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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
FearTheReaperMan
Profile Joined May 2011
154 Posts
May 18 2011 19:40 GMT
#5621
On May 18 2011 15:00 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 14:49 FearTheReaperMan wrote:
On May 18 2011 09:11 Myrmidon wrote:
More than enough. You're looking at just a little bit over 200W for the whole system, full load, at stock clocks. Those are some of the best price/performance and particularly performance/watt choices out there. It's crazy the computing and graphics power you can get on that wattage these days.


What does full load and stock clocks mean?

Does that mean, by not overclocking it ? ?


Yes, by stock clock I mean not overclocked. Most computer components use much more power when they're doing more work. So I mean that if you somehow max out the CPU and GPU to 100% utilization, you'll have the worst-case possible power consumption. And the worst case is going to be somewhere around 200W drawn by the computer from the power supply, assuming things aren't overclocked (very roughly, power consumption of a CPU or GPU is proportional to the clock speed and proportional to the square of the voltage, so overclocked/volted parts can use considerably more power).

Short answer is that the Earthwatts Green 380D is going to be plenty.



On the spec for the V-card it states that you need to have a t least a 500 watt power supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150505

Is that true ?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 18 2011 19:46 GMT
#5622
The manufacturer's power supply recommendations are a good margin above what is necessary to run the card along with the rest of the configuration because they have to account for the low quality power supplies found in prebuilts and for the billions of possible configurations.
FearTheReaperMan
Profile Joined May 2011
154 Posts
May 18 2011 19:50 GMT
#5623
On May 19 2011 04:46 skyR wrote:
The manufacturer's power supply recommendations are a good margin above what is necessary to run the card along with the rest of the configuration because they have to account for the low quality power supplies found in prebuilts and for the billions of possible configurations.



I just want to double/triple confirm it.. because I already order it, and Ill call them right now to cancel if it not enough. The Earthwatts Green 380D will be good? ^^
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 18 2011 19:52 GMT
#5624
Yes, the Earthwatts 380w is enough to power your configuration.

The 6850 only uses around 100w: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/radeon-hd6870-hd6850_9.html while the 2400 uses only around 55w: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i5-2500-2400-2300_10.html
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 18 2011 19:58 GMT
#5625
The unveiling of AMD's next generation platform is only a couple weeks away now. There is still no credible information regarding the performance of the Bulldozer CPU, but AMD's chipset capabilities have come into light thanks to Asus.

Important points to highlight from the table below:

  • Fully compatible with legacy CPUs: Phenom II and Athlon II (AM3) CPUs
  • DDR3-1866 Memory Dual-Channel - High bandwidth memory subsystem
  • 6+2, 8+2 power phases - Bulldozer might be extremely energy efficient, as we see literally over double the vrms on Sandy Bridge motherboards
  • x16 slots - Significant available bandwidth; on the sabertooth board pictured below, the configurations are described as "configurable as x16/x4/x8/x8, x16/x4/x16/NC"
  • 6 SATA3 ports
  • No LAN option from the chipset
  • USB3?


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starleague forever
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
May 18 2011 20:00 GMT
#5626
Hey I have a question.

Is the ASUS Radeon 6850 compatible H61M-P23 motherboard?

Thank you
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 18 2011 20:01 GMT
#5627
On May 19 2011 05:00 SoKHo wrote:
Hey I have a question.

Is the ASUS Radeon 6850 compatible H61M-P23 motherboard?

Thank you


Yes. Any PCI-E x16 graphics card is compatible with any motherboard with a PCI-E x16 slot.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 20:15:10
May 18 2011 20:03 GMT
#5628
On May 19 2011 04:58 a176 wrote:
  • 6+2, 8+2 power phases - Bulldozer might be extremely energy efficient, as we see literally over double the vrms on Sandy Bridge motherboards


Do you mean to say "not" energy efficient, since they're using more power phases? But I'm not sure if they are really using more phases. There's a 4+2 power design on the chart as well. Keep in mind that most of these models Asus is listing are from their more premium lineup--Pro, Evo, and above.

Anyway, earlier it was said that the 4 CPUs at launch would be a 95W TDP quad core, a 95W TDP hex core, a 95W TDP octo core, and a 125W TDP octo core.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 18 2011 21:14 GMT
#5629
On May 19 2011 05:03 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 04:58 a176 wrote:
  • 6+2, 8+2 power phases - Bulldozer might be extremely energy efficient, as we see literally over double the vrms on Sandy Bridge motherboards


Do you mean to say "not" energy efficient, since they're using more power phases? But I'm not sure if they are really using more phases. There's a 4+2 power design on the chart as well. Keep in mind that most of these models Asus is listing are from their more premium lineup--Pro, Evo, and above.

Anyway, earlier it was said that the 4 CPUs at launch would be a 95W TDP quad core, a 95W TDP hex core, a 95W TDP octo core, and a 125W TDP octo core.


no i meant the sb mobos have more, the p8p67 deluxe has 16+2 for example
starleague forever
Progamermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
United States79 Posts
May 18 2011 21:41 GMT
#5630
just curious... do some people pirate windows 7 here?
I'm the man.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 18 2011 21:54 GMT
#5631
On May 19 2011 06:14 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 05:03 Myrmidon wrote:
On May 19 2011 04:58 a176 wrote:
  • 6+2, 8+2 power phases - Bulldozer might be extremely energy efficient, as we see literally over double the vrms on Sandy Bridge motherboards


Do you mean to say "not" energy efficient, since they're using more power phases? But I'm not sure if they are really using more phases. There's a 4+2 power design on the chart as well. Keep in mind that most of these models Asus is listing are from their more premium lineup--Pro, Evo, and above.

Anyway, earlier it was said that the 4 CPUs at launch would be a 95W TDP quad core, a 95W TDP hex core, a 95W TDP octo core, and a 125W TDP octo core.


no i meant the sb mobos have more, the p8p67 deluxe has 16+2 for example


Oh okay, nevermind. I never really counted them on the higher-end 1155 motherboards, since say a Gigabyte P67A-UD3 or something similar has 4+1 phases and has no problem overclocking the processors stably to at least like 4.8 GHz.

The components and design of each phase are just as important or more important anyway. Maybe Asus is taking the "hey guys, you don't ****ing need 64 phases" route with this lineup.

I mean, we're talking about 8 whole x86 integer execution cores for the high-performance market segment with lots of L3 cache, a memory controller, etc. on 32nm. There's no way that takes less power than the quad-core hyperthreaded i7-2600k, even if Bulldozer is more efficient per core (by design it's got to be, but not such that a two-core module takes less power than a SB core).
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 18 2011 21:54 GMT
#5632
On May 19 2011 06:41 Progamermatt wrote:
just curious... do some people pirate windows 7 here?


Most people pirate it, get it through MSDNAA, or some other free / almost free alternative. I would say that very few tech-savvy users actually purchase an OEM copy for ~$100.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 18 2011 21:58 GMT
#5633
On May 19 2011 06:41 Progamermatt wrote:
just curious... do some people pirate windows 7 here?


But if you were going to ask how, you wouldn't want to do it in a forum post here, since that violates the commandments.

I'm probably one of the few computer literates who bought it, mostly due to hating piracy on principle, but that's a discussion (and the guaranteed to follow debate) for elsewhere.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
May 18 2011 22:19 GMT
#5634
If I had no other option, I would buy the OEM copy before pirating, since pirating an OS seems awkward to me (I know it works fine, but I wouldn't know how to explain to my parents how I managed to get a copy for free >.<). Of course, getting an upgrade pack for $30 with a .edu address would probably be my first line of action, since using an upgrade edition for a full installation is all but completely supported
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
May 19 2011 02:13 GMT
#5635
hey guys,

i have another problem. i'm stuck at a screen that says reboot and select proper boot device. i put in my cd already. Possible problems I was thinking is the CD is no good, the SATA cables are not attached properly to the CD/DVD drive. I've been trying to go back to the BIOS screen, but I can't seem to get back.

Thanks
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 19 2011 02:47 GMT
#5636
On May 19 2011 11:13 SoKHo wrote:
hey guys,

i have another problem. i'm stuck at a screen that says reboot and select proper boot device. i put in my cd already. Possible problems I was thinking is the CD is no good, the SATA cables are not attached properly to the CD/DVD drive. I've been trying to go back to the BIOS screen, but I can't seem to get back.

Thanks


So how did you attach the cables to the DVD drive? It requires two cables, one SATA power cable going to your PSU and one SATA data cable going to your motherboard.

You hit DEL to get into BIOS to set your boot device.
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
May 19 2011 02:50 GMT
#5637
Hey skyR,

it is definitely connected to the power since it opens, but I'm not sure whether it is attached to the motherboard correctly. I have it attached @ SATA1 port on the motherboard. I was trying to get into BIOS so that I could opt for a usb boot up, but everytime I try to get into BIOS, the "reboot and select proper boot device" phrase keeps repeating itself.
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 19 2011 02:58 GMT
#5638
You're not clicking DEL fast enough to enter BIOS than. You should have ample time between POST and the splash screen to enter BIOS before such a message appears.
wesbare
Profile Joined January 2011
United States35 Posts
May 19 2011 03:07 GMT
#5639
Piracy is unethical and completely unjustifiable. I did it as a teenager, and now refuse to do it as a hard-working, salary-earning adult. Don't pirate anything.
He Is Risen
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
May 19 2011 03:19 GMT
#5640
ahh ty your so awesome... I think something is wrong with the DVD... I bought a copy of windows 7 ~2 weeks ago, but they still haven't sent the hard copy, but they let me download an iso file, which I downloaded then copied to a dvd. Might have to just wait 1 week till the copy of windows 7 gets here. The motherboard says that the dvd drive is connect via sata 1, so that's a relief.
Thanks skyr
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