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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 30 2010 14:10 GMT
#341
But the 5770 is the better card for SC2, granted it is about $10 USD more expensive. However that can be counterbalanced by saving money on the power supply and generating less heat to the computer for a more stable experience. That is worth the $10 I believe.

Look at the graphs here for reference on 4870 and 5770 performance.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty-gpu-graphics-performance/6
ô¿ô
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
July 30 2010 14:29 GMT
#342
On July 30 2010 23:10 R04R wrote:
But the 5770 is the better card for SC2, granted it is about $10 USD more expensive. However that can be counterbalanced by saving money on the power supply and generating less heat to the computer for a more stable experience. That is worth the $10 I believe.

Look at the graphs here for reference on 4870 and 5770 performance.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty-gpu-graphics-performance/6



What he said.

and sorry again.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
July 30 2010 14:51 GMT
#343
On July 30 2010 23:10 johanngrunt wrote:
NOOOOOO!!!!

I gave you incorrect info!!!!!
I'm sorry!!!!
If you check the link that RO4R gave, the 5770 produces an extra 6fps compared to the 4870.

Just want to check with you, are prices in Shanghai cheaper or more expensive than US e-tailers?

I think they are about the same but in Shanghai if you check the price from friends or online sources you could be ripped of by people at the PC mall.
Terran
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
July 30 2010 14:53 GMT
#344
On July 30 2010 23:10 R04R wrote:
But the 5770 is the better card for SC2, granted it is about $10 USD more expensive. However that can be counterbalanced by saving money on the power supply and generating less heat to the computer for a more stable experience. That is worth the $10 I believe.

Look at the graphs here for reference on 4870 and 5770 performance.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty-gpu-graphics-performance/6

Yep, I got your point . Will get the 5770 :D
Terran
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 15:55:44
July 30 2010 15:50 GMT
#345
looking to buy a cheap computer just for sc2 and eventually d3

What is your budget?
willing to spend 500-600~
the cheaper the better, im a student so i dont have a lot of money to throw around

What is your resolution?
havent bought a monitor yet but i think itll be 1280/1024
if someone could clarify how much this matters would be appreciated

What are you using it for?
purely for gaming, i need to play sc2 on high or ultra settings
need 1v1 with max armies to not lag on bnet

What is your upgrade cycle?
umm i know next to nothing about computers so im actually hoping for somebody to recommend me a nice one on at microcenter or new egg

Do you plan on overclocking?
i have no idea what this means

Do you need an Operating System?
i think most prebuilt computers come with an operating system?

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
no idea

Where are you buying your parts from?
idk how difficult it is to learn to build a computer but really im just looking for a hassle free time to get a new desktop but there is a microcenter near where i live

thanks for the help~

edit: if its cheaper, i wouldnt mind just buying a new video card for a prebuilt machine because that seems to be much of the problem with running games at high levels

for instance i cant find any of the graphics cards recommended here on machines at newegg or microcenter (is NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE Video Chipset any good?)
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
July 30 2010 15:59 GMT
#346
On July 31 2010 00:50 Condor Hero wrote:
looking to buy a cheap computer just for sc2 and eventually d3

What is your budget?
willing to spend 500-600~
the cheaper the better, im a student so i dont have a lot of money to throw around

What is your resolution?
havent bought a monitor yet but i think itll be 1280/1024
if someone could clarify how much this matters would be appreciated

What are you using it for?
purely for gaming, i need to play sc2 on high or ultra settings
need 1v1 with max armies to not lag on bnet

What is your upgrade cycle?
umm i know next to nothing about computers so im actually hoping for somebody to recommend me a nice one on at microcenter or new egg

Do you plan on overclocking?
i have no idea what this means

Do you need an Operating System?
i think most prebuilt computers come with an operating system?

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
no idea

Where are you buying your parts from?
idk how difficult it is to learn to build a computer but really im just looking for a hassle free time to get a new desktop but there is a microcenter near where i live

thanks for the help~

edit: if its cheaper, i wouldnt mind just buying a new video card for a prebuilt machine because that seems to be much of the problem with running games at high levels

for instance i cant find any of the graphics cards recommended here on machines at newegg or microcenter (is NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE Video Chipset any good?)


Why not get a pre-built system from Dell or HP?

I saw some good deals on the Inspiron 580.

It seems ideal, and you could upgrade the video card to a GT240 and get almost no problems at 1280x1024.
Bx_Kaotik
Profile Joined July 2010
United States12 Posts
July 30 2010 16:43 GMT
#347
will this work? Will be getting the amd x4 965. Not sure if that motherboard will work with the video card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.450374
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0317925

Dohrann
Profile Joined July 2010
United States7 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 17:07:50
July 30 2010 16:50 GMT
#348
Sorry for the reposting, but I have changed and revised my previous build. Here's the new one:
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Just ignore the little things like keyboard/mice/moniter/etc.

I know this will most likely run anything I'd like it to on Ultra settings, especially if I OC (which may be something for the future). Upping my ram to 8G from 4G, using a smaller PSU, and a finding a different motherboard have let me lower the price almost $200 from my previous post. All in all I feel like $1100 for this setup (that's including keyboard/mice/HD Widescreen 21.5 Inch monitor) is a really good price. I don't really see any other places the lower the price, besides a smaller processor? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Also, is 550W enough to power all this? I would say yes, but I am not entirely sure.
"Epic!~"
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
July 30 2010 17:10 GMT
#349
Except you really haven't changed anything..
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
darkponcho
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States262 Posts
July 30 2010 17:12 GMT
#350
On July 31 2010 01:43 Bx_Kaotik wrote:
will this work? Will be getting the amd x4 965. Not sure if that motherboard will work with the video card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.450374
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0317925



Your mobo has (1) PCI Express 2.0 x16 Graphics Slot

Your card is GIGABYTE GV-N460D5-768I-B GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

So you should be good

Also if you're getting the mobo/processor from microcenter, consider getting this mobo in addition to the 965, it's only 9.99. I got the 965 BE and this mobo for a total of $200.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0342511
life
Bx_Kaotik
Profile Joined July 2010
United States12 Posts
July 30 2010 17:16 GMT
#351
yea i was gonna get that combo darkponcho but they dont have it in stock near me :-(
The only other special is x4 965 with the mobo i posted for 40 dollars off, so comes to 50.
Dohrann
Profile Joined July 2010
United States7 Posts
July 30 2010 17:35 GMT
#352
On July 31 2010 02:10 FragKrag wrote:
Except you really haven't changed anything..



mobo, psu, ram,
"Epic!~"
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
July 30 2010 17:45 GMT
#353
It still shows the same mobo/psu/ram that you had before
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Dohrann
Profile Joined July 2010
United States7 Posts
July 30 2010 17:49 GMT
#354
On July 31 2010 02:45 FragKrag wrote:
It still shows the same mobo/psu/ram that you had before


Ah, sorry, Photobucket fails at linking I guess. I'll do it this way:

Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128443
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341022 (enough Watts for everything?)
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181
Graphics Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127478
"Epic!~"
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 18:38:07
July 30 2010 18:23 GMT
#355
On July 31 2010 01:43 Bx_Kaotik wrote:
will this work? Will be getting the amd x4 965. Not sure if that motherboard will work with the video card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.450374
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0317925



I recommend getting a 1gb gtx 460 over the 768mb, especially at your resolution. 1680x1050 right? The mobo looks good for $50.

On July 31 2010 02:49 Dohrann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 02:45 FragKrag wrote:
It still shows the same mobo/psu/ram that you had before


Ah, sorry, Photobucket fails at linking I guess. I'll do it this way:

Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128443
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341022 (enough Watts for everything?)
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181
Graphics Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127478


The PSU will be able to handle it all.

8GBs of RAM? 4GB is more than enough for casual use. If you aren't doing something like video encoding it's not worth the premium.

GTS 250 for $130? (Keep in mind those rebates are fulfilled by them giving you that amount in gift cards [Visa I think]). I'd opt for a 5770 or even 460 instead with the money you save by going 4gb of RAM.

Have you tried comboing items? You can save quite a bit of money.
ô¿ô
Deux
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States159 Posts
July 30 2010 18:31 GMT
#356
On July 31 2010 03:23 R04R wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 01:43 Bx_Kaotik wrote:
will this work? Will be getting the amd x4 965. Not sure if that motherboard will work with the video card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.450374
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0317925



I recommend getting a 1gb gtx 460 over the 768mb, especially at your resolution. 1680x1050 right? The mobo looks good for $50.


Absolutely agree on the 1GB over the 768, the extra ~$30 it costs is well worth it.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
July 30 2010 18:35 GMT
#357
768MB for 1680x1050 is totally fine. No reason to go for the 1GB.

Dohrann looks good so far.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 30 2010 18:42 GMT
#358
On July 31 2010 03:35 FragKrag wrote:
768MB for 1680x1050 is totally fine. No reason to go for the 1GB.

Dohrann looks good so far.


How does the 768mb fare against late game 200/200 pop or 4v4s? I honestly haven't been paying attention to SC2. Though you could say SC2 will fix a couple bugs later on and make the game use the GPU more efficiently.
ô¿ô
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
July 30 2010 19:20 GMT
#359
On July 31 2010 00:59 johanngrunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 00:50 Condor Hero wrote:
looking to buy a cheap computer just for sc2 and eventually d3

What is your budget?
willing to spend 500-600~
the cheaper the better, im a student so i dont have a lot of money to throw around

What is your resolution?
havent bought a monitor yet but i think itll be 1280/1024
if someone could clarify how much this matters would be appreciated

What are you using it for?
purely for gaming, i need to play sc2 on high or ultra settings
need 1v1 with max armies to not lag on bnet

What is your upgrade cycle?
umm i know next to nothing about computers so im actually hoping for somebody to recommend me a nice one on at microcenter or new egg

Do you plan on overclocking?
i have no idea what this means

Do you need an Operating System?
i think most prebuilt computers come with an operating system?

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
no idea

Where are you buying your parts from?
idk how difficult it is to learn to build a computer but really im just looking for a hassle free time to get a new desktop but there is a microcenter near where i live

thanks for the help~

edit: if its cheaper, i wouldnt mind just buying a new video card for a prebuilt machine because that seems to be much of the problem with running games at high levels

for instance i cant find any of the graphics cards recommended here on machines at newegg or microcenter (is NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE Video Chipset any good?)


Why not get a pre-built system from Dell or HP?

I saw some good deals on the Inspiron 580.

It seems ideal, and you could upgrade the video card to a GT240 and get almost no problems at 1280x1024.


would this work well ?
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19158 Posts
July 30 2010 19:47 GMT
#360
Not really. Preconfigured systems come with loads of bloatware and are overpriced. Buying the parts and assembling a computer by yourself is cheaper.
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