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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20333 Posts
One more question can I reuse my current cooler (socket 1156), I mean does it fit on the new socket in regard to the holes on the board? If yes I can simply reuse my old one. What's your current cooler and what kind of OC are you trying to achieve? Sockets 1156, 1366 and 1155 (at least sandy bridge on 1155) were much less reliant on cooling than haswell on 1150 | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
All of those have the same mounting holes for coolers (square 75mm spacing), so coolers compatible with 1156 work for them all. If you don't have Sandy Bridge / Ivy Bridge-level expectations for overclocks, you don't really need that good cooling for Haswell. You can reuse the old cooler. It's just that if you want better overclocks, you need better cooling. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20333 Posts
If you don't have Sandy Bridge / Ivy Bridge-level expectations for overclocks, you don't really need that good cooling for Haswell. I think the gap between sandy and ivy in terms of cooling requirements was a lot more pronounced than ivy to haswell. Haswell has crazy temps in some synthetic situations, but if you look at real load temps such as x264, it's definately significantly cooler per FPS output That is, it's 17% faster, but you only have to clock it 100 or 200mhz lower. The big shock comes though from people using 1'st/2'nd gen cpu's, who suddenly have like 30c pop out of nowhere from the slightly hotter trend and the die<>IHS heat transfer issues. With such CPU, stock cooler runs too hot, and there's not much point getting anything short of a strong midrange cooler like a hr.02 macho, i said that with ivy and it's more true with haswell | ||
pachi
Melbourne5338 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Questionnaire] + What is your budget? $1500 What is your resolution? 1920x1080 (Have second monitor) What are you using it for? Dota 2, Fighting Games, Maybe streaming What is your upgrade cycle? 5 Years When do you plan on building it? Within the next month Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? Included Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Where are you buying your parts from? http://www.pccasegear.com (AU) + Show Spoiler [My Build so far] + Intel Core i5 4570 $229.00 ASRock B85M-PRO4 Motherboard $92.00 G.Skill Ares F3-1600C10D-16GAO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 $165.00 Samsung 840 EVO Series 120GB SSD $129.00 Western Digital WD Green 2TB WD20EZRX $102.00 Antec Neo Eco 520C 520W Power Supply $79.00 Powercolor HD7950 Boost State V5 3GB $279.00 Nanoxia Deep Silence 2 Dark Black Case $109.00 Microsoft Windows 8 64bit OEM $115.00 LG EA53V-P 23in LED IPS Widescreen Monitor $192.00 Total $1,491.00 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Fatta
Germany148 Posts
I might keep it and see how much overclocking I can do with it. If it does not satisfy me I will buy a new one. Any more recommendation on the graphics card? | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
Or should I just get a H87 board and get 1600Hz RAM with CL7 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On August 20 2013 16:01 pachi wrote: Just looking for any advice or suggestions before I get a new pc to replace my 5+ year old one + Show Spoiler [Questionnaire] + What is your budget? $1500 What is your resolution? 1920x1080 (Have second monitor) What are you using it for? Dota 2, Fighting Games, Maybe streaming What is your upgrade cycle? 5 Years When do you plan on building it? Within the next month Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? Included Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Where are you buying your parts from? http://www.pccasegear.com (AU) + Show Spoiler [My Build so far] + Intel Core i5 4570 $229.00 ASRock B85M-PRO4 Motherboard $92.00 G.Skill Ares F3-1600C10D-16GAO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 $165.00 Samsung 840 EVO Series 120GB SSD $129.00 Western Digital WD Green 2TB WD20EZRX $102.00 Antec Neo Eco 520C 520W Power Supply $79.00 Powercolor HD7950 Boost State V5 3GB $279.00 Nanoxia Deep Silence 2 Dark Black Case $109.00 Microsoft Windows 8 64bit OEM $115.00 LG EA53V-P 23in LED IPS Widescreen Monitor $192.00 Total $1,491.00 As Skyr said, go down to 8g ram (4gx2) and put those funds into a 4670. | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
On August 20 2013 17:21 Blaec wrote: As Skyr said, go down to 8g ram (4gx2) and put those funds into a 4670. I'd consider a bigger SSD honestly, but to each their own. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
What is your budget? Soft budget of $2000 What is your resolution? 1920x1080 (Have second monitor) What are you using it for? Games, like to multitask with a lot of stuff open at once, maybe streaming What is your upgrade cycle? 5 Years When do you plan on building it? Within the next month Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? Plan to get Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit (Is 8 really worth the hassle of tweaking it with 3rd party software?) Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg's Malaysian branch / Amazon for newer parts which cannot be found in local stores, otherwise local retailers. Build so far: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ NCIX US) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H87-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Trident X 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($169.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($182.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($403.99 @ SuperBiiz) Case: Corsair 650D ATX Mid Tower Case ($159.99 @ Newegg) Total: $1236.94 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-20 04:43 EDT-0400) I already have the 840 EVO ssd. Need help figuring out what kind of power supply I need and if this build is ok. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Rosewill Capstone 450 is sufficient for the build: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 16gb of memory is unnecessary and severely overpriced at $170. A 2x8gb 2400MHz kit is $120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226425 edit: Oh Malaysia, it's hard to recommend without knowing availability and pricing. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On August 20 2013 17:57 skyR wrote: Do you need something specific from that motherboard? It doesn't make sense to spend over $100 for a H87 when you can get a Z87 board which allows overclocking at that price point. And a 4670k is only ~$10 more expensive than a 4670. Rosewill Capstone 450 is sufficient for the build: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 16gb of memory is unnecessary and severely overpriced at $170. A 2x8gb 2400MHz kit is $120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226425 edit: Oh Malaysia, it's hard to recommend without knowing availability and pricing. Only Z87 board close to that pricepoint I can find is the MSI z87-g41, which I could swap in. It's my first desktop build though, and with 0 experience in overclocking and no room for failure financially, I just don't feel comfortable doing it just yet. How big a deal is cas latency? Coz that was the only CL7 1600Hz RAM I could find (confined my searches to 1600 coz of the H87 board, is 2400Hz CL9 RAM better if I get the MSI z87?) EDIT: I just did some searching around and I realised that I could fit in 2400 CL10 RAM in the MSI z87 board instead, same GSkill Trident series, same price exactly. Worth it? Thanks for the PSU recommendation. Appreciate it. | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On August 20 2013 17:22 Aylear wrote: I'd consider a bigger SSD honestly, but to each their own. Yeah either is a good investment, depends on priorities. | ||
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
not sure if you can add the -10$ for new customers. | ||
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ShangMing
Canada106 Posts
I have no experience in building computers or even hardware in general, but I'm considering doing one for school this September. However, I'm mostly looking at just getting 3 monitors to connect to my laptop right now, and build the computer in January if I can, so that I have more time to do research and price drops may happen. I'm using an MSI-GX640 (link: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-MSI-GX640-i5447LW7P-Notebook.30776.0.html) which costed me $1400 about 3 years ago. It has a Radeon HD 5850 and remaining specs found in the link. So my question is: do you think this laptop can handle 3x 1920x1080 for general work/productivity? If so, recommendations for monitors would be appreciated (I hear the MLG BenQ ones are good?), and other things I would need to take into consideration if I do buy them. Thanks | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Your laptop only has a HDMI and VGA so you wouldn't be able to run three monitors. | ||
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ShangMing
Canada106 Posts
I'm interested in the BenQ's mostly for the portrait orientation and 2ms response time for playing osu. Also, I can't seem to find those dell monitors at those prices at the usual stores (amazon, mem-ex, ncix, newegg). Given my subpar knowledge of monitors, I'm thinking I probably won't notice the difference between those and BenQ ones anyway? The 24" ones are $190 at mem-ex right now (link). Should I settle for 2 of these or are you saying that a $120 monitor would have comparable performance? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
This is $100 just for today: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=79926&promoid=1146 A very good value for a basic monitor if you can live with the shitty stand. Better viewing angles, better contrast, just a better picture overall than a TN monitor. Dell Ultrasharps all use a fully adjustable stand. You're going to notice the difference between an Ultrasharp and a TN monitor regardless of your monitor knowledge. You are shooting yourself in the foot if you buy a 60Hz TN monitor for more than $140. Dell U2312HM is currently $190: http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-2807 Was $180 a few weeks ago and $170 a month ago. Two monitors is possible with HDMI and VGA. | ||
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