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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
March 02 2011 11:41 GMT
#3321
On March 02 2011 17:22 Anjuu wrote:
@skyR Cool, sounds like overclocking is the way to go!


Dude I heard the friggin overclock genie button can get you 4.5 GHz. A monkey can push that button on the motherboard. Sandy Bridge cpus are ridiculously easy to overclock. 5 GHz is not a fantasy when it comes to some i5 2500k and i7 2600k processors.

I regret not waiting for Sandy Bridge processor, but it's ok my current computer should be good for a while.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
March 02 2011 18:08 GMT
#3322
What does TL think of this mobo?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138298&cm_re=1155-_-13-138-298-_-Product

Should I go for it or just wait for ASUS mobos to hit newegg?
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 18:15:06
March 02 2011 18:13 GMT
#3323
@Anjuu

All the Intel SATA ports support RAID 0, 1, 5, and 10 (the light blue and white ports on ASUS, the black ports and white ports to the right on MSI). The Marvell SATA ports only supports RAID 0 and 1 (these are the dark blue ports on the ASUS, the white ports on the left of the black ports on MSI).

Do you know exactly what you want? Because all those boards are expensive (nearing the $200 mark)...

I disagree with having two PS2 ports as a plus. I much rather have more USB ports and have no PS2 ports at all.

The ASUS and MSI both have an EFI BIOS (graphical user interface and able to use mouse, faster boot time, and some other benefits) while the Gigabyte has a standard BIOS.

The MSI has on-board power and reset button while the ASUS has more USB3 headers.

The ASUS P8P67 lineup has a lot of issues (as you can see here by all the threads: http://hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=80) but maybe this is just because it is the most popular board. I have one myself and I regret not sticking to Gigabyte.

@Saturnize

Wait for other boards.

According to ASUS CSR, boards may not be available for sale until April / May as RMAs take priority over new purchases.
Anjuu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States57 Posts
March 02 2011 18:42 GMT
#3324
Thanks again. If I wanted to get crazy I'd get two 6GB/s SSD drives and Raid 0 them for Ludicrous Speed--though I couldn't see myself doing this for at a minimum 3 years and even then I'd say it's like a 10% chance of ever even happening. I guess it just seems like something worth having...just in case but I really shouldn't care about it.

I didn't really factor price in because most of the vendors aren't showing prices with them being recalled. $200 is probably my top range for a mobo, I'd rather spend maybe $150 or if possible a bit less.

I'm not sure how big of a factor the PS2 is. Before I strated trolling SC2 forum I would think it ridiculous to connect a keyboard or mouse with anything other than a USB but I've heard enough people say there are advantages with the PS2 that I want to at least have the capability.

Zerg kebabs, Zerg creole, Zerg gumbo, pan fried, deep fried, stir fried. There's pineapple Zerg and lemon Zerg, coconut Zerg, pepper Zerg, Zerg soup, Zerg stew, Zerg salad, Zerg and potatoes, Zerg burger, Zerg sandwich... That's, that's about it.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
March 02 2011 19:07 GMT
#3325
1155 motherboards popping up!

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59164&vpn=GA-H67MA-UD2H-B3&manufacture=Gigabyte

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=40000280&IsNodeId=1&Description=1155&name=Intel Motherboards&Order=BESTMATCH
starleague forever
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
March 02 2011 19:20 GMT
#3326
Its so exciting!
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 20:39:33
March 02 2011 20:39 GMT
#3327
I wouldn't think there's anything wrong about that Biostar TP67B+ other than it probably (?) still has the old SATA 3.0 Gbps port issue. It's Biostar, so customer support or updates may be not the best, but if it works, I don't think there's a need to wait. If it has the ports and features you need, go for it.
wolfhead
Profile Joined December 2010
23 Posts
March 03 2011 01:27 GMT
#3328
Hey guys,
I'm a complete noob at this and just recently started reading up about the topic - so I've come here for some help. I'll start off by answering the questions in OP:

What is your budget?
$1000ish, not over 1100
What is your resolution?
I use a LG Flatron W2053TQ and the max resolution is 1600x900
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 years sounds good for me
When do you plan on building it?
Soon. April 2011.
Do you plan on overclocking?
I do not plan on overclocking
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes, Windows7
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
I live in Toronto, Canada. So i’ll be looking at tigerdirect, newegg, Canada computers etc.

my budget for specific parts:
CPU: 200
Graphics card: 200

Is a build like this possible with a 1000 budget?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 03 2011 02:00 GMT
#3329
It's easily possible with a 1000 CAD budget. If you're willing to spend closer to 1100 (including the full OS cost, and tax+shipping), you can also get a smaller SSD to store the OS and most applications.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 02:50:02
March 03 2011 02:44 GMT
#3330
I need a gaming computer. I know that the most important things are the graphics card, processor, then Ram. I want to get high end cpu that can run big sc2 battles on the highest settings. I need to know what this techno jargon is for the different parts.

I want a dedicated high end GPU.
4-5, maybe more Gigs of RAM.
At least an i5, maybe an i7
High end heat sink and motherboard.
Everything else... I still don't know what they are, besides case of course.

My budget 1500$-2200$

My resolution Largish. Fairly wide and tall. I don't know the exact size nor have I decided on one.

I will be using it for... Gaming. I want to be able to play sc2 at the extreme graphics settings during big battles, lag free.

My upgrade cycle This will be my first dedicated gaming computer, and I don't plan on building another computer for a very long time. I plan on upgrading it once or twice every year or so, and after a while it won't even be the same computer, just a better one.

I plan on building it in... A few months. Maybe half a year. I'm flexible, so I can buy the certain parts when they drop in price.

Overclocking A little. I want to overclock slightly, but I would prefer it if the computer ran stupendously without going way beyond the "safe" zone.

OS Windows 7, if by the time I build this, they don't come out with a new windows version.

Adding a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? I don't know what this is asking. I wouldn't mind a second Gpu, and I am getting a highend motherboard anyway.

I plan on buying from... I live in the California bay area. I plan on buying from wherever the lowest price is, online. Frys and Best Buy are nearby.

Please help me understand the techno jargon for the specific parts so I can understand what I am actually buying.

As I buy more parts and upgrade, the parts I replace will still be pretty damn good, so I'll sell them, to help pay for the new upgrades.

Thanks!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 03 2011 03:03 GMT
#3331
If you don't know why you need a high-end motherboard, you don't need one. Likewise, you don't need an i7-2600k when a i5-2500k is just as good for gaming. You also don't need a high-end heatsink for overclocking a i5-2500k in the "safe zone," since they only take about 65W at full load at stock frequencies and voltage when you're not using the integrated graphics (much less than previous quad cores and hex cores that could really use the high-end cooling for high overclocks).

You also don't need more than one graphics card to run SC2 on extreme with high fps. Crossfire or SLI (running more than one graphics card in tandem to hopefully improve performance) isn't worth the driver and configuration hassles, and sometimes poor support in some games--especially if you're willing to upgrade the GPU whenever necessary.

Prices are unlikely to drop much in a few months and there's not going to be a new CPU or GPU really worth waiting for in that time frame, so you might as well buy in maybe a month whenever all the P67 motherboards are back in stock.

If you have a large budget, you may as well just spend the money on a new SSD, a better monitor, a nicer case, a high-end power supply built to last (think 8+ years), better peripherals, or something like that that will give some kind of benefit. If you get something like a high-end motherboard, what you're getting is a lot of ports, connectivity options, and features that you're not going to ever use.

I'm sure somebody can supply the techno jargon if necessary, but that kind of language is really only necessary when comparing between different parts (e.g. different power supplies). And it's not much worth comparing different parts until you're actually buying and know what the exact prices are at the moment of the exact models you're looking at.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 04:05:20
March 03 2011 04:05 GMT
#3332
@wolfhead

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $94 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222137/MICROSOFT/GFC_00599/)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271

Core i5 2300 @ $190
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57965

MSI P67A-C43 (B3) @ $120
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59096

MSI GTX 460 Hawk @ $180
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55409&promoid=1295

Mushkin 2x2GB 1333MHz cas9 @ $44
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55546&promoid=1295

Coolermaster CM690II Basic @ $70
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=49224

XFX Pro 650W Core Edition @ $78 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15180AC5100)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58295

Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB @ $83 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=25350DR0783)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=50895

Add in some DVD burner for $20.

The total comes to $879 before taxes and shipping. Add in 13% HST and you get a total of $993.27.
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
March 03 2011 13:22 GMT
#3333
@Myrmidon, I'm a little confused about the P67 motherboard situation. It seems there are some in stock; is there a reason to wait until the others (ASUS, etc) are back in stock? e.g., these are available:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138298&Tpk=p67 motherboard
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59096

I'm going to build a machine soon, and the mb situation is the only thing holding me back atm.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14902 Posts
March 03 2011 14:27 GMT
#3334
His point, was that it's unclear whether that's a motherboard that has been fixed so that the SATA 3.0 ports are ok or not
IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
March 03 2011 14:36 GMT
#3335
On March 03 2011 22:22 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
@Myrmidon, I'm a little confused about the P67 motherboard situation. It seems there are some in stock; is there a reason to wait until the others (ASUS, etc) are back in stock? e.g., these are available:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138298&Tpk=p67 motherboard
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59096

I'm going to build a machine soon, and the mb situation is the only thing holding me back atm.


Both of those have the B3 stepping. That means that they belong to the new generation where the SATA problem is fixed. You can buy those.
aka DTF-ZeRo
DoubleZee
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada556 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 14:44:33
March 03 2011 14:41 GMT
#3336
Hey guys, I'm building a new PC this saturday and need a build. Mainly looking for the best bang for my buck and a rig that will run cool and quiet while playing games on high settings.

My budget: ~$1000 - give or take,

My resolution: 1440x900 for now, going to buy a new screen when I find a good deal.

I will be using it for: Gaming...I want to be able to run Battlefield 3, SC2, Diablo 3, etc on ultra settings.

My upgrade cycle: Not sure, probably look to upgrade any weak parts in a year or two.

Overclocking: Maybe

Do you need an OS: No

Adding a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Not now, maybe add another when performence starts to suffer

I plan on buying from: NCIX.com
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14902 Posts
March 03 2011 15:56 GMT
#3337
Just look at the build posted like 5 posts ago by Skyr
You have like...the exact same requirements
DoubleZee
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada556 Posts
March 03 2011 16:33 GMT
#3338
Wow, we even live in the same city...haha thanks!
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
Zlack
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 18:25:33
March 03 2011 16:36 GMT
#3339
Hi here is the pc i plan to build can you give me some tips how to make the build better ?
my resolution 1920x1080
it's mostly for gaming and i paid for the psu and case more so i can use them in later builds
ASUS P8P67 R.3.0
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Mainboard/ASUS/P8P67_R.3.0/826320/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Mainboards&l2=Intel&l3=Sockel 1155
Gainward GeForce GTX 570 Phantom
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Grafikkarte/Gainward/GeForce_GTX_570_Phantom/802848/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Grafikkarten&l2=PCIe-Karten NVIDIA&l3=GeForce GTX
Corsair DIMM 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Speicher/Corsair/DIMM_8_GB_DDR3-1600_Kit/781776/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Arbeitsspeicher&l2=DDR3&l3=DDR3-1600
Intel® Core™ i5-2500K
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/CPU/Intel(R)/Core(TM)_i5-2500K/736394/?baseId=689417
Thermalright Silver Arrow RT
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Luefter/Thermalright/Silver_Arrow_RT/417270/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Prozessoren (CPU)&l2=CPU-Lüfter
Samsung HD204UI 2 TB
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Festplatte/Samsung/HD204UI_2_TB/666198/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Festplatten&l2=SATA&l3=3,5 Zoll
Crucial RealSSD C300 2,5" SSD 128 GB
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Festplatte/Crucial/RealSSD_C300_2,5_SSD_128_GB/251416/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Solid State Drives&l2=SATA&l3=2,5 Zoll
ASUS DRW-24B3ST
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Optisches_Laufwerk/ASUS/DRW-24B3ST/674762/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Laufwerke&l2=DVD-Brenner&l3=Serial ATA
SilverStone ST75F-G or Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1000W i get 40 euro off with the case
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Netzteil/SilverStone/ST75F-G/791738/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Stromversorgung&l2=Netzteile&l3=ab 750 Watt
Cooler Master HAF X RC-942-KKN1
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Gehaeuse/Cooler_Master/HAF_X_RC-942-KKN1/252386/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Gehäuse&l2=Big-Tower
DoubleZee
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada556 Posts
March 03 2011 16:41 GMT
#3340
On March 03 2011 13:05 skyR wrote:

MSI P67A-C43 (B3) @ $120
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59096


Mobo seems to the out of stock at the moment. Replacement ideas?
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
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