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On June 03 2011 16:18 XenOmega wrote:Oh, and quick question : HD 5830 : SAPPHIRE 100297L Radeon HD 5830 1GB Video Card, is on sale at 102.99$ I remember people saying that it was a good card when hitting the low price. Can I Xfire those? ^^ Oh, and what MOBO to get for a Xfire build with I5 SB? ty! 
Yes, you could do CrossfireX with a pair of 5830s but doing a multi-GPU setup with mid-range cards is not recommended.
5830 CrossfireX will be slightly worst than a single 6950 2GB.
Any motherboard with two PCIe x16 slots is capable of CrossfireX so even an entry board such as the Gigabyte Z68 D2H would work.
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What are the differences between :
Gigabyte H67M-D2-B3 mATX LGA1155 H67 DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 CrossFireX SATA3 Motherboard @ 77.99 (After 10 MIR)
Gigabyte H67MA-USB3-B3 mATX LGA1155 H67 DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 CrossFireX HDMI DVI USB3.0 Motherboard @ 101.99$ (After 10 mir)
Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 mATX LGA1155 Z68 DDR3 1PCI-E16 1PCI-E1 HDMI DVI SLI SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard @ 129.99$
Gigabyte P67A-UD3-B3 ATX LGA1155 P67 DDR3 3PCI-E1 2PCI 1PCI-E16 CrossFireX SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard @ 104.99 (After 20MIR)
Gigabyte H67MA-UD2H-B3 mATX LGA1155 H67 DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 CrossFireX SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard @ 109.99 (after 10MIR)
I guess there's no point in me listing all of the mobo -.-
They all seem very similar, with some being able to run 4 memory sticks, and some only 2. I guess the best would be to take those with 4.
What are the differences between Z68, H67 and P67?
The Z68 you suggested also can run Xfire at x16 x8 x4 (three way crossfire??). However, I believe I've read somewhere that the difference between X16/X8/X4 was minimal. True or false?
EDIT : Just found on Wikipedia about the differences between Z68/H67/P67. It would appear that the main difference is about their ability to overclock.
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H67 does not support overclocking but supports the use of integrated graphics.
P67 supports overclocking but does not support the use of integrated graphics.
Z68 supports both overclocking and use of integrated graphics.
I wouldn't recommend running Tri-fire with 1 card on 4x as the card running on 4x has a large performance loss compared to running it in 8x or 16x.
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It's not possible to do a x16 / x8 / x4 CrossfireX setup unless you manually force this in the BIOS or the manufacturer is retarded.
Only flagship boards are capable of supporting three way CrossfireX and these are the Big Bang Marshal, UD7, and Maximus Extreme. All of which run at x16 / x16 (x8) / x8 and cost $250 or more.
The difference between x4 x8 and x16 indeed is not something to worry about: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_5870_PCI-Express_Scaling/
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Hey guys, do you think it would be a better idea for me to get the super overclocked EVGA 560 ti over the regular EVGA 560 ti? It's only a 5 dollar difference however the super overclocked has a 10 year warranty compared to a lifetime of the other card which honestly shouldn't matter either. Any other things I should be aware of? Or are there any better cards at around the $250 mark? I can repost my other parts I plan on using if needed.
The ASUS ENGTX560 TI DCII TOP/2DI/1GD5 looks pretty nice as well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121425
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-KR only has a ten year warranty atm due to a promotion which is set to end at the end of this month. Standard -KR warranty is three years with the option of paying more to extend it.
If you don't care about warranty, the best GTX 560 Ti on Newegg right now is the Gigabyte one at $245 ($225 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363
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Should I care about warranty? I don't plan on overclocking my GPU any more than it comes from the factory.
I'm still not 100% settled on getting a 560 ti either but it seems like a good card for my budget.
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Should you care about warranty? I think that's a question that can only be answered by you =p
If you intend to play Starcraft II or any other game already released for the rest of your life than lifetime warranty will be useful. If your GTX 560 dies in five years, you're get it replaced with a GT950 or something equivalent to the performance of it.
If you intend to always play newer games, warranty honestly doesn't really matter.
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Anything past 3 year warranty is practically pointless for the majority of gamers. For the nutjobs, anything past 1 year is pointless.
Nutjobs in this case being the guys who buy every piece of hardware the day it releases.
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hi guys long time listener first time caller,
building a new computer with a $1000 budget
this is what i have so far:
Intel Core i5 2400
ASRock P67 Pro3 Motherboard B3
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti Overclocked 1GB
Kingston HyperX (2x2GB) DDR3
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB
Antec Neo Eco 450C 450W Power Supply
CoolerMaster Centurion 5 II
wants: 1920 x 1080 resolution
no over clocking
games; sc2 and diablo 3
last 2 years minimum
my main question is am i overdoing anything or under doing anything in particular?
current price of listed items is about $850 and this is a comfortable price for me and my defacto partner.
thanks
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That memory seems a bit overpriced, but you guys do seem to have some weird price stuff going on down in Australia, so I can't be sure.
Here, 4GB shouldn't be over $40 USD.
The actual parts list looks decent though. Maybe see if you can squeeze in a 60GB SSD for booting?
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If you're not overclocking than you can just get an H61 or H67 motherboard instead. The GTX 560 Ti is sort of overkill for Starcraft II and Diablo III, a GTX 560 would still be more than capable of handling both games on ultra at 1080p.
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On June 04 2011 13:01 skyR wrote:
If you're not overclocking than you can just get an H61 or H67 motherboard instead. The GTX 560 Ti is sort of overkill for Starcraft II and Diablo III, a GTX 560 would still be more than capable of handling both games on ultra at 1080p.
And that + a cheaper memory kit would definitely give budget leeway for a decent SSD for booting, and that's a huge quality of life upgrade. Not so much for gaming, but for day to day use, especially if you use any software that loads slow regularly, it's amazing.
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thankyou for the immediate feedback.
skyR could you please recommend a Motherboard and graphics card that would be appropriate with the rest of my listings
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Can you post which retailer(s) you are buying from so I can get an idea for pricing and what is available to you.
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@Skyr : 'Any motherboard with two PCIe x16 slots is capable of CrossfireX so even an entry board such as the Gigabyte Z68 D2H would work.'
Hmm, would the Z68 you recommend be my best option? Or should I settle with a P67? M-ATX or ATX? ^^
Also, my case is Azza solano. Do I need a new heatsink with the I5 core?
TY!
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I'm using stock heatsink for my AMD1055t
I doubt I'll add any sound/Network card -.- Using the integrated
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Hi guys,
I'm planning to make an upgrade in the next 2-3 weeks and I'm hoping if you guys could give me recommendations for a good build. I'll be using it as a gaming rig (SCII, D3 and maybe BF3) and for uni/college stuff. I can probably get the OS from a friend so that saves me $100 for parts
Budget: $1100 (Rig + Monitor)
Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Overclocking: Yes please, I'm looking to get the i5 2500k since I've heard its an easy OC and a very good one as well.
Extras: I'll need a Wireless N card, since the router is 2 rooms away from the desktop =(
I'll be getting my parts from PC Case Gear, and MSY. I'll be able to save shipping from MSY since I can just have it as pick up (Sydney)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php
http://www.msy.com.au/default.jsp
http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf
Thanks
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