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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
gchan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States654 Posts
July 30 2010 04:50 GMT
#321
He's getting a SSD drive in addition to his Green drive. With that being said, the Intel X25 or OCZ Vertex 2 are the only way to go. Check out the anandtech link in the OP and look at the forums for info on SSDs.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
July 30 2010 04:59 GMT
#322
intel x25 or ocz vertex 2 is if you want to sell your left nut to get a drive, you only need one that will fit your storage needs depending on how many games he has installed and the os he probably wants something around the 40gb+ range and all an extensive drive does usually is do better in sustained speeds esp in writes which isn't too important.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
July 30 2010 05:02 GMT
#323
Vertex 2 doesn't really offer much over the Agility 2. Might as well go for the Agility 2 since it is generally cheaper.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 05:48:19
July 30 2010 05:45 GMT
#324
On July 30 2010 05:31 Bx_Kaotik wrote:
Hey R04R i clicked on link u send me in pm to add the motherboard and processor. i tried to add the motherboard to cart like u said but it does not let me. says only in store pik up. will i be able to get that bundle u mentioned by goin to the store?


http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0325874 955 processor
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0342511 785g-e53 mobo
Yeah the deal is only in-store pickup

ALL FEATURED AMD® BOXED PROCESSORS and MOTHERBOARDS LIMIT ONE PER HOUSEHOLD /
IN-STORE ONLY
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Bx_Kaotik
Profile Joined July 2010
United States12 Posts
July 30 2010 06:13 GMT
#325
yea thanks R04R i reserved it for pick up.
Does anyone think a 550 watt power supply is enough for a ati hd 5770 card?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.445409

So far this is best money saving bundle i can find.

darkponcho
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States262 Posts
July 30 2010 06:19 GMT
#326
On July 30 2010 15:13 Bx_Kaotik wrote:
yea thanks R04R i reserved it for pick up.
Does anyone think a 550 watt power supply is enough for a ati hd 5770 card?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.445409

So far this is best money saving bundle i can find.



If you plan to add another card and crossfire, you'll need 600+, if it's just that card, the 965, and your ram then you're fine
life
Bx_Kaotik
Profile Joined July 2010
United States12 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 06:29:30
July 30 2010 06:27 GMT
#327
[/QUOTE]

If you plan to add another card and crossfire, you'll need 600+, if it's just that card, the 965, and your ram then you're fine [/QUOTE]

Nice thanks, hope everything comes quick. im dyeing to get off this macbook
O and im a complete noob to forums so i cant quote right
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 06:47:10
July 30 2010 06:45 GMT
#328
Yes, 550 watts is more than enough for the 5770. The mobo only has 1 PCI-E 2.0 x16 slot, so you won't be able to crossfire/sli.

If you want to have crossfire in the future you'll have to change the mobo for something that has 2 slots.

But 1 5770 should be enough for at least 2-3 years I'd say. The only reasonable upgrade from there is a 470 or 5850 or better.
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R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 30 2010 07:14 GMT
#329
On July 30 2010 13:02 d3_crescentia wrote:
I love this thread and the people who are helping out. You guys are awesome.

I want to get a new computer that can:
1) Run SC2
2) Stream stuff (i.e. SC2)
3) Do some media production (Pro Tools/Ableton/Adobe Suite)

Budget: $800
Resolution: I like 1680x1050 but it isn't too big a deal for me
Usage: See above
Upgrade Cycle: ~2-3 years?
Building: Within the next few months or so. Still need to save up some money...
Overclocking: No
OS: Will need to buy Win7 -_-
2nd GPU: Not sure. I'll go with no for now.
Purchase: There is a local microcenter near me, yay!

My only experience in building computers was a long, long time ago when I tried to install another hard drive back in the 90's or so (and that didn't turn out too well), so I'd really appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks!


CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 965
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0325874

Motherboard: MSI 785g-e53
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0342511
If you buy those two together you get the motherboard for $10.
$190

Graphics Card: MSI GTX 460 1gb GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125333&cm_re=gtx_460_1gb-_-14-125-333-_-Product
$230

Power Supply: OCZ ModxStream Pro 600w modular PSU
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.437125
$150

Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1tb or 500gb
1gb: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0340562
500gb: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0340804
$65 or $45

RAM: G.Skill 2x2gb DDR3 1600mhz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277
$99 - $10 promo code EMCYVNP52 = $89

Optical Drive: LITE-ON DVD/CD Burner with Lightscribe support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106333
$20

Case: Coolermaster CM 690 II Basic
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119215&cm_re=cm_690_ii-_-11-119-215-_-Product
$70

Subtotal is about $814. You can downgrade your hard drive to 500gb and save $20. You can downgrade your case and save another $20. You can salvage your old Optical drive and save another $20. You can get Windows 7 discounted to $30 if you have a college email or free if you're in a computer related major and your school supports it.
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
July 30 2010 11:20 GMT
#330
I gonna build a cheap ass desktop that can run SC2 on ultra or at least high. I mainly play 1v1 at most some team 2v2.
My budget is below $600(exclude monitor), but the lower the better,
What I am thinking to get is
CPU: Core i3-530/540 or Athlon II X4 635/640
GPU: Radeon 5770 or Radeon 4870.
For raw power I think the 4870 can performe better than the 5770 at SC2, need some clarification here.
Although about the CPU, which one should I get?
Is 2GB of RAM gonna be enough or I need 4GB?

Any input is appreciated, thanks
Terran
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
July 30 2010 11:40 GMT
#331
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-radeon-hd-geforce-gtx,2676-7.html

Graphics card hierarchy. the 4870 is more powerful. For SC2 (which is only DX9), you might not need DX11 so it's up to you, unless you want to play other games, but the 5770 isn't that powerful anyway so just get the 4870 and upgrade later. You didn't specify what resolution you want to play at though.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-core-i5-athlon-ii,2675.html

and this site recommends the X3 445, better performance for lower price since SC2 doesn't use more than 2 cores.

but in a toss up between i3 and the X4, I'd go for the one with more cores for better general purpose computing.

As for RAM, definitely 4GB. no sense sticking to 2GB now.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 11:50:12
July 30 2010 11:42 GMT
#332
5570 is more efficient and better than the 4870. The amount of extra power you'd need in your psu would probably make the cost about the same.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty-gpu-graphics-performance/6
Benches show 5770 about 10 frames better than the 4870 most of the time.

Hmm... you're in Vietnam?

Are you near a microcenter? If so, I can definitely make a cost-efficient build around $600 with a 5770, but little future proofing.
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johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
July 30 2010 11:56 GMT
#333
Vietnam has a microcentre? Cool!

And sorry about not know that 5770 gives better performance than 4870.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 30 2010 12:07 GMT
#334
No Vietnam does not have a microcenter lol. I forgot to add in parentheses to the Vietnam question, saying he's probably not in Vietnam (since it looks like he's spending USD), but I had to ask anyway.
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johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
July 30 2010 12:20 GMT
#335
In my experience for a foreign person asking for advice on a US centric forum, it's helpful to ask in USD.
You guys get a lot of good stuff for great prices, and the combo deals on newegg are making me SOOO jealous.
Which is counter-intuitive really.

I'm a Malaysian (studying in Hong Kong now) and most of the silicon is made in my country, yet you get better prices for your CPUs?

Furthermore, I'm literally IN China, where they make the rest of the stuff, and pretty close to Taiwan, home to Gigabyte and it's ilk, yet I pay up to 10% more for the same item in the US.

Annoys me to no end.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
July 30 2010 12:57 GMT
#336
Yeah, that's pretty ridiculous just like how China export iphones then import them back to sell to domestic markets ....
Rillanon.au
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 13:02:19
July 30 2010 12:59 GMT
#337
But really though Johanngrunt, you should be able to pick up cases, ram and power supplies really really cheap. There are a lot generic brands in that arena and if you know a local source, then you can probably pick something up for half the price.

example: huntkey jumper 550W is not bad for their price.

http://www.zol.com.cn/
^ My cousin in China likes to use this site.
Rillanon.au
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
July 30 2010 13:35 GMT
#338
Yeah haduken, generic brands are really really really cheap.

Case in point (oooh pun XD) Full tower cases with 4 fans and dust guard cost at most 64 USD.

And generic PSUs are a dime a dozen. Can get a 500W unit for about 20-30 USD.

But really I'm not comfortable using a generic PSU and ruin all the other expensive components in my PC. Sigh.......

The only consolation is that SOME motherboards from MSI are much cheaper.

The MSI P55GD85 (top of the range) costs only 182 USD.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
July 30 2010 13:50 GMT
#339
Thank you both R04R and johanngrunt for your inputs
I will settle with the 4870 since I think it will perform better in SC2, I dont play other games on PC since I have a PS3.
For the CPU, I've alway been an AMD fans so I'll go for the quad-core from AMD.
I'm from Vietnam but I live in Shanghai, China and its no problem buying all these parts in China. Also, I can find all these parts in Vietnam as well, there are plenty of computer shops in Vietnam, you just have to know where to look
Terran
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
July 30 2010 14:10 GMT
#340
NOOOOOO!!!!

I gave you incorrect info!!!!!
I'm sorry!!!!
If you check the link that RO4R gave, the 5770 produces an extra 6fps compared to the 4870.

Just want to check with you, are prices in Shanghai cheaper or more expensive than US e-tailers?
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