looking at going around $2,000 which my job will pay for. I do not need a mouse, mic, or ethernet cable, but beyond that and the monitors I need pretty much everything.

What is your resolution?

1920x1080 (3 Monitors)

What are you using it for?

Mostly concerned about gaming for StarCraft 2, Portal 2, League of Legends, Brink, and Darkspore. I'm using 2 monitors right now and really want to move up to 3. Currently can't as I'm using a laptop that is 3-4 years old. Other uses would be streaming, forum browsing, and PHP programming. Will run Chromium (for the children to use), Ubuntu (for work purposes), and Windows 7 (for the grand barrel of the rest).

What is your upgrade cycle?

2+ years

When do you plan on building it?

I'll order it this week if I find something I like.

Do you plan on overclocking?

If it's efficient. I've had heating problems before though with some computers so this concerns me.

Do you need an Operating System?

Indeed I do. Win7 Pro?

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

I imagine I would for 3 monitors. I'm open the possibility.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg, TigerDirect, or anywhere online.


Thanks for any help I could get.
Would you kindly?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 07 2011 02:07 GMT
#6390
You would be gaming across three monitors, or just gaming on one with other things open on the others?
Ayestes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 02:14:00
June 07 2011 02:13 GMT
#6391
Likely just gaming on the single monitor. While it would be nifty, it's not a requirement. I enjoy playing with a stream open currently on dual monitors.
Would you kindly?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 02:21:53
June 07 2011 02:21 GMT
#6392
Here's something to get you started.

Total: $1418 before mail in rebates.

CrossfireX capable if you ever decide to add a second 6950 2GB for Eyefinity (gaming with three monitors). Also overclockable which you should do since there's a decent performance gain from it and the new processors are extremely efficient.

Intel Core i5 2500k & Gigabyte Z68 D3H Bundle @ $330
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.654386

Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 2GB @ $263 ($233 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102928

GSkill 1333MHz 2x4GB @ $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

XFX Core Edition 650 @ $90 ($70 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207014

Corsair Performance 3 128GB @ $230 ($200 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233154

Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136514

Silverstone RV03 @ $160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163180

Xigmatek Gaia @ $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

Windows 7 Professional @ $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116992

DVD Burner @ $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 02:44:49
June 07 2011 02:44 GMT
#6393
Check the features of the Windows versions. I suspect Home Premium 64-bit OEM ($95) would be sufficient for your needs.

Cost-cut version with a much worse (but hopefully serviceable) case and power supply and smaller-capacity (worse also?) HDD would be:

Combo - $560
Intel Core i5-2500k
Gigabyte Z68A-D3
Corsair 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM
Seagate Barracuda 1TB
Lite-ON CD / DVD-RW
Rosewill Green Series 630W
Rosewill Future
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.657737

Xigmatek Gaia - $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

EVGA GTX 560 Ti AR (lifetime warranty) 850 MHz - $245 ($225 AMIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

Intel 320 Series 120GB - $210 shipped
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=G3_120GB&title=Intel-320-Series-G3-Postville-Refresh-2-5-inch-120GB-SATA2-Solid-State-Drive-for-Laptop-and-Desktop-PC-OEM

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM - $95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986


With Z68 you can apparently use the integrated graphics to drive one or two monitors while the discrete graphics card handles other monitors.
Ayestes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 02:59:09
June 07 2011 02:48 GMT
#6394
Directed at the first one, I really like the look of all that. I do have a weird thing for Nvidia cards over Radeon I neglected to mention. It's part experience and part superstition. If the Radeon card is much better then an Nvidia one in this case, I'll defer to your judgement,

About the Solid State drive, I've honestly not dealt with them yet at all. I'd imagine they'd be used for operating systems and core programs for the speed it has? I admit, I don't even know much about using them at all. I like the idea of it if that is what it would be for. Something like a 40 GB Windows partition, some small Chromium and Ubuntu partitions, and the rest for games. Then the 2 TB for media storage?

I like the way the second one looks too. Would the case be that much more trouble the the first example? Honestly I've only ever survived on less then 200 GB, but I'll admit I could easily fill up a TB with media. What would the difference be in hard drives here then? Would it be noticeable in that case?

As for the OS, I have a .edu account I still have access to. I think I can get Win7 Pro cheap from it somehow. If I can do it twice at least.
Would you kindly?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 07 2011 02:58 GMT
#6395
On second thought, there may be weird issues with multiple monitors and graphics card drivers for Linux and maybe Chromium. Driver support is not always so hot for those adopting relatively new tech.

You're right about the usage of the SSD. 120GB should be enough for a reasonable partition for all of the OSes you are running, though I'd just put Program Files and a few games on the Windows OS partition.
Ayestes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 03:03:05
June 07 2011 03:01 GMT
#6396
Ubuntu if possible I'd want the three monitors, but I doubt my children need three monitors for Chromium. Honestly, the Ubuntu could be just there in case my Windows fails, meaning it needs only a tiny bit of space and not need the three monitor support.

I heard a while back that leaving windows alone on a ~30-40GB partition will make sure it's always speedy. With solid state could it be irrelevant now?
Would you kindly?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 03:13:32
June 07 2011 03:10 GMT
#6397
On June 07 2011 12:01 Ayestes wrote:
I heard a while back that leaving windows alone on a ~30-40GB partition will make sure it's always speedy. With solid state could it be irrelevant now?

I'm not positive, but I think the reason for doing the OS-only partition was so (1) you could make sure the partition was physically located along the outside of the hard drive, since mechanical speeds and thus read/write speeds are fastest along the outside of a disc and (2) it wouldn't get massively fragmented. I'm not buying that that made a whole lot of difference for mechanical drives, but it sure would be irrelevant for an SSD.

The RV03 should be a top-notch air cooling case that doesn't sound like a jet engine, hence the cost. skyR's build has the significantly better power supply too (internals and performance are better, not just having 20W more on the label, though the Rosewill Green Series is far from terrible), so it's just much better suited to being able to cool and power multiple graphics cards, if you ever want to go that route.

About the Seagate, a lot of people just don't seem to like Seagate based on anecdotal evidence of failures. That was kind of what I was referring to. However, aside from the firmware issue resulting in massive problems with the last-generation HDDs, I don't think their recent track record is bad. I think there's more of a perception than an actual issue. I wouldn't worry about it. It's always good to have backups on external storage or in the cloud, anyway.

edit: one of the only data points publicly available is this 1 yr hardware defect/return rate listing:
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/810-6/disques-durs-ssd.html

Top is HDDs, bottom is SSDs.
Ayestes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 03:31:34
June 07 2011 03:25 GMT
#6398
Quite interesting. With my luck on overheating issues, I think I'd actually be interested in spending a little extra to keep it usable. I might just go with a lot of skyR's recommendations, but mix in the Nvidia card you recommend Myrmidon and go with a cheaper Windows7 (via .edu or Home). Likely read into more about the drives. Would that be advised to mix in the Nvidia into that? Also, I've had little experience with 3 monitor hookups, do I need a splitter of a sort?

Do you guys have any recommendations for monitors? I'd prefer they just be long lasting.

I also neglected to realize, this has to be all on one receipt, for work purposes. Thus I have to stick "most" of it on Newegg. (not necessarily all if I pay out of pocket)

Edit: As for looking at the differences between Home and Professional, I notice it mentions Remote Desktop Host missing in Home. Does that mean I wouldn't be able to use services such as LogMeIn with Professional? Beyond that... I think Home would be perfectly acceptable.
Would you kindly?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 03:56:46
June 07 2011 03:36 GMT
#6399
If you can get Windows for free or at a discounted price through MSDNAA or another method than yes it's recommended. Windows 7 Professional is usually the one provided with MSNDAA and the .edu promotion.

With a Z68, you should be able to support three monitors by just using DVI. As for monitors, Dell Ultrasharps. This website is a great resource for high quality monitors: http://tftcentral.co.uk/

The Intel SSD is roughly the same price as the Corsair one before mail in rebates: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167052 The Corsair has higher performance while the Intel is more reliable (five year warranty as opposed to three of the Corsair).
Ayestes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 03:48:27
June 07 2011 03:43 GMT
#6400
Sounds excellent. Thank you so much.

One last question, I only have .edu address anymore, so I could only use http://www.microsoft.com/student/en/us/software/windows/default.aspx I think. It only lists the upgrade, thus, I don't think I'd qualify. Am I right here?

I certainly have a choice as to which SSD to use, and will have to think it over tonight. Again, much thanks to both you.
Would you kindly?
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