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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19203 Posts
July 29 2010 20:20 GMT
#301
On July 30 2010 04:55 R04R wrote:
http://www.microsoft.com/student/en/us/windows/buynow/default.aspx

^
Windows 7 Professional for $30

I recommend checking your University's site first. For example, Drexel University has partnerships with some retailers that let you get 7 pro for $11 (what I did). I doubt Drexel is the only university that does this.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Bx_Kaotik
Profile Joined July 2010
United States12 Posts
July 29 2010 20:31 GMT
#302
Hey R04R i clicked on link u send me in pm to add the motherboard and processor. i tried to add the motherboard to cart like u said but it does not let me. says only in store pik up. will i be able to get that bundle u mentioned by goin to the store?
darkponcho
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States262 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 22:04:37
July 29 2010 22:04 GMT
#303
So my microcenter has the cm hyper 212 plus out of stock, and it's out of stock everywhere for the price of $30 cept newegg which strangely has it for $50. Coolermaster said another shipment should be going out next week, so should I wait till next week to build my computer? Or if I get a different heatsink at my local microcenter I can build it this sat.
http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?page=2&N=4294966927 4294963452 4294959003&Ns=P_RetailPrice&Nso=Ascending&sht=Any&prt=NewProduct&
^any of those that will fit a phenom 965 + thermaltake element g case with this motherboard
motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130278
>< thanks.
life
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 23:05:57
July 29 2010 22:56 GMT
#304
[image loading]


Trying to pack in some muscle on the cheap here. The E5400 seems a little old / weak, but the price is certainly hard to beat for the CPU, mobo, RAM trio. Any comments?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 30 2010 00:15 GMT
#305
You can slightly downgrade your case, slightly upgrade your CPU, get an extra PSU, and save a little money with this combo instead. I'm not going to comment on whether or not such a deal is worth it, though. No blood (bad advice) on my hands.
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
July 30 2010 01:41 GMT
#306
The package I have has DDR3 RAM as opposed to DDR 2 in your package. I'm really not sure what the difference in performance would be.

But it's actually cheaper than my current package and my intuition is that an increase in CPU power is more valuable than DDR3 vs DDR2 RAM.

I'm not sure what the case difference is either. If my original case were substantially quieter, that would influence my decision.

All in all a good find though. An extra PSU is never a bad thing to have (though my build wouldn't be quite comfortable with 430 cheap Watts)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
July 30 2010 02:24 GMT
#307
The GPU in my deal just sold out. That's very unfortunate. I guess I'll go to bed and keep an eye out for some sweet deals over the coming weekend and see if I can't build the computer this well this weekend
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
July 30 2010 02:33 GMT
#308
On July 29 2010 18:31 Bx_Kaotik wrote:


Memory: 89 after 10 dollar off promo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

.

Thanks for the heads up! just slipped this in and ordered for a total of
<950 i got phenom ii x4 255, 4gb gskill ripjaw, gtx 260 1gb, 1tb spinpoint f3, 550w psu, antec 300 and an asus 1080p 2ms monitor

Will report back when all the parts come in and i'm really excited and confused!
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
July 30 2010 02:33 GMT
#309
Any feedback on this? It's a lot more powerful than what I need it for, but I figure this will last me about 5 years...

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=18279607
Dohrann
Profile Joined July 2010
United States7 Posts
July 30 2010 02:44 GMT
#310
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Heres what I have so far. I am thinking a monitor along the lines of: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009263

Which would bring my grand total to around $1158. For this setup in my opinion is not that bad. I wanted to keep it around $1k unless it wasn't that necessary for gaming. I wanted the 6G DDR3 Ram for "future proofing" possibility, and I tried to get a power supply that would allow me to overclock in the future if I desire. I am saving up for this now and if cuts can be made to the price without losing to much of the ability to perform, that would be great. Any suggestions, pros, cons, comments from the team liquid community would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

"Epic!~"
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11562 Posts
July 30 2010 03:09 GMT
#311
azndsh: why not get this RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311
It's a lot cheaper, and RAM speed really doesn't matter that much

I would also recommend against the Kingston SSDNow V series because it uses the old JMicron controller, just with more cache to fix the stuttering. It really doesn't perform as well as other SSDs, and you would be better off with a 60GB Agility 2/Force/Inferno/Phoenix/Vertex 2 drive.

Dohrann: That RAM is not great with your build. You should get this if you are concerned about RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311
It's an 8GB kit for less than your 6GB.

The Freezer Pro 7 is a decent heatsink, but I think you should go with the better Scythe Mugen Rev 2 if you're in the market for a $35 heatsink.

You really don't need the Corsair 750W. You could just as easily go with a 450W and be totally fine. Keep in mind that your motherboard does not support SLI though.

That motherboard is useless for you. Get a cheaper 870 chipset motherboard. It will perform well, and it will cost less.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.436925
Combo with your CPU for $20 less.

You may want to spend the extra money and upgrade to a 1TB Samsung F3 because the Caviar Greens do not do well as boot drives.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Dohrann
Profile Joined July 2010
United States7 Posts
July 30 2010 03:37 GMT
#312
On July 30 2010 12:09 FragKrag wrote:
Dohrann: That RAM is not great with your build. You should get this if you are concerned about RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311
It's an 8GB kit for less than your 6GB.

The Freezer Pro 7 is a decent heatsink, but I think you should go with the better Scythe Mugen Rev 2 if you're in the market for a $35 heatsink.

You really don't need the Corsair 750W. You could just as easily go with a 450W and be totally fine. Keep in mind that your motherboard does not support SLI though.

That motherboard is useless for you. Get a cheaper 870 chipset motherboard. It will perform well, and it will cost less.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.436925
Combo with your CPU for $20 less.

You may want to spend the extra money and upgrade to a 1TB Samsung F3 because the Caviar Greens do not do well as boot drives.


Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341022 Its a little over 450, but in case I add something later that needs the extra, I'l have it, and for the price this one looks very nice.

That motherboard combo'd with the CPU would not support an 8GB kit for lack of slots, am I correct? What would you recommend that has the necessary slots that isn't to much "overkill"?

As for the drive, a full TB of memory is not really needed. So I added the 500g Samsung F3.
"Epic!~"
Bx_Kaotik
Profile Joined July 2010
United States12 Posts
July 30 2010 03:37 GMT
#313
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.450372

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.445409

Which combo would be best? dont know which hd 5770 is better the gigabyte or asus.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11562 Posts
July 30 2010 03:50 GMT
#314
Bx_Kaotik: the Gigabyte looks cooler, go for the gigabyte

Dohrann, not sure what you're talking about. That motherboard has 4 RAM slots so it supports up to 16GB.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 03:56:17
July 30 2010 03:53 GMT
#315
azndsh: on a practical rather than price/performance note...do you have a plan for how you are mounting or installing the SSD? Also, are you sure that in the next X years of you using the computer, you won't want a PCI-E card of any type? It looks like the 5850 would take the main PCI-E x16 slot and cover up the only x1 slot too on that Micro-ATX motherboard.

Dohrann: FragKing's mobo selection has 4 slots as usual, and all 8 GB of RAM he linked only takes up 2 of those slots. It's fine.

By the way, what do you want the Turtle Beach Montego for? What's your sound setup and intended use? Those motherboards can already output 7.1. If you're looking to improve sound quality for some high-end headphones or speakers, there are better options available for not much more money. The difference in sound quality between high-end motherboards and low-end sound cards is not so great anymore, unless one is picking up noticeable EMI and the other is not. Also, if you're using digital audio out, there should be no difference between the two. In most cases I would recommend either going with audio out of the motherboard or upgrading to something better.
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
July 30 2010 04:02 GMT
#316
I love this thread and the people who are helping out. You guys are awesome.

I want to get a new computer that can:
1) Run SC2
2) Stream stuff (i.e. SC2)
3) Do some media production (Pro Tools/Ableton/Adobe Suite)

Budget: $800
Resolution: I like 1680x1050 but it isn't too big a deal for me
Usage: See above
Upgrade Cycle: ~2-3 years?
Building: Within the next few months or so. Still need to save up some money...
Overclocking: No
OS: Will need to buy Win7 -_-
2nd GPU: Not sure. I'll go with no for now.
Purchase: There is a local microcenter near me, yay!

My only experience in building computers was a long, long time ago when I tried to install another hard drive back in the 90's or so (and that didn't turn out too well), so I'd really appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks!
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 04:06:26
July 30 2010 04:04 GMT
#317
thanks for the feedback, I'll get one of the newer SSDs and doing some more research on RAM and motherboard.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
July 30 2010 04:23 GMT
#318
On July 30 2010 12:50 FragKrag wrote:
Bx_Kaotik: the Gigabyte looks cooler, go for the gigabyte

Dohrann, not sure what you're talking about. That motherboard has 4 RAM slots so it supports up to 16GB.

gigabyte doesn't offically support over voltage, asus does along with having vrm heatsink. Although if you leave it at stock 10 bucks cheaper and would probably cool just as well, 5770 is not really a hot chip.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
July 30 2010 04:27 GMT
#319
I wouldn't really recommend more then 4gigs of ram unless you do high resolution video editing/photo editing, do rendering of some sort CAD's or do folding something like server hosting something along the lines that will take up a large portion of your ram. Most programs are 32bit and are bounded and made within the restrictions of 3.2gig limit even when running in a 64bit environment.

Ram is easy to upgrade and usually you have extra slots so adding 4 gigs of ram is alot easier and cheaper then removing a gpu or something and fully replacing it.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 04:36:50
July 30 2010 04:34 GMT
#320
On July 30 2010 11:33 azndsh wrote:
Any feedback on this? It's a lot more powerful than what I need it for, but I figure this will last me about 5 years...

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=18279607

No point in going H55 mobo when you're using an I7-860, also i'd recommend against using a Green drive as your main drive, that WD barely maintains 80mb/s full run and only brusts up to 100mb/s in reads

Buy 4 gigs of ram instead of 8 and get yourself a cpu cooler or something the 5850 is quiet when running intel's stock cooler is far from that believe me you'll like quieter pc, along with it will give you headroom to OC and let your cpu last longer. With that extra money i'd get a higher quality PSU, OCZ ModXStream Pro are fine when you're being cheap but like most enthusiast i like to have a good quality psu esp if you oc.

In other words i'd free up money and use only 4 gigs of ram saving like 70-80 bucks and spend it on a better mobo something in the 130 range and a cpu cooler something in the 30 buck range and use the rest to see if i can get a better psu.
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