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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 03:58:00
June 07 2011 03:49 GMT
#6401
I've heard rumors of a way to use an upgrade version for a clean install, but I'm not sure if a link to that would be allowed on TL.

I also don't have a clue how involved it is, just had a friend mention it recently.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 07 2011 03:54 GMT
#6402
Upgrade and OEM discs are near identical. You can do a fresh install with either media.
Adicon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States22 Posts
June 07 2011 04:39 GMT
#6403
I posted a few pages back. Here is what I am thinking I will buy. Decided to go with the 2500K and appropriate motherboard in case I want to overclock at some point. Figure if I am going to do it I might as well do it right Let me know if anything here seems funky or if I should consider anything else. Not sure about the motherboard but it seemed like a good deal.


$315 - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz + BIOSTAR TZ68A+ LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.658273

$75 - G.SKILL 8GB DDR3 1333 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-231-424&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=2

+ This set of stuff for $350 as discussed previously

ASUS 6970 DirectCu II 2 GB -
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7280378&CatId=3669

Ultra x4 850w - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp? EdpNo=4558892&SRCCODE=GOOGLEBASE&cm_mmc_o=VRqCjC7BBTkwCjCECjCE

Seagate 1 Tb 7200 RPM 3Gb/s - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433

Antec Nine Hundred Two - http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Nine-Hundred-Two-Ultimate/dp/B001P4UAF0
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 07 2011 04:57 GMT
#6404
Everything looks good, you're just missing a DVD Drive.

Just note that the motherboard only has 4 usb ports on the back.
Adicon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States22 Posts
June 07 2011 06:10 GMT
#6405
Cool thanks. Forgot to mention, the DVD drive is already mounted in the case.

Hmm so it says there are 6 x USB 2.0 Onboard. Does this mean that 2 more can be wired to the front or how does that work?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 07 2011 06:14 GMT
#6406
You're misunderstanding the specifications =p Having six onboard USB means that you can have up to six front usb ports. The back USB ports are listed under rear panel ports and there's only four of them.
NeonEpidemic
Profile Joined April 2011
United States7 Posts
June 07 2011 07:52 GMT
#6407
Hey guys, I have a quick GPU question.

How would an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 operate relative to SC2? How high would I be able to get the graphics without sacrificing too much frame rate, and how well would it handle duo monitors?
ragnasaur
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 10:03:50
June 07 2011 08:08 GMT
#6408
I was hoping you could help me with a new graphics card upgrade in my current rig to hold me over until my new computer(will always be useful in teh_future LANs o.O).
I'm looking to spend max $60

I've been leaning towards GTS250 or HD5670, but i dont know if they will be too powerful for my current set-up

I have an AMD Athlon 64 3500 @ 2.2GHz
2GB RAM
Thermalktake 450w butterfly PSU
VisionTek 256MB Radeon X1550

any suggestions?
| (• ◡•)| (❍ᴥ❍ʋ) George Forman doesnt have any fingerprints
geethy
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia67 Posts
June 07 2011 13:55 GMT
#6409
OK, I finally decided on what I'm gonna buy, all up $2200. Thanks to everyone that helped out with picking the right parts and stuff, this build seems a lot better than the original build that I put up. Here's the build for anyone interested:
+ Show Spoiler +
Intel Core i5 2500K- $219

G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL (2x4GB) DDR3- $95

ASUS GeForce GTX 570 DirectCU II 1280MB- $399

ASUS P8P67 Motherboard B3- $179

Antec High Current Gamer 750W Power Supply HCG-750- $149

SilverStone Raven RV02-E with window- $185

OCZ Agility 3 120GB SSD 2.5"- $259

Western Digital Green 2TB WD20EARX- $89

Saitek Cyborg R.A.T. 7 Gaming Mouse- $139

Das Keyboard Model S Professional- $139

TP-Link TL-WN951N Wireless N PCI Adapter- $39

ASUS VE248H 24" Widescreen LED Monitor- $225

LG GH22NS70 22x DVD-RW Drive Retail- $39

Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler Rev2- $29

Thanks again to everyone that helped, especially Womwomwom and JingleHell!!
'Money can't buy you happiness, but I'd rather cry in a Ferrari.'
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 07 2011 14:24 GMT
#6410
Awesome deals, 48 hours at newegg.

$45 Neo Eco 620w PSU AMIR w/ promo EMCKDKC29
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371031&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL060711&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL060711-_-EMC-060711-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-17371031-L03A

CX 430 v2 PSU@ $20 w/ promo EMCKDKC32
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL060711&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL060711-_-EMC-060711-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-17139026-L03B

4GB Gskill Ripjaw 1600 $34 w/ promo EMCKDKC22
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231313&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL060711&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL060711-_-EMC-060711-Index-_-DesktopMemory-_-20231313-L0B

And Crucial M4 128 GB SSD @ $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL060711&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL060711-_-EMC-060711-Index-_-SSD-_-20148442-L01D
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
June 07 2011 14:32 GMT
#6411
Don't forget the 1TB 7200 RPM hard drive for $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136767&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL060711&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL060711-_-EMC-060711-Index-_-InternalHardDrives-_-22136767-L0A
with promo code EMCKDKC74
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 14:37:27
June 07 2011 14:36 GMT
#6412
On June 07 2011 23:32 ensign_lee wrote:
Don't forget the 1TB 7200 RPM hard drive for $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136767&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL060711&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL060711-_-EMC-060711-Index-_-InternalHardDrives-_-22136767-L0A
with promo code EMCKDKC74


Yeah, I skimmed the storage after seeing the $60 Caviar Green 1TB.
DrakanSilva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Chile932 Posts
June 07 2011 16:31 GMT
#6413
add the pehnom 1090t in there, it kick ass for the price
In the beginning there was nothing... and then exploded
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 07 2011 16:36 GMT
#6414
On June 08 2011 01:31 Drakan wrote:
add the pehnom 1090t in there, it kick ass for the price


Nobody should be building on AM3 right now. All I see in my 48 hour deals is an 1100T for $180.

Unless you need 6 cores, (You don't if you have to ask) that deal is garbage for the price point compared to Intel offerings.
SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
June 07 2011 18:05 GMT
#6415
Looking through the Newegg 48 deal on PSU, can they be bottom mounted? Or reverse fan direction from exhaust to intake? What would be the better configuration for PSU?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
June 07 2011 18:13 GMT
#6416
Most cases should have the PSU bracket so you have to mount your PSU downwards. Ideally you'd have it mounted downwards so it sucks air from under the case so this is a good thing.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 19:24:53
June 07 2011 18:13 GMT
#6417
On June 07 2011 16:52 NeonEpidemic wrote:
How would an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 operate relative to SC2? How high would I be able to get the graphics without sacrificing too much frame rate, and how well would it handle duo monitors?


It'll be able to handle high smoothly. Having a second monitor for messaging, browsing, word processing, anything that's not gaming or graphic intensive has no impact on performance.

On June 07 2011 17:08 ragnasaur wrote:
I was hoping you could help me with a new graphics card upgrade in my current rig to hold me over until my new computer(will always be useful in teh_future LANs o.O).
I'm looking to spend max $60


5670 is your best option.

On June 08 2011 03:05 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
Looking through the Newegg 48 deal on PSU, can they be bottom mounted? Or reverse fan direction from exhaust to intake? What would be the better configuration for PSU?


What power supply are you referring to? The CX430 and Antec Neo? Both of those have intake fans and no you can't make them exhaust unless you open it up and change the fan yourself. Most if not all power supplies can be bottom mounted. Bottom mounting with fan facing down is the better method.
itsmay
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland14 Posts
June 07 2011 19:44 GMT
#6418
+ Show Spoiler [My first post] +
On June 07 2011 02:42 itsmay wrote:
Hey guys,

My computer is getting old (3-4 years) and I'm forced to play sc2 in low settings (or at max between low/mid) so I felt like it was the time to build a new one but.. I'm a total newbie with these kind of things.
I never built a computer before but this time I'm willing to spend some time learning how to do so.
Anyway, since I don't know much about where to start from, I found this little guide that you guys probably already know about :

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af150/The_FalconO6/CurrentLogicalPCBuyingGuide/Guide.png

But I already don't know which build I should be aiming for..

Basically, I'm looking to be able to run sc2 at max settings (since I don't think it requires that much of a good comp?) and stream + do others random things, no professional usage whatsoever.

I wish to be able to use it for 3 to 4 years (knowing of course that I will have to use medium to low settings for games by this time)

About my monitor.. I'm clueless, how should I know if there's a reason to upgrade it ? At the moment, I'm using a 22'' Philips 220WS8FB which is also 3-4 years old

I don't have a specific budget, I just want a build that meets what I'm looking for. I would guess/hope that it will be between 800-1000$ (without OS, mouse, keyboard, etc) (excellent-outstanding build on the guide?) I don't want anything "overkill" that I will have no use for anyway.


I apologize for being that much of a noob, I hope I'm not asking too much, I'm also sorry for my poor english (not my first language), hopefully it is still understandable.


I hope you guys can give me some answers and guide me a little bit in my way to build my first comp!
If you have any advice/warning, feel free to share aswell



Thanks skyR for the warning.


Could someone suggest me a build that would allow me to run sc2 smoothly on ultra/extreme settings ? (is there much of a difference between the two..?)

I'll answer the basic questions of the OP to make it easier :

What is your budget?
Between 1000 and 1400$ (including OS and monitor if needed)

What is your resolution?
As said in my first post, I'm actually using 22'' Philips 220WS8FB 1680x1050 but I'm wondering weither it is ok to keep it for the new comp or if I should get a new one for better results.

What are you using it for?
Also said in my first post but anyway : It is almost only for gaming and possibly do some streaming.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I don't plan on upgrading any time soon since I'm a noob, but once I get a little bit more used to it and parts get outdated I could try to get new ones, so in 2 years or so.

When do you plan on building it?
I would like to build it as soon as possible but if there's a really good reason to wait, it could be an option.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Again.. Since I'm a noob, I probably won't risk damaging my comp. Therefore, no overclocking for now. (Also I've read that you have to put some paste on the CPU (hope I'm not totally wrong..) if you want to do overclocking, I'd rather avoid that.)

Do you need an Operating System?
I will need one and sadly I don't think there's any good offers for swiss students

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
As before.. The "noob" argument is still applicable here. Therefore, no.

Where are you buying your parts from?
I'm from Europe/Switzerland
I haven't started looking for sellers though I know some swiss ones but they're overpriced I think.

Thanks in advance if anyone is kind enough as to help me for my first build



Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
June 07 2011 20:23 GMT
#6419
Wow that PSU deal sounds great! I don't have enough to buy everything right now but I might just buy that ahead of time. Looks like it should be enough for my build. 48A on the +12V should be sufficient.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 07 2011 20:32 GMT
#6420
On June 08 2011 05:23 Uhh Negative wrote:
Wow that PSU deal sounds great! I don't have enough to buy everything right now but I might just buy that ahead of time. Looks like it should be enough for my build. 48A on the +12V should be sufficient.


Both of those PSUs crop up in builds we give people here all the time. Those deals are smoking hot, just have to sign up for newegg email deals to be able to use the promo codes.
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