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Okay so im building a computer for a friend, what I have so far is:
Power Supply:
Corsair TX 750W PSU
ATX 12V V2.2, 80 Plus, Standard. 4x 6+2-pin PCIe, 8x SATA, 140mm Blæser
GPU:
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2GB GDDR5
PCI-Express 2.0, 2xDVI, HDMI, 2xmini-DisplayPort, 800MHz
CPU:
Intel Core™ i5 Quad Processor i5-2500K
3,3GHz, Socket LGA1155, 6MB, Boxed
Harddrive:
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB
7200RPM, SATA 3.0 Gbps, 3,5", 32MB Cache, 8.9ms
Case:
Cooler Master HAF 932 Big Tower Black
Fans: 1x 230mm Front, 1x 230mm Top, 1x 230mm Side, 1x 140mm Bag, Red LEDs
DVD:
Sony Optiarc DVD±RW burner AD-5260S
DVDRW 24x, DL, SATA, Bulk, Black
RAM:
2x Crucial DDR3 1333MHz 4GB, CL9
Non-ECC, 1.5V, 512Meg x 64, 240pin
Now for the motherboard, with the Intel recall and all, when can you get the "new" motherboards without the flaw?
And as far as I understand the flaw itself only affects the SATA 3Gb/s ports, and the ports are backwards compatiable right? i.e the harddrive can be connected to a 6 Gb/s port without problems although it will be run at 3 Gb/s?
If theres too long before the new motherboards are out, then this is what im thinking:
Gigabyte GA-H67MA-UD2H, Socket-1155
m-ATX, H67, DDR3, 2xPCIe(2.0)x16, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.0, VGA, DVI, HDMI, DP
So basically.. rate my pc, is everything compatiable, any bottlechokes etc?
Thanks a bunch for any help possible, all comments appriciated 
EDIT: Spelling is hard :<
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Yes the issue only affects the SATA 3GB/s ports. Sata 3GB/s and 6GB/s are backwards and forward compatible.
Motherboards began shipping to retailers this week. Some retailers (ex. Newegg) already has a few boards listed for sale.
You're spending too much on the power supply. A single graphic card setup doesn't need more than 500W and if you are going to stick to the TX series, you should get the TX v2 as it is the updated version of the original TX and has the same MSRP.
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Guess I'll wait for the motherboards =)
I'll change the power supply to a 650W TX v2 then I think, thanks a bunch for you help =)
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On March 04 2011 12:24 skyR wrote:
Shouldn't you want a storage drive if you are going to be doing video editing...?
Yeah, the plan is to get one or two 2TB internals, but I already have 2 1TB externals to work with at the moment.
On March 04 2011 12:38 Myrmidon wrote:
Case
Yeah, my main concern was really it's performance in terms of noise and keeping the parts cool... but it's hard for me to judge them too well. I think it looks pretty good too, I didn't want anything too crazy.
On March 04 2011 12:38 Myrmidon wrote:
Power Supply
I think I'll go with the Antec 650W, since it's only $80 and I've had trouble with power supplys in the past!
On March 04 2011 12:38 Myrmidon wrote:
Storage
I guess I'll hold off until the next gen of SSDs... I just want to make sure that I have the right setup to be able to accommodate the next generation.
I'm not really quite sure about the overclocking-- is it worth it for this build? I'm going to have a local shop that has helped me out in the past help me assemble the PC and they should be able to help me do that since I don't have much experience.
Thanks for the advice guys... much appreciated!
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Hi guys my computer just crapped out on me after 4 years and I have decided to build a new one and was wondering if you guys could help.
Im just looking to make the cheapest computer that can run sc2 on high-ultra. I already have a 1440 X 900 monitor and 4gb of ram. Everything else I will be purchasing and hoping to stay around $500-$700.
Can you guys please post some sample builds for me.
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I agree with skyR on the above build. That looks right to me.
If your old RAM was indeed DDR2 (it pretty much guaranteed is, if your computer has been running 4 years), you'd need DDR3 RAM, as mentioned, like this:
G.Skill 2 x 2GB DDR3 RAM @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231394
For a gaming build, particularly SC2, a Core i3-2100 would save some money for marginally worse performance. For high/ultra at 1440x900, the HD 5770 listed was also good enough, if you want to downgrade from the GTX 460.
Core i3-2100 @ $130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
@dox_:
As mentioned earlier, if you're worried about cooling, you don't need to be. You can always check temperatures after you've built a computer. If there are temperature problems, it's probably something wrong with a heatsink (bad installation, dust, etc.). If somehow case cooling isn't sufficient, you can replace fans or add extra ones in most cases. And it's not going to be insufficient unless you have some specialty build, like with multiple GPUs.
If you're really worried about cooling for some reason, I'd get the Antec 300 Illusion currently, which is at a decent price of $55. It has two intake 120mm fans, a 120mm back fan, and a 140mm top exhaust fan.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066
If you want something very quiet, you'd want a case with less mesh, less fans, etc. Of course, less noisy parts inside the case is important too.
Next-gen SSDs are probably not important, as performance in certain areas is already a couple orders of magnitude better than mechanical hard drives. Getting 2x performance or less at this point isn't such a big deal for most users, depending on how you look at it.
Overclocking the CPU may or may not be too useful, depending on how you use your CPU. The cost difference such that you can overclock is maybe $40 for the i5-2500k over something like a i5-2400, $20 for a P67 motherboard over a H67 motherboard, and maybe $30 for an aftermarket CPU cooler. If you're just gaming and not maxing out your CPU with something like video encoding all the time, I would just get cheaper parts and forget about overclocking. You could also really just get that Rosewill 430W unit (ATNG OEM) for $45 if you're not overclocking the CPU or GPU.
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skyR and Myrmidon thank you for the input I am very grateful. My ram was DDR2  , I guess I will just have to add that on to the cost of the pc. Hopefully I can get this computer built within the next month.
Thanks again
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I will probably be ordering a PC tomorrow, and 2 important things for me is power and longevity. So I would like to run all games from this year on max settings preferably, and in 2-3 years I was thinking overclocking the cpu/gpu and putting another graphics card in there for SLI, assuming that could run stuff that comes out in the future(is this even realistic?).
With this plan, is there any point to buying i7-2600k over i5-2500k, and what graphics card should I go for?
Thanks in advance!
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On March 06 2011 17:55 Ethenielle wrote:
I will probably be ordering a PC tomorrow, and 2 important things for me is power and longevity. So I would like to run all games from this year on max settings preferably, and in 2-3 years I was thinking overclocking the cpu/gpu and putting another graphics card in there for SLI, assuming that could run stuff that comes out in the future(is this even realistic?).
With this plan, is there any point to buying i7-2600k over i5-2500k, and what graphics card should I go for?
Thanks in advance!
I am getting a 2600k because of the support for hyper-threading. One day, our good programmers at the large software companies will begin writing better multi-threaded code, and having 8 threads as opposed to 4 will be amazing.
Until then though, it will help with a ton of tabs open in Chrome, and multi-tasking. :[
On another note, I am considering investing in a small home server. Honestly I don't have any good use for one but I'm going to have some extra money after a summer internship and I kind of want to have a server to mess around with. Does anyone have a recommendation for where I should start? Should I just build a pretty cheap i3-i5 system or should I go down the Xeon route?
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I am getting a 2600k because of the support for hyper-threading. One day, our good programmers at the large software companies will begin writing better multi-threaded code, and having 8 threads as opposed to 4 will be amazing.
I wouldn't wait for it, you'll probably be dead before a decent number of software developers start making properly threaded software.
On another note, I am considering investing in a small home server. Honestly I don't have any good use for one but I'm going to have some extra money after a summer internship and I kind of want to have a server to mess around with. Does anyone have a recommendation for where I should start? Should I just build a pretty cheap i3-i5 system or should I go down the Xeon route?
Depending what you are doing with it. I'm running Windows Home Server, which backs up files, holds all of my work files, operates as a bittorrent client, and as a media streaming server, and I'm using a simple Athlon II X2.
You're not enterprise, you don't need high end parts.
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On March 06 2011 19:44 Womwomwom wrote:Show nested quote +I am getting a 2600k because of the support for hyper-threading. One day, our good programmers at the large software companies will begin writing better multi-threaded code, and having 8 threads as opposed to 4 will be amazing. I wouldn't wait for it, you'll probably be dead before a decent number of software developers start making properly threaded software.
We can always hope. I'm learning in my operating systems how much of a pain in the ass it can be to debug, but it is almost ridiculous how non-standard writing multi-threaded code is.
Show nested quote +On another note, I am considering investing in a small home server. Honestly I don't have any good use for one but I'm going to have some extra money after a summer internship and I kind of want to have a server to mess around with. Does anyone have a recommendation for where I should start? Should I just build a pretty cheap i3-i5 system or should I go down the Xeon route? Depending what you are doing with it. I'm running Windows Home Server, which backs up files, holds all of my work files, operates as a bittorrent client, and as a media streaming server, and I'm using a simple Athlon II X2. You're not enterprise, you don't need high end parts.
It will probably be primarily a backup and media server, but I also kind of want it to be a little playground. I'm likely going to set up Ubuntu on it and use it as an SSH server, and maybe tool around with SQL on it. It would be really helpful in some of my classes if I was able to this kind of stuff.
I'm also open to the idea of just putting Windows Home Server on it, instead of Ubuntu if that seems like a better idea.
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I think Ubuntu is probably not the right distro for these things. I'm sure there are other specialized builds better for use as a media server, though I don't have any experience with any of those. I agree that you definitely don't need high-end parts though.
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On March 07 2011 03:00 Myrmidon wrote:
I think Ubuntu is probably not the right distro for these things. I'm sure there are other specialized builds better for use as a media server, though I don't have any experience with any of those. I agree that you definitely don't need high-end parts though.
Ubuntu has a separate server-oriented distribution here: http://www.ubuntu.com/server
I'm not sure if it is the most efficient route to go, but considering Ubuntu's usability and compatibility, I would say is is probably the easiest.
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I want to use the PC for everything I need it for(watch movies, listen to music, play games, and art). I game a little TTA, SC2, DWO, Uncharted Waters, fighting games, and free MMORPGs.. My 8400 GS can't run SC2 well and I get lag sometimes playing offline fighting games. I do stuff Adobe Lightroom 3, Photoshop CS3, Indesign CS3, Illustrator CS3, SAI, OpenCanvas, and XSI daily.
Operating System - Windows XP Professional
Resolution - 1920 x 1080
My budget was $500, but I think I'm going to have to extend it to like 600. I plan to use this PC for at least four years.
Motherboard - BIOSTAR A780L3L AM3 AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138290
$50
I had a gigabyte mobo in mind, but ddr3 memory is cheaper than ddr2. The cons for the biostar mobo is related to BIOS. I don't know if I should put to much
CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808
$140
GPU - EVGA 01G-P3-1372-RX GeForce GTX 460 SuperClocked Video Card (Refurbished)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7281772&sku=E145-0483
OR
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7281793&CatId=3585
$150
I am not to keen on buying used items, but GTX 460 1GB seem like good deal. Should I get one year, or two year warranty?
Drive - Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
$65
Optical Drive -
$18 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=27-106-276&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=2#scrollFullInfo
OR
$20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106344
I don't know which to get.
RAM - G. SKILL 2 x 2 GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231394
$40
Please don't suggest 8GB because my current PC is 4GB and I can run the imaging/photo software fine.
PSU - Need a PSU recommendation.
Case - Rosewill R101-P-BK 120mm Fan MicroATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147112
$30
Total $495
Do I need anything else?
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@Devil Trigger
If you can spend up to $600 and are going to be using the computer that long, I would invest in a Core i5-2xxx. You also might want USB3, which compatible motherboards have and the Biostar in the original build does not.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130587
You want a SATA DVD drive, like the first one you linked or this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118031
@Alabasern
I'm agreed about a i5-2500k and P67 motherboard, as well as the hard drive. If you were worried about case cooling for the build and overclocking, you don't need to be. At current prices, this Antec 300 Illusion for $55 is probably a lot better than the 900 for $100. Most any case is fine for your HD 6870 system though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066
With some very heavy overclocking, a i5-2500k and a HD 6870 along with everything else isn't going to draw 400W (probably a little less in the worst case), so the PSU is overkill. The EA650 is not bad, but for $85 there is much better. As mentioned, the current price on the TruePower New 650W (semi-modular, much better performance) is $80:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371021
As long as you're not stress testing nonstop with high overclocks, and you end up not getting the Phenom II X4, you could go as low as this Rosewill Green Series 430W safely (ATNG OEM with Teapo capacitors, so nothing amazing or bad either):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182202
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I'm looking to build my first computer and could use some advice. I can go up to 950$ but would really like to stay under the 900$ limit.
So far I've found these parts:
CPU - Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor (Model:BX80605I5760)
but would upping that to the i5 -2500k be worth it for the +.5 Ghz?
Mobo - GIGABYTE LGA 1156 Intel P55 USB 3.0 ATX Motherboard (Model:GA-P55-USB3)
The motherboard is one thing thats really confusing me. I know i need an Intel with an Intel CPU and im going to use my TV as a monitor so somehow and HDMI port is necessary.
Memory - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (Model:F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL)
I figured 4g of RAM would be good to start.
Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (Model:ST31500341AS)
The cheapest model i could find. I read that Caviar black HDDs are really only good for the warranty.
Case- RAIDMAX Quantum Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (Model:ATX-798WB)
A good case, I'm not sure if it can fit the video card though.
PSU - Antec TruePower New 650W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified
I constantly read that 650W is not necessary for just one video card. would 550 to 500 be fine? I'd prefer to stick to Corsair because i hear they're the best.
Video Card - HIS H687F1G2M Radeon HD 6870 1GB
This seemed to be a good one. I'm looking for one that could easily run SC at max and Crysis 2 at High.
OS - Windows 7. I'd like to pirate it, but i'm not confident in my ability to do so.
My main concern is with the motherboard's compatibility with the Video card. Is the PCI 2.0 Express slot able to run the video card?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've been struggling to make any major decisions on this.
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